One Shot Silver Shard | Camo Hunter Completely BROKEN in PVP
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Sav72✭✭✭✭✭
Your a FN idiot.
Savoifair, EP NB
If you break something, you can glue it back together and fix it, but, it will always be broken...1 -
NovaShadow✭✭✭✭✭I've been hit for 15k one shot and I wasn't even a vamp/ww. It is beyond broken but don't expect that to change.PC NA - EPHS1 -
Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
✭No offense but Gina doesn't know wtf she's talking about I know how many shots are hitting me and the number is one. I'm pretty damned aware of my surroundings and what's hitting me. Every other month these skills are broken and it's ridiculous.
this game, and most MMOs, are not balanced around PvP....the minority.
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SirDopey✭✭✭✭✭
✭NovaShadow wrote: »I've been hit for 15k one shot and I wasn't even a vamp/ww. It is beyond broken but don't expect that to change.
15K one shot?!? So you only have 15K health? Or, you had a UI error that only showed the 15k damage???
If you were indeed one shot for 15K, well that's what you get for running around cyro with only 15K health, maybe turn some of that glass into steel on ya cannon....NA PC | AD
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I didn't die from camohunter for the 6 months I was a vamp as much as from macros that are programmed to animation cancel faster than is humanly possible.- Walk with virtue, friend.0 -
StihlReign✭✭✭✭✭Hhhhmm.....
Looks like spending 64 points is stam with all Robust jewelry doesn't really cut it anymore, right ?
Why not?You can't have your cake and eat it, too. You chose vamp for the pro's to your build - now deal with the consequences.
The consequences are not functioning as intended. Do you understand that? Or are you too narrow minded to accept that the fighters guild skills are broken? It's not rocket science read old patch notes those skills are broken every other update.
Oh, you mean where Gina said it's working as intended?No offense but Gina doesn't know wtf she's talking about I know how many shots are hitting me and the number is one. I'm pretty damned aware of my surroundings and what's hitting me. Every other month these skills are broken and it's ridiculous.
You're not getting "1-shotted". You're getting killed very fast by 2 or 3 attacks. You know how to fix it? Cure your vampirism and the chance of it happening again is very slim.
No i'm getting one shotted. Now that I understand what's happening i can repeat it. I don't see why anyone doubts i can tell how many arrows flew my way but off my tooltip i can do 18k with a snipe, 11k with the guaranteed stealth dmg and a potential 7.7k proc that's more than enough to one shot. That's providing my snipe crits
Use NB Cloak. 100% Crit."O divine art of subtlety and secrecy!
Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible; and hence we can hold the enemy’s fate in our hands.” – Ch. VI, v. 8-9. — Master Sun Tzu
"You haven't beaten me you've sacrificed sure footing for a killing stroke." — Ra's al Ghul
He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious — Master Sun Tzu
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✭starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »Leave it as it is. Silver shards and Camo-hunter is one of the best anti-daedra skills PvE'er have. PvP vamps just need to learn to adapt.
I never got that beyond the Roleplay purpose. I get that the fighters guild was always an anti deadra thing but are undead and deadra supposed to be stronger than the rest of the mobs? Why are they getting stomped by this, it makes no sense at all from a balance perspective.When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
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NovaShadow✭✭✭✭✭NovaShadow wrote: »I've been hit for 15k one shot and I wasn't even a vamp/ww. It is beyond broken but don't expect that to change.
15K one shot?!? So you only have 15K health? Or, you had a UI error that only showed the 15k damage???
If you were indeed one shot for 15K, well that's what you get for running around cyro with only 15K health, maybe turn some of that glass into steel on ya cannon....
I had about 22k health. 15k one shot was the 15k proc (literally showed as 15 something k on my recap) alongside a snipe I believe it was. The 15k made me pause, it shouldn't proc so high in 1 hit on a non-vamp/ww.PC NA - EPHS0 -
SirDopey✭✭✭✭✭
✭NovaShadow wrote: »NovaShadow wrote: »I've been hit for 15k one shot and I wasn't even a vamp/ww. It is beyond broken but don't expect that to change.
15K one shot?!? So you only have 15K health? Or, you had a UI error that only showed the 15k damage???
If you were indeed one shot for 15K, well that's what you get for running around cyro with only 15K health, maybe turn some of that glass into steel on ya cannon....
I had about 22k health. 15k one shot was the 15k proc (literally showed as 15 something k on my recap) alongside a snipe I believe it was. The 15k made me pause, it shouldn't proc so high in 1 hit on a non-vamp/ww.
Hmmm, it can, you may have just got unlucky. You'll find you proc'd the 4% chance for non undead and that it also hit critically, given that people are building some strong synergies between the CP's and Shadow mundus its more than plausible that it was a legit hit, just unlucky the numbers went against you. If this happened two or three times in a row, then yeah I'd be raising an eye browNA PC | AD
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Aoife32001✭✭✭✭Dalsinthus wrote: »I've gone back and forth between having vampirism and curing it because I do get killed instantly by players specifically built to kill vampires.
This.
I will preface this by saying I think one-shots on anyone should be quite rare in PvP, and any skill or skill combination that has "guaranteed" or frequent one-shotting should be reexamined.
That being said... I run a build specifically designed to kill vampires. I have to sacrifice in other areas to do so. This is how a game is supposed to work. I in turn should get steam-rolled by players who are built to exploit my own weaknesses. I've also been one-shot in Cyrodiil, and I just deal with it when it is to something ZOS says is working as intended.
All too often it seems like these posts are typically either (1) "I can't kill him with ease so he must be nerfed" or (2) "he killed me with ease so he must be nerfed." You can't negate (1) without falling prey to (2).Edited by Aoife32001 on December 18, 2015 5:02AM0 -
Zinaroth✭✭✭✭✭
✭These are not one shots. It's just a series of abilities fired off in such rapid succession that it feels like a one shot. The death recaps do not lie, the silver shard isn't one shotting, stop spreading misinformation. Let me enlighten you:
DK
Bow
Molten Armaments
Camouflaged Hunter
Charged heavy attack from stealth
Silver Shard > light attack > Silver Shard
Vamp dead in less than two seconds.
nice one lol
Okay, again:
Camo is supposed to hit hard
Death Recap bugs out and sometimes only shows Camo hit
Death Recap sometimes sums up dmg from different skill into 1 skill
Death Recap sucks
Camohunter is working as intended
Sneak Mechanic is broken and that is why you mostly get oneshot.
oh and before I forget it like in all other threads: l2p
I was referring to the fact that OP is stating that Silver Shards says 6k in death recap but he insists on it being a one shot, that is not the case.
The death recap does not lie, but sometimes it isn't telling the whole truth.
Both me and Alcast's statements are the true though.0 -
StihlReign✭✭✭✭✭Aoife32001 wrote: »Dalsinthus wrote: »
All too often it seems like these posts are typically either (1) "I can't kill him with ease so he must be nerfed" or (2) "he killed me with ease so he must be nerfed." You can't negate (1) without falling prey to (2).
You have a valid point. That's not what this is."O divine art of subtlety and secrecy!
Through you we learn to be invisible, through you inaudible; and hence we can hold the enemy’s fate in our hands.” – Ch. VI, v. 8-9. — Master Sun Tzu
"You haven't beaten me you've sacrificed sure footing for a killing stroke." — Ra's al Ghul
He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious — Master Sun Tzu
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Greiver✭✭✭Lately this whole game is broke. Not just certain skills. And it still surprises people. We paid for a beta and are playing a beta. Simple enough. Zenimax doesn't have a clue what they are doing. If they did, half the broken crap in this game wouldn't keep coming back everyother patch.Edited by Greiver on December 19, 2015 11:29PMPs4 Na Daggerfall
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Lenikus✭✭✭✭✭NovaShadow wrote: »I've been hit for 15k one shot and I wasn't even a vamp/ww. It is beyond broken but don't expect that to change.
Expert hunter and it's morphs (Camouflaged Hunter and Evil hunter) all have a chance to proc on normal targets (ie, non vampires and non undead and non ww). The chances are 8% chance of any hit in any daedric mark, or 5% in any normal target. The damage of this skill is the same, it only chances the likeability of the target being actually hit.*Only Dawnbreaker gives an extra damage based on a % of the base damage. all other skills grant against daedra an aditional proc.*
Thing is, Evil Hunter gives you a certain amount of stamina each proc, and Camo hunter makes that 8% in daedric targets a Certain 100% if you are stealthed. But ALL of them still can hurt you even if you are a normal person. lel... Mai cave. >:30 -
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✭StihlReign wrote: »The skill line is broken. There is no way to block or defend.
I refuse to use the skill line because of how broken it is.
20K+ unblockable damage is excessive.
Mistform bruh. 75% dmg mitigation.1 -
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"How do you suggest a vamp adapts?"How do you suggest a vamp adapts? Just accept one shots with no time to react? The skills are broken and not functioning properly if i have 28k health and die to one shot camo hunter.
Not stand around like the cattle they feed on waiting to get hit by it.
Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on December 20, 2015 3:50PM0 -
ScruffyWhiskers✭✭✭✭✭The dual wield heavy attacks are pretty funny. I have a few AD "friends" who are always trying to hit me hoping to get the double proc.0 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭Well, it wont get changed since it synergises so well with gankers (aka nightblades) So all you'll get are responsed like ''It's fine'' ''l2p''
*** keep thinking 30k dmg from stealth is balanced and also think it takes skill to pull off.0 -
Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭message to everyone arguing that vamps should learn to play better vs camo hunter etc..etc..etc... I must confess something...
There is a way to make camo hunter proc or EVERY damage output you make.
That is, for example:
- Dual wield heavy attack - proc twice one for each weapon. Got a damage enchant on weapons? procs off that too. Make it 4 procs.
- Proc on multiple (every) tics of Jabs.
- so on you get the idea
Oh and sometimes it does that on you if you are NOT vamp.
And ALSO, evil hunter (blue morph) does NOT do that, nor procs as often.
Therefore, skill is broken.Edited by Kupoking on December 20, 2015 5:57PM1
