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  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.
  • Elebeth
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    Alright, from the words of the Loremaster himself https://youtu.be/JOAkXVXiI6U?t=346
    And I'm sure that the similar answer would be in this "dragon" discussion :p
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  • Alec508
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    NetoJON wrote: »
    Alec508 wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Alec508 wrote: »
    People would rather read the lore books and find ways to prove that something is "lore breaking" then just playing the game and having fun. They act as if its a real world and if you break the lore in any little way it will sucks everyone into a black hole. Its hilarious. Though 90% of the people who I play with who are on the leaderboards either don't care about lore or have no idea what lore is . If you add dragons to an eso game it wont be that big of a deal. Its like your asking for pink unicorns that spit fire.

    I have mixed feelings about you

    Lol whys that

    you said dragons are like pink unicorns =.(

    No I said people are acting like you are asking for a pink unicorn that spits flames. THATS lore breaking, adding a known race to the game a few eras before they were around is not. And no one cares about "the lore master" ^ lmao
  • NetoJON
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    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.

    you have the wrong idea about immortality... it's totally possible for a dragon to be BORN... grow up, and stay immortal... how do you think dragons were brought into existence?
  • Elebeth
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    Alec508 wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Alec508 wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Alec508 wrote: »
    People would rather read the lore books and find ways to prove that something is "lore breaking" then just playing the game and having fun. They act as if its a real world and if you break the lore in any little way it will sucks everyone into a black hole. Its hilarious. Though 90% of the people who I play with who are on the leaderboards either don't care about lore or have no idea what lore is . If you add dragons to an eso game it wont be that big of a deal. Its like your asking for pink unicorns that spit fire.

    I have mixed feelings about you

    Lol whys that

    you said dragons are like pink unicorns =.(

    No I said people are acting like you are asking for a pink unicorn that spits flames. THATS lore breaking, adding a known race to the game a few eras before they were around is not. And no one cares about "the lore master" ^ lmao

    Well you obviously don't care about the lore so it's only appropriate that you don't care about the Loremaster. Fine by me but tell me, why are you commenting in this "lore" thread then?
    Edited by Elebeth on December 17, 2015 5:51PM
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    Alec508 wrote: »
    People would rather read the lore books and find ways to prove that something is "lore breaking" then just playing the game and having fun. They act as if its a real world and if you break the lore in any little way it will sucks everyone into a black hole. Its hilarious. Though 90% of the people who I play with who are on the leaderboards either don't care about lore or have no idea what lore is . If you add dragons to an eso game it wont be that big of a deal. Its like your asking for pink unicorns that spit fire.

    this so much this. its a game I get it you like lore but come on if lore breaks your life wont end and you would still play lets face it if you spend that much time to read the lore you wont leave even if it is broken lol
  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    NetoJON wrote: »
    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.

    you have the wrong idea about immortality... it's totally possible for a dragon to be BORN... grow up, and stay immortal... how do you think dragons were brought into existence?
    You don't know anything about ES lore do you? Dragons were not born they simply appeared into existence with the other Aedra, did you know dragons are Aedra? just like a Dremora is a Daedra, Dremora aren't born and neither are the Dragons. they are all figments of an Aedric God known as Aka.

    Akatosh, Auriel, Alduin, the LDB, Miraak, Tiber Septim, Wullhearth of Atmora are also all figments of Aka and Aka is the manifestation of time itself taken flesh.

    The only Dragons who are born are those in a mortal body such as the Dragonborn.

    Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on December 17, 2015 5:59PM
  • Alec508
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    Elebeth wrote: »
    Alec508 wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Alec508 wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Alec508 wrote: »
    People would rather read the lore books and find ways to prove that something is "lore breaking" then just playing the game and having fun. They act as if its a real world and if you break the lore in any little way it will sucks everyone into a black hole. Its hilarious. Though 90% of the people who I play with who are on the leaderboards either don't care about lore or have no idea what lore is . If you add dragons to an eso game it wont be that big of a deal. Its like your asking for pink unicorns that spit fire.

    I have mixed feelings about you

    Lol whys that

    you said dragons are like pink unicorns =.(

    No I said people are acting like you are asking for a pink unicorn that spits flames. THATS lore breaking, adding a known race to the game a few eras before they were around is not. And no one cares about "the lore master" ^ lmao

    Well you obviously don't care about the lore so it's only appropriate that you don't care about the Loremaster. Fine by me but tell me, why are you commenting in this "lore" thread then?

    Im not. Im commenting on a dragon thread. You're the one bringing lore into this.
  • Alec508
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    NetoJON wrote: »
    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.

    you have the wrong idea about immortality... it's totally possible for a dragon to be BORN... grow up, and stay immortal... how do you think dragons were brought into existence?
    You don't know anything about ES lore do you? Dragons were not born they simply appeared into existence with the other Aedra, did you know dragons are Aedra? just like a Dremora is a Daedra, Dremora aren't born and neither are the Dragons. they are all figments of a God known as Aka.

    They just appeared ? Where did they appear from? Please tell me more. Lore god
  • Elebeth
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    Alec508 wrote: »
    Elebeth wrote: »
    Alec508 wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Alec508 wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Alec508 wrote: »
    People would rather read the lore books and find ways to prove that something is "lore breaking" then just playing the game and having fun. They act as if its a real world and if you break the lore in any little way it will sucks everyone into a black hole. Its hilarious. Though 90% of the people who I play with who are on the leaderboards either don't care about lore or have no idea what lore is . If you add dragons to an eso game it wont be that big of a deal. Its like your asking for pink unicorns that spit fire.

    I have mixed feelings about you

    Lol whys that

    you said dragons are like pink unicorns =.(

    No I said people are acting like you are asking for a pink unicorn that spits flames. THATS lore breaking, adding a known race to the game a few eras before they were around is not. And no one cares about "the lore master" ^ lmao

    Well you obviously don't care about the lore so it's only appropriate that you don't care about the Loremaster. Fine by me but tell me, why are you commenting in this "lore" thread then?

    Im not. Im commenting on a dragon thread. You're the one bringing lore into this.

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    Edited by Elebeth on December 17, 2015 6:04PM
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  • AngryNord
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    NetoJON wrote: »
    Ok.. we have bears and imperials... can we have DRAGONS now? Pls?

    No
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    No dragons is a huge bummer. What made skyrim awesome was that it was dragon-on-mountain-fight-simulator.
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  • NetoJON
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    NetoJON wrote: »
    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.

    you have the wrong idea about immortality... it's totally possible for a dragon to be BORN... grow up, and stay immortal... how do you think dragons were brought into existence?
    You don't know anything about ES lore do you? Dragons were not born they simply appeared into existence with the other Aedra, did you know dragons are Aedra? just like a Dremora is a Daedra, Dremora aren't born and neither are the Dragons. they are all figments of an Aedric God known as Aka< Akatosh, Auriel, Alduin, the LDB, Miraak, Tiber Septim, Wullhearth of Atmora are also all figments of Aka.

    Shame on you to try to use the lore against me... shame on you...
    Read this http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)
    Now there is one thing for sure... NO ONE KNOWS WERE THEY CAME FROM... that is an open spot for baby dragons! While there is no proof about their origins, there is no one that can say there isn't dragon eggs!

    NEXT
    Edited by NetoJON on December 17, 2015 6:02PM
  • RAGUNAnoOne
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    Can we get an Akavir DLC and have the Tiger Dragon as one of the main quest givers?
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  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    NetoJON wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.

    you have the wrong idea about immortality... it's totally possible for a dragon to be BORN... grow up, and stay immortal... how do you think dragons were brought into existence?
    You don't know anything about ES lore do you? Dragons were not born they simply appeared into existence with the other Aedra, did you know dragons are Aedra? just like a Dremora is a Daedra, Dremora aren't born and neither are the Dragons. they are all figments of an Aedric God known as Aka< Akatosh, Auriel, Alduin, the LDB, Miraak, Tiber Septim, Wullhearth of Atmora are also all figments of Aka.

    Shame on you to try to use the lore against me... shame on you...
    Read this http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)
    Now there is one thing for sure... NO ONE KNOWS WERE THEY CAME FROM... that is a open spot for baby dragons!

    NEXT
    Go ask Michael Kirkbride, he hangs over on Reddit, he created a lot of ES lore around the time of Morrowind back in 02 before he ragequit, also that wiki is fanmade by people who know virtually nothing of ES lore, If I wanted to I could change it myself to something completly irrelevant.
    Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on December 17, 2015 6:03PM
  • NetoJON
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    NetoJON wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.

    you have the wrong idea about immortality... it's totally possible for a dragon to be BORN... grow up, and stay immortal... how do you think dragons were brought into existence?
    You don't know anything about ES lore do you? Dragons were not born they simply appeared into existence with the other Aedra, did you know dragons are Aedra? just like a Dremora is a Daedra, Dremora aren't born and neither are the Dragons. they are all figments of an Aedric God known as Aka< Akatosh, Auriel, Alduin, the LDB, Miraak, Tiber Septim, Wullhearth of Atmora are also all figments of Aka.

    Shame on you to try to use the lore against me... shame on you...
    Read this http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)
    Now there is one thing for sure... NO ONE KNOWS WERE THEY CAME FROM... that is a open spot for baby dragons!

    NEXT
    Go ask Michael Kirkbride, he hangs over on Reddit, he created a lot of ES lore around the time of Morrowind back in 02 before he ragequit, also that wiki is fanmade by people who know virtually nothing of ES lore, If I wanted to I could change it myself to something completly irrelevant.

    no need.. I read the lore... its that simple...
  • Elebeth
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    NetoJON wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.

    you have the wrong idea about immortality... it's totally possible for a dragon to be BORN... grow up, and stay immortal... how do you think dragons were brought into existence?
    You don't know anything about ES lore do you? Dragons were not born they simply appeared into existence with the other Aedra, did you know dragons are Aedra? just like a Dremora is a Daedra, Dremora aren't born and neither are the Dragons. they are all figments of an Aedric God known as Aka< Akatosh, Auriel, Alduin, the LDB, Miraak, Tiber Septim, Wullhearth of Atmora are also all figments of Aka.

    Shame on you to try to use the lore against me... shame on you...
    Read this http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)
    Now there is one thing for sure... NO ONE KNOWS WERE THEY CAME FROM... that is an open spot for baby dragons! While there is no proof about their origins, there is no one that can say there isn't dragon eggs!

    NEXT

    Ugh, wikia!
    There you go http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons
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  • Alec508
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    NetoJON wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.

    you have the wrong idea about immortality... it's totally possible for a dragon to be BORN... grow up, and stay immortal... how do you think dragons were brought into existence?
    You don't know anything about ES lore do you? Dragons were not born they simply appeared into existence with the other Aedra, did you know dragons are Aedra? just like a Dremora is a Daedra, Dremora aren't born and neither are the Dragons. they are all figments of an Aedric God known as Aka< Akatosh, Auriel, Alduin, the LDB, Miraak, Tiber Septim, Wullhearth of Atmora are also all figments of Aka.

    Shame on you to try to use the lore against me... shame on you...
    Read this http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)
    Now there is one thing for sure... NO ONE KNOWS WERE THEY CAME FROM... that is a open spot for baby dragons!

    NEXT

    Don't waste your time on these fools, they will talk to you like you are a biggot because they know more about the games universe then we do. I don't WANT dragons but I also don't NOT WANT dragons. I just don't care. If there was dlc that had dragons in it , sure id play and kill some damn dragons but I sure as hell wouldn't make a little 10 year old QQ rant about how its LORE BREAKING OMG SUICIDE SOUNDS BETTER THEN LIVING IN A WORLD THAT DOESNT MATCH UP WITH TES TIMELINES OMGGGG


    Haha ok I went a little overboard but you get the point
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    Elebeth wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.

    you have the wrong idea about immortality... it's totally possible for a dragon to be BORN... grow up, and stay immortal... how do you think dragons were brought into existence?
    You don't know anything about ES lore do you? Dragons were not born they simply appeared into existence with the other Aedra, did you know dragons are Aedra? just like a Dremora is a Daedra, Dremora aren't born and neither are the Dragons. they are all figments of an Aedric God known as Aka< Akatosh, Auriel, Alduin, the LDB, Miraak, Tiber Septim, Wullhearth of Atmora are also all figments of Aka.

    Shame on you to try to use the lore against me... shame on you...
    Read this http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)
    Now there is one thing for sure... NO ONE KNOWS WERE THEY CAME FROM... that is an open spot for baby dragons! While there is no proof about their origins, there is no one that can say there isn't dragon eggs!

    NEXT

    Ugh, wikia!
    There you go http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons
    The USEP, that one Is much better.

  • NetoJON
    NetoJON
    Elebeth wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.

    you have the wrong idea about immortality... it's totally possible for a dragon to be BORN... grow up, and stay immortal... how do you think dragons were brought into existence?
    You don't know anything about ES lore do you? Dragons were not born they simply appeared into existence with the other Aedra, did you know dragons are Aedra? just like a Dremora is a Daedra, Dremora aren't born and neither are the Dragons. they are all figments of an Aedric God known as Aka< Akatosh, Auriel, Alduin, the LDB, Miraak, Tiber Septim, Wullhearth of Atmora are also all figments of Aka.

    Shame on you to try to use the lore against me... shame on you...
    Read this http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)
    Now there is one thing for sure... NO ONE KNOWS WERE THEY CAME FROM... that is an open spot for baby dragons! While there is no proof about their origins, there is no one that can say there isn't dragon eggs!

    NEXT

    Ugh, wikia!
    There you go http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons

    so good its incomplete
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    NetoJON wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.

    you have the wrong idea about immortality... it's totally possible for a dragon to be BORN... grow up, and stay immortal... how do you think dragons were brought into existence?
    You don't know anything about ES lore do you? Dragons were not born they simply appeared into existence with the other Aedra, did you know dragons are Aedra? just like a Dremora is a Daedra, Dremora aren't born and neither are the Dragons. they are all figments of an Aedric God known as Aka< Akatosh, Auriel, Alduin, the LDB, Miraak, Tiber Septim, Wullhearth of Atmora are also all figments of Aka.

    Shame on you to try to use the lore against me... shame on you...
    Read this http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)
    Now there is one thing for sure... NO ONE KNOWS WERE THEY CAME FROM... that is a open spot for baby dragons!

    NEXT
    Go ask Michael Kirkbride, he hangs over on Reddit, he created a lot of ES lore around the time of Morrowind back in 02 before he ragequit, also that wiki is fanmade by people who know virtually nothing of ES lore, If I wanted to I could change it myself to something completly irrelevant.

    no need.. I read the lore... its that simple...
    I study the lore mate...I could go on forever here, do u even know who Vivec is? or Cyrus? or Wullhearth? or Sotha Sil? or Dagoth Ur or the Nerevarine? do you know what Corprus is? what about the Numidium or Akulahkan or the Heart of Lorkhan or the Clockwork City or the Isle of Balfera, do you know who Jager Tharn is or Zurin Arctus or Uriel Septim? do you have any clue who any of them even are or what any of that is? do you even know what an Elder Scroll actually is? what about the Thu'um? do you know what that actually is? do you know how Seht, Ayem and Vehk got their Divine Powers? do you even recognize their names? do you know that the Tower of White-Gold was Modelled after the Dirrenni Tower? when were those 2 towers constructed BTW, I know the Answer but do you?

    Did you know Alduin is a God on the same level as Akatosh, he is the Nordic Aspect of him only he got lazy and decided to try to conquer Tamriel instead of doing his Job as the World Eater where he devours all life in Nirn.

    Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on December 17, 2015 6:13PM
  • NetoJON
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    anyway, I want dragons... thats it =P big small babies... I dont care.. just give me my dragon dlc that do not break the lore [snip]

    [edited for baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 29, 2024 12:11PM
  • NetoJON
    NetoJON
    NetoJON wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    Although, this is the dragonbreak, all the dragons are dead or asleep at this time so there will be no dragons. This has been discussed multiple times before. Search the forums if you have questions like this in the future.
    Indeed. This also applied to bringing back the Dwemer or the unaltered Falmer.
    NetoJON wrote: »
    they can say this... but I dont think they will keep this off so long... as dragons sells ;)
    And ZOS has to have permission for anything that might break lore. Ticking off a large segment of the fan-base for money might happen, but it would be a bone-headed move to have dragons appear in the 2nd Era or sell baby dragons in the crown store as has been requested in the past.

    The two ways to get around the lore-based prohibition to meeting Dragons, Dwemer, or unaltered Falmer and the like would be a "crisis point time-travel zone" (sending player-characters through time to a period of disarray and imminent destruction or decimation of the local culture or society so that people wouldn't remember or notice the strangers among them) or a "lost pocket of Oblivion zone" (some part of Tamriel got sucked into a timeless bubble and because of blah blah blah the inhabitants can never leave) but neither possibility has ever been put on the table. And that still doesn't include the dragon pets (thank the Divines).
    Lets hope they don't If zenimax added baby dragons they would be destroying one of the largest parts of ES lore there is as dragons are immortal and immortals cannot be born as Immortals do not age...a baby dragon would essentially be a baby for all eternity due to not aging meaning it wouldn't ever grow up.

    you have the wrong idea about immortality... it's totally possible for a dragon to be BORN... grow up, and stay immortal... how do you think dragons were brought into existence?
    You don't know anything about ES lore do you? Dragons were not born they simply appeared into existence with the other Aedra, did you know dragons are Aedra? just like a Dremora is a Daedra, Dremora aren't born and neither are the Dragons. they are all figments of an Aedric God known as Aka< Akatosh, Auriel, Alduin, the LDB, Miraak, Tiber Septim, Wullhearth of Atmora are also all figments of Aka.

    Shame on you to try to use the lore against me... shame on you...
    Read this http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragons_(Lore)
    Now there is one thing for sure... NO ONE KNOWS WERE THEY CAME FROM... that is a open spot for baby dragons!

    NEXT
    Go ask Michael Kirkbride, he hangs over on Reddit, he created a lot of ES lore around the time of Morrowind back in 02 before he ragequit, also that wiki is fanmade by people who know virtually nothing of ES lore, If I wanted to I could change it myself to something completly irrelevant.

    no need.. I read the lore... its that simple...
    I study the lore mate...do u even know who Vivec is? or Cyrus? or Wullhearth? or Sotha Sil? or Dagoth Ur or the Nerevarine? how about the Numidium or Akulahkan? or the Clockwork City or the Isle of Balfera, do you know who Jager Tharn is or Zurin Arctus? or Uriel Septim? do you have any clue what any of that even is?

    Did you know Alduin is a God on the same level as Akatosh, he is the Nordic Aspect of him only he got lazy and decided to try to conquer Tamriel instead of doing his Job as the World Eater where he devours all life in Nirn.

    so you know there is no proof about dragons REAL origin... if you know that.. we are good ^^
    Edited by NetoJON on December 17, 2015 6:10PM
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    L2L ( learn to lore) ;)
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    If I could get a full-sized adult dragon pet, I might finally consider spending crowns just to look ridiculous.
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    NetoJON wrote: »
    anyway, I want dragons... thats it =P big small babies... I dont care.. just give me my dragon dlc that do not break the lore [snip]
    Did you even play Skyrim at all? did you know there were 4 Elder Scrolls Game before Skyrim plus several spinoffs? take my advice L2L, dragons were never babies because all dragons are basically very minor Gods, the only difference between them and Recognized Deities such as Akatosh is the size of their soul, also Dragons are highly intelligent people (yeah they are a race of oddly shaped people, they are not mindless beasts) having a pet dragon would be like trying to turn an Argonian into a pet, if anything you would be there pet as they would consider someone without the Aedric soul of a dovah as beneath them.

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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 29, 2024 12:13PM
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    Go ask Michael Kirkbride, he hangs over on Reddit, he created a lot of ES lore around the time of Morrowind back in 02 before he ragequit, also that wiki is fanmade by people who know virtually nothing of ES lore, If I wanted to I could change it myself to something completly irrelevant.

    Don't bring Kirkbride in this, we'll all have our heads spinning for months. Umm, how about this for the whole dragon question. They are not from Tamriel. (<- thats a period)
    Those in Tamriel are slumbering or dead. You and in-masse return of dragons -> You'll end up in Skyrim online. I understand Skyrim is cool and all, but we don't need another Skyrim. Let each game be their own and stop asking for a return to what we used to have. I'd want 125712304692034626 times more spears and crossbows and all the magic schools we've lost and skills and attributes, than dragons. A dragon is what? A boss? A mount? A mob? with a stretch, an NPC? There are so many things I'd rather have and see rather than an extra boss/mount/mob/npc when there are so many original ones in ESO already. (Did you know that the maormer are in ESO for the first time ever since the first installment? It's a shame only one Alliance gets to experience them, and in such a short way - a Pyandonea expansion would be completly crazy )

    Not to mention the development implications (and I'll only scratch the surface here) - But do you see any flying creatures in ESO? No. Harpies/etc... may seem to you like they are flying, they aren't - their movement is purely 2D, and let's it appear as though they are flying by having them animated a few feet off the ground etc.... The implications of coding to have *flight* are huge both for game mechanics and visuals. And I doubt you'd want lazy sleeping walking dragons now would you?

    TL:DR

    -We've already seen dragons - way more things to see from TES lore - and way more areas we'd rather they work on.

    Obnoxious response: Stop being all dragon lovers and move on or go back to Skyrim.

    P.S.: I love spears and crossbows and .... cliffracers I guess. So everynow and then I go back to play Morrowind (2.0 - with TR and Graphic Overhaul :D ) - and lose a few months of my life.
  • NetoJON
    NetoJON
    NetoJON wrote: »
    anyway, I want dragons... thats it =P big small babies... I dont care.. just give me my dragon dlc that do not break the lore [snip]
    Did you even play Skyrim at all? did you know there were 4 Elder Scrolls Game before Skyrim? take my advice L2L.

    I want them in this online game

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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 29, 2024 12:14PM
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    NetoJON wrote: »
    anyway, I want dragons... thats it =P big small babies... I dont care.. just give me my dragon dlc that dot break the lore [snip]

    Legit question, I'm not trying to troll you or anything:

    If you love dragons so much why don't you go play Skyrim?

    I love Dagoth Ur but I don't go on forums asking for his early awakening. I go and play Morrowind. I love the concept of Mantela and Numidium but I don't go around here and ask ZOS to implement them somehow because they where so great back then. I go and play Daggerfall. I love Dragons but I don't go around and ask ZOS to bend/break established lore just to see them again. I go and play Skyrim. (<-- this one might look like a jab at you; it's not, I'm just making a point/asking a question)

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 29, 2024 12:13PM
    "I don't recall using teleportation, and yet there I was. Alone. Naked." Morrowind
  • NetoJON
    NetoJON
    Elebeth wrote: »
    NetoJON wrote: »
    anyway, I want dragons... thats it =P big small babies... I dont care.. just give me my dragon dlc that dot break the lore [snip]

    Legit question, I'm not trying to troll you or anything:

    If you love dragons so much why don't you go play Skyrim?

    I love Dagoth Ur but I don't go on forums asking for his early awakening. I go and play Morrowind. I love the concept of Mantela and Numidium but I don't go around here and ask ZOS to implement them somehow because they where so great back then. I go and play Daggerfall. I love Dragons but I don't go around and ask ZOS to bend/break established lore just to see them again. I go and play Skyrim. (<-- this one might look like a jab at you; it's not, I'm just making a point/asking a question)

    same answer
    "I want them in this online game"

    as a lot of people also do

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 29, 2024 12:15PM
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