DannyLV702 wrote: »

Personally, I believe they really suck. Only stamina NBs give me problems. My encounters with magic NBs is that they either run or die

Don't you've seen a good one then with 7k concealed and 10k+ proxy :P

Yeah they are good. Spam funnel health and concealed weapon. Then cloak+healing ward if they drop your health and come back and do it again. Refreshing path, shadow image, mass hysteria. All fun to play with. Go vamp for more mobility and batswarm then magika det later on will just be for busting groups.

I use it only occassionally, prefer to not have it tbh.

WTB proxy det. Will trade for undaunted 9.

They're definitely viable. My proxy det build I use is more of a novelty than anything. It has really high burst damage and I personally just think it's funny to jump into a group of 3 or 4 and drop them all instantly but if they don't die my survivability goes way down. My survivability is much higher with my destro build where I can be at range and keep them rooted and spam heavy attacks and swallow soul from stealth. The heavy attack weaving really boosts my resource recovery and I hardly ever run out of magicka. With my prox det build I have 4k+ spell damage but my recovery is awful and you have to pray for siphoning attack proc's. The burst damage isn't insta-kill like my prox det build but people still die pretty fast. Obviously, if you're not playing the meta stam NB build you're not playing the game correctly, but I still enjoy my magicka NB very much. One thing that really boosted my burst damage is taking advantage of those heavy/medium attack weaves with the proc'd merciless resolve. A heavy attack + lotus fan + fear + merciless resolve + soul harvest and concealed spam is pretty good burst.