Fix to shield stacking: Magicka regen should be ZERO when a shield is active

NeillMcAttack · December 2015

Back on topic, how do we balance a classes skills that apply, tankiness, escape/mobility, and ranged DPS, all from the same resource.
While I don't think that removing regen from what is essentially a buff skill (unlike blocking) is apt. We should prob look at scaling one of these attributes off something else.

Shields scaling off health doesn't make sense IMO. But perhaps scaling bolt escape off stamina would?.....

Sarousse · December 2015

Septimus_Magna · December 2015

I agree ofc, every shield or minor magicka buff should reduce magicka regen to zero, wtf are you buffing up for bro?!

Everyone should respec into stam build and spam Steel Tornado, Wrecking Blow or Ambush as much as humanly possible, no exceptions!

Great, constructive suggestions to improve this game! Keep up the good work!

blabafat · December 2015

I think when everyone thinks of shields they only consider the biggest one - hardened ward.

When you make shields crittable, you also make the small shields crittable - Igneous and Blazing Shield

These shields are usually 3-5k(5k requires 30k health w/ points into bastion)

If you make these shields crittable they will be even MORE useless. ZoS made the same mistake when they nerfed shields and introduced shieldbreaker. They only looked at the OP single skill, and they made a general nerf to all similar skills, even though it was not necessary for any shield besides that particular one(and maybe harness magicka, but that one is irrelevant when facing stamina builds).

Ezareth · December 2015

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

Back on topic, how do we balance a classes skills that apply, tankiness, escape/mobility, and ranged DPS, all from the same resource.
While I don't think that removing regen from what is essentially a buff skill (unlike blocking) is apt. We should prob look at scaling one of these attributes off something else.

Shields scaling off health doesn't make sense IMO. But perhaps scaling bolt escape off stamina would?.....

leepalmer95 · December 2015

robkrush wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

So many bad players on this forum. So many tears.

There should make you take a test before your allowed to post.

E.g. Q. Whats your usual dmg rotation?

A. WB, WB, WB, WB, WB
A. Ambush, Ambush, Ambush....
A. Jabs, Jabs , Jabs, Jabs.

If your answer is like that is should just pop up L2P and then come back.

Wow, many insight, such intelligence.

What about,
Shield, shield, mine, CF, CF, CF, CF, CF, all whilst standing perfectly still.
Do I pass? am i good enough to post now?

These are already 3 different abilities, so it is skilled.
But using only one ability all the time is not skilled. See the difference ?

So.... Rally, immovable, WB, WB, WB, WB makes me a good player? Lol.

Nah rally, crit rush, La, wb canceled with a heavy, maybe ult, etc... is skilled.

Learn to animation cancel.

CP5 · December 2015

Gets on DK, finds people that approve of this change, spams igneous shield

blabafat wrote: »

I think when everyone thinks of shields they only consider the biggest one - hardened ward.

When you make shields crittable, you also make the small shields crittable - Igneous and Blazing Shield

These shields are usually 3-5k(5k requires 30k health w/ points into bastion)

If you make these shields crittable they will be even MORE useless. ZoS made the same mistake when they nerfed shields and introduced shieldbreaker. They only looked at the OP single skill, and they made a general nerf to all similar skills, even though it was not necessary for any shield besides that particular one(and maybe harness magicka, but that one is irrelevant when facing stamina builds).

Always felt this way after they added that poorly thought out quick fix. They can't do anything with shields if that set is still around.

robkrush · December 2015

CP5 wrote: »

Gets on DK, finds people that approve of this change, spams igneous shield

blabafat wrote: »

I think when everyone thinks of shields they only consider the biggest one - hardened ward.

When you make shields crittable, you also make the small shields crittable - Igneous and Blazing Shield

These shields are usually 3-5k(5k requires 30k health w/ points into bastion)

If you make these shields crittable they will be even MORE useless. ZoS made the same mistake when they nerfed shields and introduced shieldbreaker. They only looked at the OP single skill, and they made a general nerf to all similar skills, even though it was not necessary for any shield besides that particular one(and maybe harness magicka, but that one is irrelevant when facing stamina builds).

Always felt this way after they added that poorly thought out quick fix. They can't do anything with shields if that set is still around.

They'll have to axe that set before this is implemented. Shouldn't be a big deal. No different than when they changed stam regen and tanks had to reinvent the wheel.

CP5 · December 2015

robkrush wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

Gets on DK, finds people that approve of this change, spams igneous shield

blabafat wrote: »

I think when everyone thinks of shields they only consider the biggest one - hardened ward.

When you make shields crittable, you also make the small shields crittable - Igneous and Blazing Shield

These shields are usually 3-5k(5k requires 30k health w/ points into bastion)

If you make these shields crittable they will be even MORE useless. ZoS made the same mistake when they nerfed shields and introduced shieldbreaker. They only looked at the OP single skill, and they made a general nerf to all similar skills, even though it was not necessary for any shield besides that particular one(and maybe harness magicka, but that one is irrelevant when facing stamina builds).

Always felt this way after they added that poorly thought out quick fix. They can't do anything with shields if that set is still around.

They'll have to axe that set before this is implemented. Shouldn't be a big deal. No different than when they changed stam regen and tanks had to reinvent the wheel.

I just remember when ZOS changed sets to be 5 pieces and people were, inclined, to say the willows path set shouldn't change since they spent so much gold in upgrading the set for spell damage. People a while ago shortly after IC came out also said this about shield breaker. Just hope the initial joy of the set has worn off so ZOS can remove it without some people going ballistic.