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What do you think will be the next templar generic nerf?
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We all know that non-healing Templars are the ZOS whipping boys. When the nerf darts come out, they play pin the nerf on Templar.
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What do you think will be the next templar generic nerf? 25 votes
Eclipse - This power provides a neat, blinding visual effect for the caster. Does absolutely nothing else.
12%
3 votes
Radiant Destruction - Introduction of inverse crit bug, causing damage to be reduced by your crit damage.
16%
4 votes
Nova - Skill reworked into Black Hole. Inability to properly code a Black Hole leads to this skill doing nothing.
12%
3 votes
Puncturing Jabs - Renamed to Puncturing Jab, this skill now only hits once.
36%
9 votes
Sun Shield - Remove shield component. WAI.
24%
6 votes
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✭✭I don't know what to pick...
Eclipse sucks.
Nova costs too much ulti.
I don't see why they'd further nerf Puncturing Sweep/Jabs, since a simple immobilization by a smart enemy who also walks -through/in- you as you try to channel the jab at them, causing it to be very unreliable as you can't turn to face your enemy while they spam Talons on you, unless you keep breaking out of it, bla bla bla - and not to mention the fact that we can be CC'd while in mid-air; toppling-charging a target...
They'll probably nerf our healing next.
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✭✭✭✭✭Next nerf? Removal of Templar class
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Yeah, still waiting/hoping for this change I recommended in the old dev forums thread about fixing Templars...CrowsDescend wrote: »I don't know what to pick...
Eclipse sucks.Reclassify Eclipse and its morphs as non-CC abilities that cannot be removed by Break Free. They could still be cleansed/purged. Increase the damage for Unstable Core by an extra 50%. Failing that, triple the damage done by the base ability and morphs when someone breaks out and gains CC immunity to make up for wasting magicka in order to give them instant CC immunity. Make them choose real damage or waiting it out.❤Experienced, new, returner?❤ Help keep ESO's community strong ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ -- share what you love about the game, offer constructive feedback, and make friends.ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ
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Shelgon✭✭✭✭Eclipse will only be cast-able on NPCs
Radiant Destruction now executes yourself
Nova now increases damage done to you
Puncturing jab is now a one shot but it has a .0001 x 500 meter rectangular range
Sun shield gets scaled to magicka, but the size begins to decrease the as your magicka increases.V16 Templar - Shelgon - DC
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✭They will halve the damage per tick by Radiant Destruction but double the channel time, because of performance reasons.2 -
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✭Yeah, saw that sneaky little nerf, asses. I haven't had a chance to log on to see how bad it is yet, any Templars out there checked their DPS yet? I had just got my single target above 10K (what I feel is the absolute minimum needed for the elite content parts of the game) and then bam, you been nerfed.....NA PC | AD
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MMMBELD✭Pfft! Biased poll as it does not include the (re) broken charge, which should be changed to keep you in a Groundhog Day style time loop, rendering your character uncontrollable for 60 seconds as your life flashes before your eyes, allowing you to reflect on all of the poor decisions you have made throughout the course of your life.
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✭Radiant Destruction - Introduction of inverse crit bug, causing damage to be reduced by your crit damage.The next Templar Nerf will actually be Breath of Life.....50% healing reduction in Cyro...Pffft, you can steal heal with BoL so it will be nerfed....
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✭✭✭✭✭Nova - Skill reworked into Black Hole. Inability to properly code a Black Hole leads to this skill doing nothing.In fairness to ZOS, I don't think science has enough data for even the likes of Stephen Hawking to properly code a black hole.
At best we could simulate it's external effects. But what happens beyond the event horizon?
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robkrush✭✭✭✭✭My God, will someone please post a "how to play templar" guide so these guys quit this circle jerking. Templars are plenty strong right now. Not OP, unless in the right hands (like every class), but plenty strong to hold their own.PS4-NA-DC
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✭✭My God, will someone please post a "how to play templar" guide so these guys quit this circle jerking. Templars are plenty strong right now. Not OP, unless in the right hands (like every class), but plenty strong to hold their own.
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✭✭✭✭Puncturing Jabs - Renamed to Puncturing Jab, this skill now only hits once.I have been waiting for the repentance nerf.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭✭✭Eclipse - This power provides a neat, blinding visual effect for the caster. Does absolutely nothing else.In fairness to ZOS, I don't think science has enough data for even the likes of Stephen Hawking to properly code a black hole.
At best we could simulate it's external effects. But what happens beyond the event horizon?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Character deletion perhaps? Would balance Templars TBH.0331
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✭✭✭Eclipse - This power provides a neat, blinding visual effect for the caster. Does absolutely nothing else.timidobserver wrote: »I have been waiting for the repentance nerf.
*Repentance - Now summons an Aedric priest to provide words of encouragement to your team.
*Removed all children and likeness to children from the game.0331
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Yeah, it seemed like a humor thing to me. But I really do wish they would fix Eclipse. It is a fun skillCrowsDescend wrote: »My God, will someone please post a "how to play templar" guide so these guys quit this circle jerking. Templars are plenty strong right now. Not OP, unless in the right hands (like every class), but plenty strong to hold their own.
Where did the passively-aggressive "L2P" attitude come from? nobody said "Help, I can't play Templar's now." Simply mocking random nerfs, nothing too serious, I don't see any QQ.
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✭Radiant Destruction - Introduction of inverse crit bug, causing damage to be reduced by your crit damage.My God, will someone please post a "how to play templar" guide so these guys quit this circle jerking. Templars are plenty strong right now. Not OP, unless in the right hands (like every class), but plenty strong to hold their own.
What an arrogance. I've played Templar only since March 2014, I've developed my way to play Templar out of sheer necessity. Are you seriously thinking yet another completely unmotivated nerf to one of the core Templar skills has higher priority than fixing all the numerous bugs still plaguing the Templar skills? "How to play a templar"? Really? Do you think @Joy_Division is circle jerking in regards to that the "Blazing Spear was most certainly not doing more damage than intended" before this latest nerf to it?
Edit* link to mentioned quote.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2481109/#Comment_2481109Edited by Idinuse on November 30, 2015 9:58PMSed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?0 -
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✭✭Puncturing Jabs - Renamed to Puncturing Jab, this skill now only hits once.Patch notes the week after the puncturing jabs nerf:
Puncturing Jab:
Reduced damage (we won't tell you by how much though) since the jab was doing more damage than intended.
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✭Pfft! Biased poll as it does not include the (re) broken charge, which should be changed to keep you in a Groundhog Day style time loop, rendering your character uncontrollable for 60 seconds as your life flashes before your eyes, allowing you to reflect on all of the poor decisions you have made throughout the course of your life.
Rename it existential toppling charge. Smoke a cigarette and pour a glass of cheap wine while you ponder it's meaning.
This *** made me laugh so hard. Thank you!
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WolfingHour✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »I have been waiting for the repentance nerf.
The animation for this skill has been reworked - you will stay in a casting animation for a length of time proportional to the amount of stamina returned.
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✭✭✭Eclipse - This power provides a neat, blinding visual effect for the caster. Does absolutely nothing else.WolfingHour wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »I have been waiting for the repentance nerf.
The animation for this skill has been reworked - you will stay in a casting animation for a length of time proportional to the amount of stamina returned.
Because of immersion. And server stability.
Well, you have to provide the Aedric blessing to every single dead mob individually like a proper priest. Else how do they repent?
Realism.0331
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radiant destruction is already bugged and doesnt work properly half the time
nova already got nerfed and DOES cost way too much ulti to start off with, its only useful in PvE if you dont really need an ulti anyway.
puncturing jabs just got nerfed
Which leaves sun shield which actually still works decently, low cost, decent shield (very effective in PvE, somewhat useful in PvP) - so its definitly the one getting nerfed next. Probably going to end up only protecting vs magicka OR stam or will no longer protect at all, just burst at end to do dmg.0 -
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✭Radiant Destruction - Introduction of inverse crit bug, causing damage to be reduced by your crit damage.usmcjdking wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »I have been waiting for the repentance nerf.
The animation for this skill has been reworked - you will stay in a casting animation for a length of time proportional to the amount of stamina returned.
Because of immersion. And server stability.
Well, you have to provide the Aedric blessing to every single dead mob individually like a proper priest. Else how do they repent?
Realism.
And you have to do it before they actually die, you're expected to anticipate which enemies are close to death and pre cast it. As intended.Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?0 -
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✭Sun Shield - Remove shield component. WAI.You did see patch note from they nerfed blazing spear damage. Does very little damage to begin with. Unbelievable.
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✭Sun Shield - Remove shield component. WAI.Ok, there's already no shield component really. But that last silver of 3k Sun Shield in PvP needs to go.
Also looking forward to next major patch. Unpurgable snare + heal debuff spam on templars without any mobility, broken gap closer, no working shield, cant avoid the siege rain. Will be fun. Sitting duck for life, perma snared and heal debuffed stuck in red circles with no tools to get the hell out. Because I doubt Purifying Ritual will do *** all.1 -
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I don't mind the siege change so much if it affects only Purge, which is instant cast/requires no synergy to click. Would prefer it didn't affect Dark Cloak and Cleansing Ritual. The former is single target/caster only, the latter has synergy to activate.Ok, there's already no shield component really. But that last silver of 3k Sun Shield in PvP needs to go.
Also looking forward to next major patch. Unpurgable snare + heal debuff spam on templars without any mobility, broken gap closer, no working shield, cant avoid the siege rain. Will be fun. Sitting duck for life, perma snared and heal debuffed stuck in red circles with no tools to get the hell out. Because I doubt Purifying Ritual will do *** all.
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