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Blazing spear that OP skill needs even more nerfing!

  • robkrush
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    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    Templars are the healers in the game. I'm sorry but you cant expect to have strong attacks too.

    Don't get me wrong, There are some really great templar players. But the majority pop their healing ultimate at the beginning of fight, get destroyed, then come here to complain about how weak they are. Hmmm....

    This is just plain WRONG. No class has a predefined role. Stop trolling.

    People keep repeating that nonsense but its the fact. Get used to it.

    If this is true why have zenimax said on multiple occasions that they DO NOT want templars to just be healers, or have they got it wrong too?

    I assume this is a rhetorical question. I'm fully aware what zos has SAID. But common sense dictates that you can't be the best healer on the game and do equal or greater damage than the damage
    classes.
    Edited by robkrush on December 1, 2015 1:56PM
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    The game's central concept of "PvP in PvP areas and be safe in safe areas" needs to stay the way it is.
    ZOS, 1-12-2016
  • BalticBlues
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    How does it feel when a Templar does more DPS than you in PvE then?
    What has a class to do with damage?
    DKs can mitigate.
    NBs can cloak.
    Sorcs are fast.
    Templars can heal.
    All classes have their inherent bonuses, but these bonuses should not be linked to damage.

    Also: What has armor to do with damage?
    This is how a sane armor approach could be:
    LIGHT: improved magicka regeneration, high protection against magical damage
    MEDIUM: improved stamina regneration, medium protection against mag+phys damage
    HEAVY: improved life regeneration, high protection against physical damage


    For a realistic and balanced approach, DMG should not depend on classes and armor at all.
    DMG should be the defined by WEAPONS, not by armor or classes, as in real life.

    ZOS, please bring some sense back into the game. Perhaps ZOS should get rid of the classes if this helps the balance? Soon it will be NB world anyway. Then everybody could just pick their favorite skills, as in real life. So let us all cloak, be fast and heal a bit please. Ah, I see, NBs already can do that...

    Edited by BalticBlues on December 1, 2015 2:14PM
  • daemonios
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    How does it feel when a Templar does more DPS than you in PvE then?
    What has a class to do with damage?
    NBs can cloak.
    DKs can mitigate.
    Templars can heal.
    Sorcs can surprise.
    All classes have their inherent bonuses, but these bonuses should not be linked to damage.

    Also: What has armor to do with damage?
    This is how a sane armor approach could be:
    LIGHT: improved magicka regeneration, high protection against magical damage
    MEDIUM: improved stamina regneration, medium protection against mag+phys damage
    HEAVY: improved life regeneration, high protection against physical damage


    For a realistic and balanced approach, DMG should not depend on classes and armor at all.
    DMG should be the defined by WEAPONS, not by armor or classes, as in real life.

    ZOS, please bring some sense back into the game.
    As all people will play NBs soon, perhaps ZOS should get rid of the classes.
    Just as in Skyrim, everybody then could just pick to learn what he likes. As in real life.

    So much agree!
  • Van_0S
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    robkrush wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    Templars are the healers in the game. I'm sorry but you cant expect to have strong attacks too.

    Don't get me wrong, There are some really great templar players. But the majority pop their healing ultimate at the beginning of fight, get destroyed, then come here to complain about how weak they are. Hmmm....

    This is just plain WRONG. No class has a predefined role. Stop trolling.

    People keep repeating that nonsense but its the fact. Get used to it.

    So, for your logic is:
    Dk are tanks.
    Sorc are range DPS.
    NB are Melee DPS.
    Templar are healers.

    If thats also what zos thinks then they better add new classes and a class change otherwise we all are going to quit for what they promised us with their word "Play the way you want", is also a BIG LOL!!!!! on their part.
    Edited by Van_0S on December 1, 2015 2:12PM
  • vamp_emily
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    Digerati wrote: »
    Ambush -surprise attack - wrecking blow.

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    Cloak - cloak - cloak

    that is too much work.

    WB from stealth = Death.
    Edited by vamp_emily on December 1, 2015 2:13PM

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  • Nifty2g
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    How does it feel when a Templar does more DPS than you in PvE then?
    What has a class to do with damage?
    DKs can mitigate.
    NBs can cloak.
    Sorcs are fast.
    Templars can heal.
    All classes have their inherent bonuses, but these bonuses should not be linked to damage.

    Also: What has armor to do with damage?
    This is how a sane armor approach could be:
    LIGHT: improved magicka regeneration, high protection against magical damage
    MEDIUM: improved stamina regneration, medium protection against mag+phys damage
    HEAVY: improved life regeneration, high protection against physical damage


    For a realistic and balanced approach, DMG should not depend on classes and armor at all.
    DMG should be the defined by WEAPONS, not by armor or classes, as in real life.

    ZOS, please bring some sense back into the game. Perhaps ZOS should get rid of the classes if this helps the balance? Soon it will be NB world anyway. Then everybody could just pick their favorite skills, as in real life. So let us all cloak, be fast and heal a bit please. Ah, I see, NBs already can do that...
    why were you quoting me for lol i was agreeing
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  • timidobserver
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    I would be interested in seeing what kind of numbers this level 34 NB was getting on you. Did you have a log addon running? What damage skills was he using and what were they hitting you for? How much health do you have? Was it a stamblade or a Magicka NB.

    I haven't really played with the new battle leveling, but I guess that might be related to the issue.
    Edited by timidobserver on December 1, 2015 2:27PM
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  • zornyan
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    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    Templars are the healers in the game. I'm sorry but you cant expect to have strong attacks too.

    Don't get me wrong, There are some really great templar players. But the majority pop their healing ultimate at the beginning of fight, get destroyed, then come here to complain about how weak they are. Hmmm....

    This is just plain WRONG. No class has a predefined role. Stop trolling.

    People keep repeating that nonsense but its the fact. Get used to it.

    If this is true why have zenimax said on multiple occasions that they DO NOT want templars to just be healers, or have they got it wrong too?

    I assume this is a rhetorical question. I'm fully aware what zos has SAID. But common sense dictates that you can't be the best healer on the game and do equal or greater damage than the damage
    classes.

    Except other classes can heal just as well too, ever heard of healing ward? You know that on demand shield that heals your entire health bar? Or vigor, a group heal for 15k+ along aide rally.

    Yeah no other classes can heal at all..
  • robkrush
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    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    Templars are the healers in the game. I'm sorry but you cant expect to have strong attacks too.

    Don't get me wrong, There are some really great templar players. But the majority pop their healing ultimate at the beginning of fight, get destroyed, then come here to complain about how weak they are. Hmmm....

    This is just plain WRONG. No class has a predefined role. Stop trolling.

    People keep repeating that nonsense but its the fact. Get used to it.

    If this is true why have zenimax said on multiple occasions that they DO NOT want templars to just be healers, or have they got it wrong too?

    I assume this is a rhetorical question. I'm fully aware what zos has SAID. But common sense dictates that you can't be the best healer on the game and do equal or greater damage than the damage
    classes.

    Except other classes can heal just as well too, ever heard of healing ward? You know that on demand shield that heals your entire health bar? Or vigor, a group heal for 15k+ along aide rally.

    Yeah no other classes can heal at all..

    Wow. We clearly have different experiences in this game. I wonder how much content you have even completed. You talk like anything is possible, and it is if you are just questing, but you'll never get through high end content unless you are willing to accept the facts and build classes around their strengths. Im done discussing. I'm not having any problems playing this game, you guys are. But you are not willing to listen or give an inch.
    Edited by robkrush on December 1, 2015 2:43PM
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    The game's central concept of "PvP in PvP areas and be safe in safe areas" needs to stay the way it is.
    ZOS, 1-12-2016
  • zornyan
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    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    Templars are the healers in the game. I'm sorry but you cant expect to have strong attacks too.

    Don't get me wrong, There are some really great templar players. But the majority pop their healing ultimate at the beginning of fight, get destroyed, then come here to complain about how weak they are. Hmmm....

    This is just plain WRONG. No class has a predefined role. Stop trolling.

    People keep repeating that nonsense but its the fact. Get used to it.

    If this is true why have zenimax said on multiple occasions that they DO NOT want templars to just be healers, or have they got it wrong too?

    I assume this is a rhetorical question. I'm fully aware what zos has SAID. But common sense dictates that you can't be the best healer on the game and do equal or greater damage than the damage
    classes.

    Except other classes can heal just as well too, ever heard of healing ward? You know that on demand shield that heals your entire health bar? Or vigor, a group heal for 15k+ along aide rally.

    Yeah no other classes can heal at all..

    Wow. We clearly have different experiences in this game. I wonder how much content you have even completed. You talk like anything is possible, and it is if you are just questing, but you'll never get through high end content unless you are willing to accept the facts and build classes around their strengths. Im done discussing. I'm not having any problems playing this game, you guys are. But you are not willing to listen or give an inch.

    I've done vet dungeons, Maelstrom vet and spent months in pvp, VDSA, trials.

    I don't really use breath of life anymore as healing ward is better when solo.

    Templars need buffing, being heal bots is not what they are designed to do, hence why we have only ONE of 3 skill lines that promote healing, and only 2 actual heals, one of which is a uselsss 2 second cast time.

    We shouldn't be forced to be healers, Nightblades for instance have

    nb sap tank magicka
    NB healer magicka

    NB dps stamina
    NB tank stam
    NB dps magicka


    Or sorc
    Shield tank magicka
    Sorc health/stam tank
    Dps stam
    Dps magicka
    Healer magicka

    Templar
    Healer magicka


    DK
    Tank
    Dps magicka

  • blabafat
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    NB often specialize in taking down single targets. Think assassin. That's an advantage of that class.

    Your templar is probably more group or even support oriented. That's a strength of the Templar class. So don't be a single target, be in a group.

    No no no no. This is not normal in any game, never have i seen this before. they say "items matter" hahahaahah funny *** really love it.

    play the primary healer of any game against the assasin class of that game in a 1vs1 and come back.

    No no no no. This should never happen 34 level > vr16 . Simple as that, take out battle level compeltely, if lowers want pvp they should go in non veteran campaign.

    If the 34 is way more skilled than the VR16, then it should always happen.
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  • Callous2208
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    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    Templars are the healers in the game. I'm sorry but you cant expect to have strong attacks too.

    Don't get me wrong, There are some really great templar players. But the majority pop their healing ultimate at the beginning of fight, get destroyed, then come here to complain about how weak they are. Hmmm....

    This is just plain WRONG. No class has a predefined role. Stop trolling.

    People keep repeating that nonsense but its the fact. Get used to it.

    If this is true why have zenimax said on multiple occasions that they DO NOT want templars to just be healers, or have they got it wrong too?

    I assume this is a rhetorical question. I'm fully aware what zos has SAID. But common sense dictates that you can't be the best healer on the game and do equal or greater damage than the damage
    classes.

    Except other classes can heal just as well too, ever heard of healing ward? You know that on demand shield that heals your entire health bar? Or vigor, a group heal for 15k+ along aide rally.

    Yeah no other classes can heal at all..

    Wow. We clearly have different experiences in this game. I wonder how much content you have even completed. You talk like anything is possible, and it is if you are just questing, but you'll never get through high end content unless you are willing to accept the facts and build classes around their strengths. Im done discussing. I'm not having any problems playing this game, you guys are. But you are not willing to listen or give an inch.

    With this post I really question how much content you've completed. I would guess very little going by the statements you have made so far. When you get some experience in vet content, trials and pvp, come back here and give this thread another look from a more informed perspective.
  • I55UE5
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    DMG should be the defined by WEAPONS, not by armor or classes, as in real life.

    What class are you in real life?
  • BalticBlues
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    DMG should be the defined by WEAPONS, not by armor or classes, as in real life.
    I55UE5 wrote: »
    What class are you in real life?
    I am civil class now. Unarmed and out of service.
    I still know how to use weapons. Give me one, I handle it.
    However, in Germany we believe that weapons do not belong in civil hands.
    It is safer for all of us that madmen do not have access to weapons.


    Edited by BalticBlues on December 1, 2015 4:09PM
  • zornyan
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    DMG should be the defined by WEAPONS, not by armor or classes, as in real life.
    I55UE5 wrote: »
    What class are you in real life?
    I am civil class now. Unarmed and out of service.
    I still know how to use weapons. Give me one, I handle it.
    However, in Germany we believe that weapons do not belong in civil hands.
    It is safer for all of us if madmen do not have access to weapons.

    Sorry had to LOL , one of my friends is in the army, he is the definition of a freaking fruit loop nut job, last picture he put up on Facebook was him using some form of missile launcher. This is a guy that would start random fights with people for fun, and do all sorts of crazy shiz, and he's been given control of freaking missles....
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    robkrush wrote: »
    Wow. We clearly have different experiences in this game. I wonder how much content you have even completed. You talk like anything is possible, and it is if you are just questing, but you'll never get through high end content unless you are willing to accept the facts and build classes around their strengths. Im done discussing. I'm not having any problems playing this game, you guys are. But you are not willing to listen or give an inch.

    Anything is possible. If you had been playing since before 1.6 you'd know that. Templars have been over-nerfed into the only role they can possibly be any good for end-game content - group healer. And other classes can fill that role just as well. Thing is Templars can't fill other roles as well as other classes. You indeed are done discussing, you have nothing more to bring to this discussion. If you are content playing classes in typical roles, good for you. But when ZOS goes and switches key skills in several classes again (1.6 -_-), remember what you've just stated and suck it up.

    I mean, I play healer occasionaly with my stamplar(lolz - so much pain) and mostly use the resto staff skills.... but yeah, I'm most likely efficient because I'm playing the 'Healer' class.

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    Zornyan, some armies are weird. Back to Templars:

    How many Templars skills are left that actually are working and useful in PvP?
    With blazing spear it looks like another one bites the dust.

    Edited by BalticBlues on December 1, 2015 4:18PM
  • PBpsy
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    Nerfing spears . there is a very sick hidden meaning somewhere in that...... :s
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    In addition to participating in new threads about specific recent changes, don't forget there is still an active Templar Update thread on the Developer Discussion forum for another avenue to give feedback on the changes you would like to see :)
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  • RinOkumara
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    If you can't kill a level 34 nightblade, it's plain and simple, you need to git gud, and L2P
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    RinOkumara wrote: »
    If you can't kill a level 34 nightblade, it's plain and simple, you need to git gud, and L2P

    But that is HURD!!!!
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    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    Templars are the healers in the game. I'm sorry but you cant expect to have strong attacks too.

    Don't get me wrong, There are some really great templar players. But the majority pop their healing ultimate at the beginning of fight, get destroyed, then come here to complain about how weak they are. Hmmm....

    This is just plain WRONG. No class has a predefined role. Stop trolling.

    People keep repeating that nonsense but its the fact. Get used to it.

    If this is true why have zenimax said on multiple occasions that they DO NOT want templars to just be healers, or have they got it wrong too?

    I assume this is a rhetorical question. I'm fully aware what zos has SAID. But common sense dictates that you can't be the best healer on the game and do equal or greater damage than the damage
    classes.

    Except other classes can heal just as well too, ever heard of healing ward? You know that on demand shield that heals your entire health bar? Or vigor, a group heal for 15k+ along aide rally.

    Yeah no other classes can heal at all..

    Wow. We clearly have different experiences in this game. I wonder how much content you have even completed. You talk like anything is possible, and it is if you are just questing, but you'll never get through high end content unless you are willing to accept the facts and build classes around their strengths. Im done discussing. I'm not having any problems playing this game, you guys are. But you are not willing to listen or give an inch.

    So people will never get through high end content with accepting facts like Templars are required for all healing? Then I give you an all sorcerer run of some end game content:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DibwcVuuS7g

    They have done HRC and could probably do Sanctum Ophidia without a Templar healer too. Those of us that really know how to play the game are capable of healing on any class and doing damage on any class. The point of this thread is a skill that has been pointlessly nerfed, not to whinge over whether one Templar can do more damage than one DK. The same goes for vDSA, vWGT and vICP - I've seen and been part of runs there that didn't have a Templar healer. And I've completed runs there where I was a Templar magicka DD. All end game content is possible with any variation you can think of if you have the skill for it. But that is beside the point of this thread.
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  • Nifty2g
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    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    Templars are the healers in the game. I'm sorry but you cant expect to have strong attacks too.

    Don't get me wrong, There are some really great templar players. But the majority pop their healing ultimate at the beginning of fight, get destroyed, then come here to complain about how weak they are. Hmmm....

    This is just plain WRONG. No class has a predefined role. Stop trolling.

    People keep repeating that nonsense but its the fact. Get used to it.

    If this is true why have zenimax said on multiple occasions that they DO NOT want templars to just be healers, or have they got it wrong too?

    I assume this is a rhetorical question. I'm fully aware what zos has SAID. But common sense dictates that you can't be the best healer on the game and do equal or greater damage than the damage
    classes.

    Except other classes can heal just as well too, ever heard of healing ward? You know that on demand shield that heals your entire health bar? Or vigor, a group heal for 15k+ along aide rally.

    Yeah no other classes can heal at all..

    Wow. We clearly have different experiences in this game. I wonder how much content you have even completed. You talk like anything is possible, and it is if you are just questing, but you'll never get through high end content unless you are willing to accept the facts and build classes around their strengths. Im done discussing. I'm not having any problems playing this game, you guys are. But you are not willing to listen or give an inch.
    son, this is bait
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  • SemiD4rkness
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    How does it feel when a Templar does more DPS than you in PvE then?
    What has a class to do with damage?
    DKs can mitigate.
    NBs can cloak.
    Sorcs are fast.
    Templars can heal.
    All classes have their inherent bonuses, but these bonuses should not be linked to damage.

    Also: What has armor to do with damage?
    This is how a sane armor approach could be:
    LIGHT: improved magicka regeneration, high protection against magical damage
    MEDIUM: improved stamina regneration, medium protection against mag+phys damage
    HEAVY: improved life regeneration, high protection against physical damage


    For a realistic and balanced approach, DMG should not depend on classes and armor at all.
    DMG should be the defined by WEAPONS, not by armor or classes, as in real life.

    ZOS, please bring some sense back into the game. Perhaps ZOS should get rid of the classes if this helps the balance? Soon it will be NB world anyway. Then everybody could just pick their favorite skills, as in real life. So let us all cloak, be fast and heal a bit please. Ah, I see, NBs already can do that...

    Both magicka and stamina Dks can mitigate.
    Both magicka and stamina NBs can cloak
    Both magicka and stamina Sorcs are fast.
    Both magicka and stamina templars can h.... OH WAIT

    So much ignorance on 1 thread. Ofc you're all blinded fools when playing the easy mode classes.
    I'll just leave this here:

    NOT ALL TEMPLARS CAN HEAL
    NOT ALL TEMPLARS CAN HEAL
    NOT ALL TEMPLARS CAN HEAL
    NOT ALL TEMPLARS CAN HEAL

    As a stamina templar I give up on 90% of my class passives. I also give up on our strongest ability (heal)
    Just because all you see are templars healing big zergs doesn't mean we are a god damn EXCLUSIVE HEALING CLASS.

  • Hiero_Glyph
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    Templars are the healers in the game. I'm sorry but you cant expect to have strong attacks too.

    Don't get me wrong, There are some really great templar players. But the majority pop their healing ultimate at the beginning of fight, get destroyed, then come here to complain about how weak they are. Hmmm....

    This is just plain WRONG. No class has a predefined role. Stop trolling.

    People keep repeating that nonsense but its the fact. Get used to it.

    If this is true why have zenimax said on multiple occasions that they DO NOT want templars to just be healers, or have they got it wrong too?

    I assume this is a rhetorical question. I'm fully aware what zos has SAID. But common sense dictates that you can't be the best healer on the game and do equal or greater damage than the damage
    classes.

    Except other classes can heal just as well too, ever heard of healing ward? You know that on demand shield that heals your entire health bar? Or vigor, a group heal for 15k+ along aide rally.

    Yeah no other classes can heal at all..

    Wow. We clearly have different experiences in this game. I wonder how much content you have even completed. You talk like anything is possible, and it is if you are just questing, but you'll never get through high end content unless you are willing to accept the facts and build classes around their strengths. Im done discussing. I'm not having any problems playing this game, you guys are. But you are not willing to listen or give an inch.
    son, this is bait

    Pot, meet kettle.

    On-topic: I really hope that ZOS can at least fix many of the bugs/issues that have plagued Templars for far too long in the next major update. I'm not even talking about basic balance adjustments, which is sad.
  • Islyn
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    Yeah a group of sorts of course can do that. A group of dks did it all before there were cp etc, back when they were op.

    Now talk to me about when people need stamina Regen etc.

    I agree with your post and all but there are a lot more things Templars do in actual group play which includes different builds than just heal.

    I cannot recall the last time I just healed (but then I know you know what I mean)
    Member of the Old Guard - Closed Betas 2013
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    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    zornyan wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    Templars are the healers in the game. I'm sorry but you cant expect to have strong attacks too.

    Don't get me wrong, There are some really great templar players. But the majority pop their healing ultimate at the beginning of fight, get destroyed, then come here to complain about how weak they are. Hmmm....

    This is just plain WRONG. No class has a predefined role. Stop trolling.

    People keep repeating that nonsense but its the fact. Get used to it.

    If this is true why have zenimax said on multiple occasions that they DO NOT want templars to just be healers, or have they got it wrong too?

    I assume this is a rhetorical question. I'm fully aware what zos has SAID. But common sense dictates that you can't be the best healer on the game and do equal or greater damage than the damage
    classes.

    Except other classes can heal just as well too, ever heard of healing ward? You know that on demand shield that heals your entire health bar? Or vigor, a group heal for 15k+ along aide rally.

    Yeah no other classes can heal at all..

    Wow. We clearly have different experiences in this game. I wonder how much content you have even completed. You talk like anything is possible, and it is if you are just questing, but you'll never get through high end content unless you are willing to accept the facts and build classes around their strengths. Im done discussing. I'm not having any problems playing this game, you guys are. But you are not willing to listen or give an inch.

    What sad game are you playing? It's obviously not ESO.
    This one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!
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    Templar BuFFFFFFFFFF
  • Chidy1776
    Chidy1776
    I love the battle leveling, it makes pvp fun for everyone, not just people who have nothing to do but grind levels. At vet 16 you still have a huge advantage and you getting killed means you either got out played or there were other variables. Instead of looking at it as a v16 v a 34 look at it as it is, a v14 v a v16. That's close enough to for the v14 to have a decent chance at getting a kill.
  • Tankqull
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    daemonios wrote: »
    robkrush wrote: »
    Templars are the healers in the game. I'm sorry but you cant expect to have strong attacks too.

    Don't get me wrong, There are some really great templar players. But the majority pop their healing ultimate at the beginning of fight, get destroyed, then come here to complain about how weak they are. Hmmm....

    This is just plain WRONG. No class has a predefined role. Stop trolling.

    the templar is the only one that has.

    none the less the ability bias of ZOS against templar (magica)class skills needs to be overcome by ZOS.
    spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused

    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


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