Please, Nerf Crystal fragments!!!!! (UPDATE)
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Young_Archiebold✭✭✭1st few times I died to c.frags i felt the same... Now if I die to c.frags most of the time its something I did to mess up... Nerf not needed0 -
ralonasan✭✭✭✭I wish I could write L2P on your forehead in permanent marker.The ESO Forum Common Complaint Checklist: ☑
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TheDuck✭✭✭I am seriously beginning to wonder if any PvPer has ever posted anything that wasnt a rant/whine.
OP, if you dont like getting beat by casters, dont PvP against them, or dont PvP at all, or dont even play the game.
But stop thinking you're so special that a game should be altered (nerfed) to suit you.Edited by TheDuck on December 9, 2015 3:54PM0 -
Alec508✭✭✭These threads should never exist. Before you ask to nerf possibly someone's favorite class do this .
Make a sorc and play with the "op" class that you are complaining about. You will see that frags is strong but as a Mage you die so easily . Frags can be interupted and dodged EASILY & after you "spam" it your magicka is non existent.
Make a night blade. See that dark cloak only gets you so far , you can be detected by pots, AOE, Lightning form, etc. and after you use it so much your magicka is gone and you are helpless .
Make a sniper - see that after you send 4-5 snipes at someone and their hp is at half and they find you they will come kill you instantly . And oh your out of stamina
Make a dragon knight, you'll see that reflective scales can only get you so far
Make a Templar and see that either you can heal really good and do subpar damage or you can do really good damage and subpar healing .
Every class has good skills but if you haven't played as them all you don't know their weaknesses. I see a Mage, I think "when I was on my Mage what would do the most damage ? Hmm ill try that"
It's all trial and error and I am by no means an expert pvper I just try to look at things at all aspects . EVERYTHING CAN BE COUNTERED AND EVERYONE HAS A WEAKNESS. That's the beauty of pvpEdited by Alec508 on December 9, 2015 4:01PM1 -
Rook_Master✭✭✭✭✭Crystal Frag could use a good hard nerf. Maybe increase travel time and replace 20% dmg proc with empower buff, to bring it in line with Dark Flare? That would be fair.0 -
Alec508✭✭✭"as a mage you die so easily"
Are you another one that thinks shields need to be nerfed too? Lol against stamina users mages get destroyed . Like I said it's about knowing the classes not just crying when you can't kill someone because you keep using the same skills and same approach every time . Use as many memes as you want but if you want to have an actual intelligent argument then I'd like to hear why you think mages don't die easy when they wear all light armorEdited by Alec508 on December 9, 2015 4:36PM2 -
DannyLV702✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Rook_Master wrote: »Crystal Frag could use a good hard nerf. Maybe increase travel time and replace 20% dmg proc with empower buff, to bring it in line with Dark Flare? That would be fair.
Foh0 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Rook_Master wrote: »Crystal Frag could use a good hard nerf. Maybe increase travel time and replace 20% dmg proc with empower buff, to bring it in line with Dark Flare? That would be fair.
It's never used by PvE'rs as it is, it actually decreases my dps as it is with the proc, it doesn't need a nerf, unless you decrease the cast time significantly, and make it travel faster, then I'd be ok with a slight dps nerf to it.R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
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Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD1 -
beerninja✭✭✭on console the graphics for most abilities don't even show up so there is no chance to "see" anything. It would probably be less OP if the graphics in the game actually worked properly to allow people to dodge things they can see.0 -
Alec508✭✭✭on console the graphics for most abilities don't even show up so there is no chance to "see" anything. It would probably be less OP if the graphics in the game actually worked properly to allow people to dodge things they can see.
Huh? What? I see them clearly . Even so I warn people when they have frags coming towards them to dodge0 -
Erdmanski✭✭✭Is the OP serious?
1. Crystal Frags is not any more spammable than any other skill.
2. As many others have mentioned, it is extremely easy to dodge.
3. Any player can equip sword and shield and use defensive posture to reflect it (DK's obviously with reflective scales).
4. L2P.1 -
Jhunn✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why is this thread still going? This is the reason we've had so many stupid nerfs in ESO. Ugh.Gave up.0 -
beerninja✭✭✭on console the graphics for most abilities don't even show up so there is no chance to "see" anything. It would probably be less OP if the graphics in the game actually worked properly to allow people to dodge things they can see.
Huh? What? I see them clearly . Even so I warn people when they have frags coming towards them to dodge
if you play on azura's then they show up (along with all other graphics in the game) for about 5-10 minutes then after that all the graphics in the game disappear because there are so many zergs on the server the console can't handle it.0 -
Tankqull✭✭✭✭✭
✭on console the graphics for most abilities don't even show up so there is no chance to "see" anything. It would probably be less OP if the graphics in the game actually worked properly to allow people to dodge things they can see.
dont use a toaster to play on - want graphics play with a pc, want to sit leisurely 5m away from your gaming device on your couch with munched up graphics like baby pap use a console.spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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✭✭Graphics on console are fine imo. If anything these winge bags should know is in pvp you can never tell it's procd anyway. Nor see if surge is active. It isn't easy being sorc (sometimes) probably still runs martial knowledge too.PC Master Race
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robkrush✭✭✭✭✭.on console the graphics for most abilities don't even show up so there is no chance to "see" anything. It would probably be less OP if the graphics in the game actually worked properly to allow people to dodge things they can see.
dont use a toaster to play on - want graphics play with a pc, want to sit leisurely 5m away from your gaming device on your couch with munched up graphics like baby pap use a console.
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cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭.on console the graphics for most abilities don't even show up so there is no chance to "see" anything. It would probably be less OP if the graphics in the game actually worked properly to allow people to dodge things they can see.
dont use a toaster to play on - want graphics play with a pc, want to sit leisurely 5m away from your gaming device on your couch with munched up graphics like baby pap use a console.
I spent more like 30 seconds with getting my settings to maxed, and now I've played for a few thousand hours, must be user error to spend 10 hours with the settings :PR.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD0 -
Alec508✭✭✭on console the graphics for most abilities don't even show up so there is no chance to "see" anything. It would probably be less OP if the graphics in the game actually worked properly to allow people to dodge things they can see.
dont use a toaster to play on - want graphics play with a pc, want to sit leisurely 5m away from your gaming device on your couch with munched up graphics like baby pap use a console.
A toaster ? Munched up graphics? Have you ever played on console? I have a huge wall mounted tv and the game looks beautiful . Way better then it did on my "toaster" of an Alienware did when I was hunched up like a hermit hovering over my little PC monitor2 -
Alec508✭✭✭Is the OP serious?
1. Crystal Frags is not any more spammable than any other skill.
2. As many others have mentioned, it is extremely easy to dodge.
3. Any player can equip sword and shield and use defensive posture to reflect it (DK's obviously with reflective scales).
4. L2P.
Does defensive posture work for things like lethal arrow ?0 -
Asmael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭.on console the graphics for most abilities don't even show up so there is no chance to "see" anything. It would probably be less OP if the graphics in the game actually worked properly to allow people to dodge things they can see.
dont use a toaster to play on - want graphics play with a pc, want to sit leisurely 5m away from your gaming device on your couch with munched up graphics like baby pap use a console.
10 hours on settings?
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Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"as a mage you die so easily"
Are you another one that thinks shields need to be nerfed too? Lol against stamina users mages get destroyed . Like I said it's about knowing the classes not just crying when you can't kill someone because you keep using the same skills and same approach every time . Use as many memes as you want but if you want to have an actual intelligent argument then I'd like to hear why you think mages don't die easy when they wear all light armor
No kidding. Someone should explain to us how a 10K Ward (in Cyrodiil) is supposed to save us from 13K Wrecking Blows. It doesn't matter if you cast your Ward continuously if the math is against you... you're already dying underneath the Ward!
Not only do Wards not need to be nerfed, they need to be UN-nerfed in PvP. The damage shield reduction from Battle Spirit should be reduced to 25% at the most, if not removed altogether!#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is no way this thread should have ever got to be 8 pages. More than half of all the frags I use in Cyrodiil - even the ones that are insta-proced - fail to hit their targets. I get them reflected back at me all the time and all I do is simply block and my health bar does not move. If there ever was a L2P issue, this is it.
Also, Frags is the only sorc DPS skill that's any good since now curse can be cleansed, blocked, and still is restricted to a single target. You can't just nerf frags and still have NB and templars have their good goto DPs skills (we'll leave DKs out of this because they are bad).Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.1 -
Tankqull✭✭✭✭✭
✭on console the graphics for most abilities don't even show up so there is no chance to "see" anything. It would probably be less OP if the graphics in the game actually worked properly to allow people to dodge things they can see.
dont use a toaster to play on - want graphics play with a pc, want to sit leisurely 5m away from your gaming device on your couch with munched up graphics like baby pap use a console.
A toaster ? Munched up graphics? Have you ever played on console? I have a huge wall mounted tv and the game looks beautiful . Way better then it did on my "toaster" of an Alienware did when I was hunched up like a hermit hovering over my little PC monitor
sure tested on PS4 got sick about the poor grafic and switched back
PC:
the toaster
not to mention the awefull culling destroying pvp entirely in combination with the lack of any UI information provided on lawnmowers.
Edited by Tankqull on December 9, 2015 6:19PMspelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
Sallington wrote: »Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"0 -
Alec508✭✭✭on console the graphics for most abilities don't even show up so there is no chance to "see" anything. It would probably be less OP if the graphics in the game actually worked properly to allow people to dodge things they can see.
dont use a toaster to play on - want graphics play with a pc, want to sit leisurely 5m away from your gaming device on your couch with munched up graphics like baby pap use a console.
A toaster ? Munched up graphics? Have you ever played on console? I have a huge wall mounted tv and the game looks beautiful . Way better then it did on my "toaster" of an Alienware did when I was hunched up like a hermit hovering over my little PC monitor
sure tested on PS4 got sick about the poor grafic and switched back
PC:
the toaster
not to mention the awefull culling destroying pvp entirely in combination with the lack of any UI information provided on lawnmowers.
How much is your PC worth?
And I thought the "toaster" pic was the PC pic. Imo it looks better then the pic of the PCEdited by Alec508 on December 9, 2015 6:33PM1 -
Tankqull✭✭✭✭✭
✭How much is your PC worth?
And I thought the "toaster" pic was the PC pic. Imo it looks better then the pic of the PC
its from this year and i spent less money on it then last year on my PS4. but its a custom PC as i do not like spending 50% of my money on the name and not for the performance.
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Sallington wrote: »Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »stojekarcub18_ESO wrote: »Granted, the dmg is pretty rediculous on it...but please stop asking for nerfs. If people are *** you in pvp, don't play pvp anymore. Zeni hasn't realized that skills can be adjusted seperately for pvp & pve yet, so we're still stuck in the old "nerf because pvp---senseless harm to pve" cycle.
Well, don't worry about it ZOS is going to buff and fix all classes in the next patch.
I just wanted to see, how these guys who play as sorc defend their class from getting nerf while they post other classes to get a nerf.
In this thread, I can know now how many players have sorc as their main class. No wonder they are very little nerf threads on sorc.
So, I started this thread to make others know that sorc is one of the OP class in this game and as neverever been nerf to the ground like other class *cough* DK and Temp*cough*, while NB was consider a weak class before IC.
I have a dk as my main.
Anyway:
1. Nb was never weak before IC...
2. Should of seen sorc when dk's rules the world.
3. Still a L2P issue.
In fact, NBs startet being overlords when 1.6 hit in. That's when they've risen.
And Sorc was so poor during the DK supremacy
it was such a pain.
The Infinity roll dodging stam blade that was 2 hit you was horrible.. xDHow much is your PC worth?
And I thought the "toaster" pic was the PC pic. Imo it looks better then the pic of the PC
its from this year and i spent less money on it then last year on my PS4. but its a custom PC as i do not like spending 50% of my money on the name and not for the performance.
Clicked on this thread to see how the discussion is going only to see so pointless argument about graphics.
Graphic's don't mean anything in a mmorpg after a certain extent so can we get back to the discussion instead of people throwing their ego everywhere?PS4 EU DC
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerFor what it's worth, we don't currently have plans to adjust the damage of Crystal Fragments.38
