Zinaroth wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

Ashamray wrote: »

Hope templars wont become the new sorcerers
Excelent magicka builds and horrible stamina ones.

Stam sorcs are far from being horrible.

Well compare them with magicka ones and they are.
Edit: Let's not discuss this on this thread.

Then don't bring it up. We all know Templars make the worst stamina builds in the game. You're still way better off as a stamina Sorcerer.

Hahaha and when you know the truth that once they made perfect stamina builds in 1.4 and 1.5, but they are utter useless in the current update, it's quite sad when you think.

I felt till my bones as a stamina templar that the power creep dropped down tremendously with each update after 1.5, that I don't even bother playing one atm. There is literally no reason left to play stamina as templar. Much like magicka DKs, but even they, have more class synergies with that build

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

TheNephilimCrow wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

Also, sun shield is so useless I completely forgot about it on almost every post ive made complaining about stamplars.
It shouldn't scale off of health. Most of us run around with 20k to 25k health which grants you a very low shield that can be destroyed in 2 light attacks. Also it has a very low duration but it never actually runs out because it offers so little protection. I think it should scale off of max stat and get an increased duration.

I think we found the first post I could agree with you on. I don't think skills should be scaled off max health at anytime. When there are more skills that scale from either Magicka or Stamina. They should follow suit with scaling it off of what is used to cost, like usual.

I disagree. Personally I think all mitigation should scale off health. Health needs to more than a dump stat in this game. Health should lower the cost of blocking, running, rolling, shield bashing etc as well. If they made this one change I think a lot of people wouldn't mind that Health doesn't have any special modifier. Health needs to have more purpose than the stat you need just enough of to not get one shot.

Heath would be a damn good stat if it increased defensive utility.

Basically @ZOS_GinaBruno , you guys really need to read these, all of these, not the Fengrush and Company argument things because they're streamers (which is stupid, listening to streamers only, come on now), but read the feedback from all of us.

Your game sucks atm because of your own failings, and the hardest hit right now are the guys you've hated from Day One since nobody in that lovely studio of yours could tell their arse from a hole in the ground.

So simply put, please stop sticking your head in either your butt or the sand, and simply look at us, and do what we ask of you.

After all, our dollars spent on this game pays your bills.

Freakishly so.

*** can't ever handle a holy based class not being terrible and they're entitled asses are way too used to things being easy for them that they think just because it killed then, it had to be nerfed.

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Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Still waiting on that Stamina love for Templars.

I'd hold my breath but suicide isn't my strong suit.

Lol now that everybody and their grandma want physical dmg reduction put into CP system... RIP stamplars. RIP

Zinaroth wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Basically @ZOS_GinaBruno , you guys really need to read these, all of these, not the Fengrush and Company argument things because they're streamers (which is stupid, listening to streamers only, come on now), but read the feedback from all of us.

Your game sucks atm because of your own failings, and the hardest hit right now are the guys you've hated from Day One since nobody in that lovely studio of yours could tell their arse from a hole in the ground.

So simply put, please stop sticking your head in either your butt or the sand, and simply look at us, and do what we ask of you.

After all, our dollars spent on this game pays your bills.

If ZOS would pay any attention to Fengrush, Sypher, KingRichard or LeftyLucy then Templars would recieve no love at all in the upcoming class changes. They all declared that Templars are fine on the "We are ESO" podcast. Conveniently none of them even play Templars, except Sypher who has a VR1 Stamplar which he plays half an hour on each day *** about until he gets tired of getting *** and being unable to 1vX. At which point he switches to Sorcerer or Nightblade followed by a preaching on how he doesn't see Stamplars need any buffs. The trolling is strong in these people.

I stuck out of this thread - but if you wanna paint a broad stroke with this comment itd be incorrect. Pretty sure I was one of the ones who brought up how stamplars were screwed this patch and needed help.

Magicka templar doesnt seem to be as bad as people are talking about here though - needs some skill fixes, which Id love to see... toppling going through roll dodge ? Ive had enough of that that.

Asked blabafat about his thoughts on templar - he seemed to think theyre in a pretty good position, maybe some minor issues. People coming here calling it a dead class or unable to fight are simply exaggerating or havent had someone show them how to play it yet.

People said the same thing abotu stam sorcs - if blabafat streamed youd probably see a lot less complaining of magicka templar too.

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Basically @ZOS_GinaBruno , you guys really need to read these, all of these, not the Fengrush and Company argument things because they're streamers (which is stupid, listening to streamers only, come on now), but read the feedback from all of us.

Your game sucks atm because of your own failings, and the hardest hit right now are the guys you've hated from Day One since nobody in that lovely studio of yours could tell their arse from a hole in the ground.

So simply put, please stop sticking your head in either your butt or the sand, and simply look at us, and do what we ask of you.

After all, our dollars spent on this game pays your bills.

If ZOS would pay any attention to Fengrush, Sypher, KingRichard or LeftyLucy then Templars would recieve no love at all in the upcoming class changes. They all declared that Templars are fine on the "We are ESO" podcast. Conveniently none of them even play Templars, except Sypher who has a VR1 Stamplar which he plays half an hour on each day *** about until he gets tired of getting *** and being unable to 1vX. At which point he switches to Sorcerer or Nightblade followed by a preaching on how he doesn't see Stamplars need any buffs. The trolling is strong in these people.

I stuck out of this thread - but if you wanna paint a broad stroke with this comment itd be incorrect. Pretty sure I was one of the ones who brought up how stamplars were screwed this patch and needed help.

Magicka templar doesnt seem to be as bad as people are talking about here though - needs some skill fixes, which Id love to see... toppling going through roll dodge ? Ive had enough of that that.

Asked blabafat about his thoughts on templar - he seemed to think theyre in a pretty good position, maybe some minor issues. People coming here calling it a dead class or unable to fight are simply exaggerating or havent had someone show them how to play it yet.

People said the same thing abotu stam sorcs - if blabafat streamed youd probably see a lot less complaining of magicka templar too.

Magicka Templar imo is pretty close to being balance as you said, however if they nerf BOL they will need buffs elsewhere. @Nifty2g has been making some great Magicka Templar videos and guides as well.

Mostly we need bug fixes, some passive/skill changes and Stamplar needs an overhaul.

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Basically @ZOS_GinaBruno , you guys really need to read these, all of these, not the Fengrush and Company argument things because they're streamers (which is stupid, listening to streamers only, come on now), but read the feedback from all of us.

Your game sucks atm because of your own failings, and the hardest hit right now are the guys you've hated from Day One since nobody in that lovely studio of yours could tell their arse from a hole in the ground.

So simply put, please stop sticking your head in either your butt or the sand, and simply look at us, and do what we ask of you.

After all, our dollars spent on this game pays your bills.

If ZOS would pay any attention to Fengrush, Sypher, KingRichard or LeftyLucy then Templars would recieve no love at all in the upcoming class changes. They all declared that Templars are fine on the "We are ESO" podcast. Conveniently none of them even play Templars, except Sypher who has a VR1 Stamplar which he plays half an hour on each day *** about until he gets tired of getting *** and being unable to 1vX. At which point he switches to Sorcerer or Nightblade followed by a preaching on how he doesn't see Stamplars need any buffs. The trolling is strong in these people.

I stuck out of this thread - but if you wanna paint a broad stroke with this comment itd be incorrect. Pretty sure I was one of the ones who brought up how stamplars were screwed this patch and needed help.

Magicka templar doesnt seem to be as bad as people are talking about here though - needs some skill fixes, which Id love to see... toppling going through roll dodge ? Ive had enough of that that.

Asked blabafat about his thoughts on templar - he seemed to think theyre in a pretty good position, maybe some minor issues. People coming here calling it a dead class or unable to fight are simply exaggerating or havent had someone show them how to play it yet.

People said the same thing abou stam sorcs - if blabafat streamed youd probably see a lot less complaining of magicka templar too.

The thinking behind the statement in bold is what's symptomatic of the current general idea of Templars being "just fine at the moment".

When Templar skills have been completely bugged and/or broken for so many months, Toppling/Explosive Charge being one of them, so much so that the PC Technical Support staff are now guiding customers that are Templars and whose skills suddenly fully stop working for a game breaking long time, and this is your only comment on Toppling Charge? "..toppling going through roll dodge? ive had enough of that."?

Check this out, I have to say at least I'm glad Technical Support has competence and knowledge about how broken a Templar skill, like Explosive Charge in this case, is... And it's not the only one. Passives like "Balanced" Warrior only applying a buff to Weapon Damage? The list is, as anyone who cared to read this and any of the other 20-25 threads on the matter should know, extensive and long.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2537501/#Comment_2537501

Good God, that's what it's all about - what may present anything negative to attackers of Templars is broken and must be fixed. What about the possibility of stun locking people with CC even through immunity? Had "enough of that"? Or that a player can achieve a level of damage mitigation, through shields and/or Champion Points (much skill going on there) that produces an almost invulnerable God Mode where 8 people can stand and throw whatever best DMG skills they have at him/her and the health bar barely moves? Had "enough of that" too?

The problem people seem to have is that in Cyro dmg has been halved (together with an already 50% nerfed healing, that goes for Templars too), and now a sacrificial lamb needs to be found to make it "fun" in Cyro again, ergo the lamenting calls for nerfing Templar heals and completely keeping silent about the slow, clunky, overly channeled, bugged and broken skill lines of Templars. In fact, Cyro would be Hunky Dory for all 501 CP and VR16 Legendary wearing players, if all that just didn't go for Templars too, if they could have only stayed at VR14 and ~300 CP, it would have been so much fun. Now that Templars are gaining from CP passives and Legendary VR16 sets too (who would have guessed), it is suddenly apparent they need nerfing.

God forbid the same reasoning should be applied to any form of Damage Dealers, such as Night Blades or even Stamina Sorcerers, GG no - "L2P!".

Yes, I do fairly well with my Templar too, I've had since April 2014 to adjust my gameplay as a Magicka Templar, and when we finally start doing some form of "decent" damage and actually survive more than 10 seconds thanks to heals no less, it's time to nerf Templars back to the place they need to be - easy prey for the completely Over Powered Damage Dealing/Mitigating classes.

I've had enough of that.

Nifty2g wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Basically @ZOS_GinaBruno , you guys really need to read these, all of these, not the Fengrush and Company argument things because they're streamers (which is stupid, listening to streamers only, come on now), but read the feedback from all of us.

Your game sucks atm because of your own failings, and the hardest hit right now are the guys you've hated from Day One since nobody in that lovely studio of yours could tell their arse from a hole in the ground.

So simply put, please stop sticking your head in either your butt or the sand, and simply look at us, and do what we ask of you.

After all, our dollars spent on this game pays your bills.

If ZOS would pay any attention to Fengrush, Sypher, KingRichard or LeftyLucy then Templars would recieve no love at all in the upcoming class changes. They all declared that Templars are fine on the "We are ESO" podcast. Conveniently none of them even play Templars, except Sypher who has a VR1 Stamplar which he plays half an hour on each day *** about until he gets tired of getting *** and being unable to 1vX. At which point he switches to Sorcerer or Nightblade followed by a preaching on how he doesn't see Stamplars need any buffs. The trolling is strong in these people.

I stuck out of this thread - but if you wanna paint a broad stroke with this comment itd be incorrect. Pretty sure I was one of the ones who brought up how stamplars were screwed this patch and needed help.

Magicka templar doesnt seem to be as bad as people are talking about here though - needs some skill fixes, which Id love to see... toppling going through roll dodge ? Ive had enough of that that.

Asked blabafat about his thoughts on templar - he seemed to think theyre in a pretty good position, maybe some minor issues. People coming here calling it a dead class or unable to fight are simply exaggerating or havent had someone show them how to play it yet.

People said the same thing abotu stam sorcs - if blabafat streamed youd probably see a lot less complaining of magicka templar too.

I guess people just hate the cone Sweep has and start to get bitter with the class but it's true it's really not a weak class when you gear it up right and play it how it's meant to be played. The only issue I have is lack of current mobility which I believe should have been a priority fix because it has deeply hurt the class. In a group however having a Templar that focuses on DPS and any others healing is extremely strong lol, but that's just my thoughts.

PvE wise Templars are pretty strong with some of the changes I mentioned will probably bring the class up with others.

I can almost guarantee people who say it's weak are those with an interesting gear set up, but when I do say this I do still believe the class needs some fixes to make it on a competitive level without being changed into the most OP thing like people want.

The most important thing to change about Templars is all the things that are broken and bugged, from there an overhaul of passives to actually have some form of synergy with the class. None of this would produce any form of OP Templar class, unless not having your skill bars lock up for minutes after using a skill is considered OP. I don't think, and hope, that no one is wishing for changes that would make Templars OP. I agree.

OP is something exclusively reserved for other classes as it is, we don't need yet another one.

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

The inherent problems with that line of thought, especially "Templars are fine PvE wise" is that there are a whopping three builds you can be "fine" with. One with a very specific set of gear (VR16 *** isn't easy to get, even now. Annoying as hell really) meant for being a caster and spamming sweeps, and the same set, exact same, being your healing set. The other is a tank build.

Stamina Templars have zero love right now, none, at least when compared to Magicka builds and anything Nightblade.

I don't know how people can't see that.

I've been pointing out how boned Stamina Templar is for what feels like forever. I def feel though that Magicka Templar does need changes, just less changes that Stamina.

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

I said people, not a person. A person can be intelligent and think for themselves. People on the other hand, not so much.

That's actually pretty funny

Zinaroth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Basically @ZOS_GinaBruno , you guys really need to read these, all of these, not the Fengrush and Company argument things because they're streamers (which is stupid, listening to streamers only, come on now), but read the feedback from all of us.

Your game sucks atm because of your own failings, and the hardest hit right now are the guys you've hated from Day One since nobody in that lovely studio of yours could tell their arse from a hole in the ground.

So simply put, please stop sticking your head in either your butt or the sand, and simply look at us, and do what we ask of you.

After all, our dollars spent on this game pays your bills.

If ZOS would pay any attention to Fengrush, Sypher, KingRichard or LeftyLucy then Templars would recieve no love at all in the upcoming class changes. They all declared that Templars are fine on the "We are ESO" podcast. Conveniently none of them even play Templars, except Sypher who has a VR1 Stamplar which he plays half an hour on each day *** about until he gets tired of getting *** and being unable to 1vX. At which point he switches to Sorcerer or Nightblade followed by a preaching on how he doesn't see Stamplars need any buffs. The trolling is strong in these people.

I stuck out of this thread - but if you wanna paint a broad stroke with this comment itd be incorrect. Pretty sure I was one of the ones who brought up how stamplars were screwed this patch and needed help.

Magicka templar doesnt seem to be as bad as people are talking about here though - needs some skill fixes, which Id love to see... toppling going through roll dodge ? Ive had enough of that that.

Asked blabafat about his thoughts on templar - he seemed to think theyre in a pretty good position, maybe some minor issues. People coming here calling it a dead class or unable to fight are simply exaggerating or havent had someone show them how to play it yet.

People said the same thing abotu stam sorcs - if blabafat streamed youd probably see a lot less complaining of magicka templar too.

Blabafat plays magicka templar. I am talking about stamina templars. They're in completely different leagues. I don't recall you ever standing up for stamplars but cool if you did. I agree that magicka templars are in a decent spot, but stamina templars are not. If blabafat or Sypher thinks stamina templars are fine then they would be wrong. Simple as that.

Yes I had posted a few times about stamplar - the 2 people Ive spent a majority of my time grouped with the past few months are a stamplar and a magicka templar. The stamplar got slammed this last patch - jabs just isnt what it was, and it was really the forefront of the class.

Im not here to fight with people on anything, someone tagged me in a post and Im making a response. I can relate to neglect in the stam sorc category.

Soris wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Basically @ZOS_GinaBruno , you guys really need to read these, all of these, not the Fengrush and Company argument things because they're streamers (which is stupid, listening to streamers only, come on now), but read the feedback from all of us.

Your game sucks atm because of your own failings, and the hardest hit right now are the guys you've hated from Day One since nobody in that lovely studio of yours could tell their arse from a hole in the ground.

So simply put, please stop sticking your head in either your butt or the sand, and simply look at us, and do what we ask of you.

After all, our dollars spent on this game pays your bills.

If ZOS would pay any attention to Fengrush, Sypher, KingRichard or LeftyLucy then Templars would recieve no love at all in the upcoming class changes. They all declared that Templars are fine on the "We are ESO" podcast. Conveniently none of them even play Templars, except Sypher who has a VR1 Stamplar which he plays half an hour on each day *** about until he gets tired of getting *** and being unable to 1vX. At which point he switches to Sorcerer or Nightblade followed by a preaching on how he doesn't see Stamplars need any buffs. The trolling is strong in these people.

I stuck out of this thread - but if you wanna paint a broad stroke with this comment itd be incorrect. Pretty sure I was one of the ones who brought up how stamplars were screwed this patch and needed help.

Magicka templar doesnt seem to be as bad as people are talking about here though - needs some skill fixes, which Id love to see... toppling going through roll dodge ? Ive had enough of that that.

Asked blabafat about his thoughts on templar - he seemed to think theyre in a pretty good position, maybe some minor issues. People coming here calling it a dead class or unable to fight are simply exaggerating or havent had someone show them how to play it yet.

People said the same thing abotu stam sorcs - if blabafat streamed youd probably see a lot less complaining of magicka templar too.

I'm quite sure blablafat said that the macika templars are the definition of the term "balanced". Also he/she added that the other classes are way ahead of this term.

Which is 100% true. Magicka templars are not bad, it's just other classes are little bit better. Magicka sorcs for example...You don't have to be expert to spot the differences between these 2.

Other particular classes are ahead - magicka sorc, both NBs come to mind. After that, stam DK is pretty great for what it does and what it is capable of, it lacks mobility a bit but as a stam its not terrible lack of mobility. Magicka DK, stam sorc, other templars - they are outside the equation. Stam DK is pretty good, could use more morphs/skills just like stamplar/stamsorc, the thing that separates them is an instant physical ult that scales (the only one). But it is not like a magicka sorc or either NBs, and NBs are above magicka sorc too.

Theres a lot of changes coming, and frankly, the decisions are already made as far as Im concerned. ZOS doesnt communicate well or take in feedback, only bits and pieces and you can only hope it translates into something useful. In my case, fighting for stam sorc for months, they gave us a morph that no stam/magicka sorc would ever use in the game for lighting armor (because it lasts half as long, and drains stam, and does less damage than caltrops). And of course they wont revisit said change until next major patch.

This game needs a combat/mechanics team heavily in touch with the game and player base that have a firm understanding of classes capabilities and group play. It hurts bad to watch it all unfold.

Jura23 wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Basically @ZOS_GinaBruno , you guys really need to read these, all of these, not the Fengrush and Company argument things because they're streamers (which is stupid, listening to streamers only, come on now), but read the feedback from all of us.

Your game sucks atm because of your own failings, and the hardest hit right now are the guys you've hated from Day One since nobody in that lovely studio of yours could tell their arse from a hole in the ground.

So simply put, please stop sticking your head in either your butt or the sand, and simply look at us, and do what we ask of you.

After all, our dollars spent on this game pays your bills.

If ZOS would pay any attention to Fengrush, Sypher, KingRichard or LeftyLucy then Templars would recieve no love at all in the upcoming class changes. They all declared that Templars are fine on the "We are ESO" podcast. Conveniently none of them even play Templars, except Sypher who has a VR1 Stamplar which he plays half an hour on each day *** about until he gets tired of getting *** and being unable to 1vX. At which point he switches to Sorcerer or Nightblade followed by a preaching on how he doesn't see Stamplars need any buffs. The trolling is strong in these people.

I stuck out of this thread - but if you wanna paint a broad stroke with this comment itd be incorrect. Pretty sure I was one of the ones who brought up how stamplars were screwed this patch and needed help.

Magicka templar doesnt seem to be as bad as people are talking about here though - needs some skill fixes, which Id love to see... toppling going through roll dodge ? Ive had enough of that that.

Asked blabafat about his thoughts on templar - he seemed to think theyre in a pretty good position, maybe some minor issues. People coming here calling it a dead class or unable to fight are simply exaggerating or havent had someone show them how to play it yet.

People said the same thing abotu stam sorcs - if blabafat streamed youd probably see a lot less complaining of magicka templar too.

Blabafat plays magicka templar. I am talking about stamina templars. They're in completely different leagues. I don't recall you ever standing up for stamplars but cool if you did. I agree that magicka templars are in a decent spot, but stamina templars are not. If blabafat or Sypher thinks stamina templars are fine then they would be wrong. Simple as that.

Yes I had posted a few times about stamplar - the 2 people Ive spent a majority of my time grouped with the past few months are a stamplar and a magicka templar. The stamplar got slammed this last patch - jabs just isnt what it was, and it was really the forefront of the class.

Im not here to fight with people on anything, someone tagged me in a post and Im making a response. I can relate to neglect in the stam sorc category.

Soris wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Basically @ZOS_GinaBruno , you guys really need to read these, all of these, not the Fengrush and Company argument things because they're streamers (which is stupid, listening to streamers only, come on now), but read the feedback from all of us.

Your game sucks atm because of your own failings, and the hardest hit right now are the guys you've hated from Day One since nobody in that lovely studio of yours could tell their arse from a hole in the ground.

So simply put, please stop sticking your head in either your butt or the sand, and simply look at us, and do what we ask of you.

After all, our dollars spent on this game pays your bills.

If ZOS would pay any attention to Fengrush, Sypher, KingRichard or LeftyLucy then Templars would recieve no love at all in the upcoming class changes. They all declared that Templars are fine on the "We are ESO" podcast. Conveniently none of them even play Templars, except Sypher who has a VR1 Stamplar which he plays half an hour on each day *** about until he gets tired of getting *** and being unable to 1vX. At which point he switches to Sorcerer or Nightblade followed by a preaching on how he doesn't see Stamplars need any buffs. The trolling is strong in these people.

I stuck out of this thread - but if you wanna paint a broad stroke with this comment itd be incorrect. Pretty sure I was one of the ones who brought up how stamplars were screwed this patch and needed help.

Magicka templar doesnt seem to be as bad as people are talking about here though - needs some skill fixes, which Id love to see... toppling going through roll dodge ? Ive had enough of that that.

Asked blabafat about his thoughts on templar - he seemed to think theyre in a pretty good position, maybe some minor issues. People coming here calling it a dead class or unable to fight are simply exaggerating or havent had someone show them how to play it yet.

People said the same thing abotu stam sorcs - if blabafat streamed youd probably see a lot less complaining of magicka templar too.

I'm quite sure blablafat said that the macika templars are the definition of the term "balanced". Also he/she added that the other classes are way ahead of this term.

Which is 100% true. Magicka templars are not bad, it's just other classes are little bit better. Magicka sorcs for example...You don't have to be expert to spot the differences between these 2.

Other particular classes are ahead - magicka sorc, both NBs come to mind. After that, stam DK is pretty great for what it does and what it is capable of, it lacks mobility a bit but as a stam its not terrible lack of mobility. Magicka DK, stam sorc, other templars - they are outside the equation. Stam DK is pretty good, could use more morphs/skills just like stamplar/stamsorc, the thing that separates them is an instant physical ult that scales (the only one). But it is not like a magicka sorc or either NBs, and NBs are above magicka sorc too.

Theres a lot of changes coming, and frankly, the decisions are already made as far as Im concerned. ZOS doesnt communicate well or take in feedback, only bits and pieces and you can only hope it translates into something useful. In my case, fighting for stam sorc for months, they gave us a morph that no stam/magicka sorc would ever use in the game for lighting armor (because it lasts half as long, and drains stam, and does less damage than caltrops). And of course they wont revisit said change until next major patch.

This game needs a combat/mechanics team heavily in touch with the game and player base that have a firm understanding of classes capabilities and group play. It hurts bad to watch it all unfold.

Do you plan to write something into latest Wrobel thread?

He isnt replying on any replies/threads so no I dont plan on it.

FENGRUSH wrote: »

This game needs a combat/mechanics team heavily in touch with the game and player base that have a firm understanding of classes capabilities and group play. It hurts bad to watch it all unfold.

I fully agree with this statement, not the least a player base that, if it's going to try to set the tone of classes, at minimum has any kind of comprehension of what they're talking about. Such as when talking about "Magicka templar doesnt seem to be as bad as people are talking about here though - needs some skill fixes, which Id love to see... toppling going through roll dodge ? Ive had enough of that."

They would at least know that usually Magicka Templars use Explosive Charge and Stamina Templars use Toppling Charge.

Here I agree with you in full.

It hurts bad.