The Barber Shop is done. The Ignored Community Input is Here:

Kuroinu · October 2015

Sidney wrote: »

How are the dyeable tail ribbons coming along?

Oh wow your post so fabulous!

To answer your question...

Soon™

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Frawr · October 2015

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

In terms of Barbershop implementation,

I think that it would be truly epic if there were a player skill line which was levelled by giving people makeovers. You could start off by changing a few things like hair-styles and end up with full blown body alterations including height, weight, beards, piercings, eye colour etc etc

And, if there were loads of new additional options on top of the choices on char creation, this would be even more awesome - give people a reason to do it!

Kicker - you can only do it to someone else - to encourage a bit of interdependency

Gidorick · October 2015

Frawr wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

In terms of Barbershop implementation,

I think that it would be truly epic if there were a player skill line which was levelled by giving people makeovers. You could start off by changing a few things like hair-styles and end up with full blown body alterations, beards, piercings etc etc

And, if there were loads of new additional options on top of the choices on char creation, this would be even more awesome - give people a reason to do it!

Kicker - you can only do it to someone else - to encourage a bit of interdependency

OMG YES!!!! They could still make money by having people buy hairstyles they want in the Crown Store so the "barber" player would have access to the "customer's" available styles. Then there would be special styles that were dependent on the skill (level) of the barber. So if a player wanted a specific style, they might have to hunt down a barber of a particular skill to get it applied to their character.

Love it!

Aelthwyn · October 2015

Frawr wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

In terms of Barbershop implementation,

I think that it would be truly epic if there were a player skill line which was levelled by giving people makeovers. You could start off by changing a few things like hair-styles and end up with full blown body alterations including height, weight, beards, piercings, eye colour etc etc

And, if there were loads of new additional options on top of the choices on char creation, this would be even more awesome - give people a reason to do it!

Kicker - you can only do it to someone else - to encourage a bit of interdependency

Oh PLEASE NOOOOOOOOO this is not pixie hollow fashion boutique or the like, I don't want to level up my beautician skill in this game. I want to smash worm-cultist heads, not play 'girls night' in a fantasy game of this kind. To me... this would truly be throwing the game way off course (and kind of down the toilet). Please I beg of you NO. This has to be a joke doesn't it? please tell me it is.

And there is absolutely NO WAY I am entrusting my character's appearance to some other player. I would NEVER use such a feature. I would never dare try to redo someone else's character either, beauty is Way too subjective for that, it would be a nightmare. No No No No No No No No No - how many times can I say NO. Oh Gods NO!

Mettaricana · October 2015

Make recustomize happen in game not login screen the ligthing sucks so bad in The prison and you end up uglier than you thought ingame.

Frawr · October 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

Frawr wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

In terms of Barbershop implementation,

I think that it would be truly epic if there were a player skill line which was levelled by giving people makeovers. You could start off by changing a few things like hair-styles and end up with full blown body alterations, beards, piercings etc etc

And, if there were loads of new additional options on top of the choices on char creation, this would be even more awesome - give people a reason to do it!

Kicker - you can only do it to someone else - to encourage a bit of interdependency

OMG YES!!!! They could still make money by having people buy hairstyles they want in the Crown Store so the "barber" player would have access to the "customer's" available styles. Then there would be special styles that were dependent on the skill (level) of the barber. So if a player wanted a specific style, they might have to hunt down a barber of a particular skill to get it applied to their character.

Love it!

Yeah they could do that - add an extra pack of changes

- extra foot difference in height both ways
- longer longer hair
- more extreme alterations to all facial angles

Conquistador · October 2015

[snip] I don't want a gold sink or a freaking crownstore style store.

[edited for profanity bypass]

Frawr · October 2015

Conquistador wrote: »

[snip] I don't want a gold sink or a freaking crownstore style store.

what do you want?
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Gidorick · October 2015

Frawr wrote: »

Conquistador wrote: »

[snip] I don't want a gold sink or a freaking crownstore style store.

what do you want?

I guess for it to just be completely free to use.

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eNumbra · October 2015

Frawr wrote: »

Conquistador wrote: »

[snip] I don't want a gold sink or a freaking crownstore style store.

what do you want?

Skyrim 2.0
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TheShadowScout · October 2015

Frawr wrote: »

I think that it would be truly epic if there were a player skill line which was levelled by giving people makeovers.

I can imagine it now... defeat someone in cyrodil, give them a makeover, and they respawn with pink lipstick, heavy makeup and violet anime hair... they wouldn't be able to show their face in a nord bar again!

Oh, you meant makeovers by voluntary request? Curses, there goes that idea...

Gidorick wrote: »

Frawr wrote: »

what do you want?

I guess for it to just be completely free to use.

That's how the gimme crowd usually whines. And if the game had stayed subscription powered, that might have been how it could have gone.
But alas, this ship has sailed and sunk a while ago...

Right now, the best we can hope for is that half of it will be gold sink, and the other half crown store, instead of all crown powered.

ConcreteOrc · October 2015

I don't care if it's via Crown Store or gold; I just want it to be robust with loads of new options. it would be quite a disappointment to have it be only a few hairstyles and beard options. They have the character creation already coded so I'm not sure why it hasn't been implemented with a barber shop yet. They know everybody wants it so I'm just wondering what is the deal...

Asherons_Call · October 2015

1. *** rings
2. Roy Orbison tattoos

revonine · October 2015

In this proposed barber shop there HAS to be ways to adjust lighting and different backgrounds to flip through so we can get a proper idea of what our character will look like in game.

DEADhorizon · November 2015

Let's get this barber shop in next update! Cmon guys it's been long enough.

VerboseQuips · November 2015

Some hair styles and body adornment could be unlocked by achievements.

Also... Well, this is an idea I have been toying with since the introduction of the concept of Flesh Magic in Skyrim.

Why not using the alteration of the character's appearance as a game mechanics. There could be special Barber Shops within the Thieves Guild, the Dark Brotherhood, the Ring of Daggers (with the the Hollow-Faced Men of the Nohotogrha oasis?), the Eyes of the Queen (in the Faculty of Chirurgeons of Cloudrest?), and the Hidden Armigers (A Tribunal-aligned Dreugh flesh mage somewhere in Morrowind?), where you could not only modify your appearance but in fact, create an alias for your character. It would act as a permanent disguise (unless you betray yourself during a dialogue, which could cause both identities to collapse), and the crimes committed under an alias aren't attributed to your official identity (unless you get burned). Conversely, the fame you could have acquired under your official identity and the services it may have unlocked (notably among guilds) wouldn't be offered to an alias, except maybe by the few who would know about it.

Vampires wouldn't be able to use conventional Flesh Magic.

This could even be used as a non-immersion breaking way to go from one alliance to another.

Nikkor · November 2015

need to be able to change entire character model. height shape size hair and everything.

a race change would be great too. Maybe only allow players to switch once or twice per character ever. or once per month or something to keep people from switching races constantly.

temjiu · November 2015

Adding my support for this iteration of the idea.

I'm also in support of more options in the crown store, perhaps even sets of hairstyles (early falinesti summer styles, in the store today!)

We also need to have those improvements in the details category as well. I hate that I have to have that rugged beard thing with my eyepatch. eyepatch should be a flexible option with any beard combination. IMO there should be multiple categories:

- beards and moustaches
- tatoos
- adornments (jewelry)
- scars

at a bare minimum. each one of those is different, and needs its own category, as well as "layer" so we can mix and match. usually for most "salons" in the games i play, the more "layers" you add during the stylist visit, the more it costs coin/currency.

these categories need to be in the main screen as well please. I have no issues with special hairstyles and looks coming from the crown shop, but the initial character creation is a bit muddled and primitive in these aspects, that they should be default from the get go.

Holycannoli · November 2015

Barbershop doesn't have to cost much at all. STO has a tailor where you can change your outfits as you please, even entirely change your face and body. The cost is extremely low if changing body dimensions and free if just changing outfits (unless those outfits are cash shop).

newtinmpls · November 2015

JackalWynter wrote: »

Shouldn't be able to change appearance beyond hair / adornments.

I'd go for adding scars.

newtinmpls · November 2015

Stranglehands wrote: »

one thing that's definitely missing in eso is cool punky hairstyles for dunmer. as far as i'm concerned morrowind should look like a cross between burning man and the future world from david bowie's diamond dogs and everyone should have weird clothes and crazy assed hairstyles

Think of Morrowind .. there should be a LOT more facial tattoo options for dunmer

Dear · November 2015

I just want some long flowing curly twin tails that don't look like they belong on a preteen...

Or some other kind of curly or ornate hairstyles...
The ones we have look nasty- like the person hasn't had a bath...

AngryNord · November 2015

I want some ponytail hairstyles that don't either look girly, or like a samurai.

Dear · November 2015

revonine wrote: »

In this proposed barber shop there HAS to be ways to adjust lighting and different backgrounds to flip through so we can get a proper idea of what our character will look like in game.

^ THIS.

Blutengel wrote: »

As long as we don't get something g crazy or lore breaking its all good. Don't need bright pink hair chick riding her frost horse naked around the world.

*Sweatdrops intensify* WHY NOT? *shifty eyes*

TX12001rwb17_ESO · November 2015

As long as a vampire player can change their appearance without having to become a weak mortal again like in Skyrim then I will be happy.

altemriel · November 2015

I am definitelly for in-game gold using barber shop, at least standard hair styles, color change, hair lenght enhance and crown store for specials

MornaBaine · November 2015

ConcreteOrc wrote: »

I don't care if it's via Crown Store or gold; I just want it to be robust with loads of new options. it would be quite a disappointment to have it be only a few hairstyles and beard options. They have the character creation already coded so I'm not sure why it hasn't been implemented with a barber shop yet. They know everybody wants it so I'm just wondering what is the deal...

So all of this. There are SO MANY THINGS ZOS could be making a metric frak-ton of $$$ on that would actually be very easy for them to implement... yet none of those things seem to be on their agenda. Completely baffling.

MornaBaine · November 2015

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

As long as a vampire player can change their appearance without having to become a weak mortal again like in Skyrim then I will be happy.

Agreed! Please feel free to chime in here on that topic:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/224761/zos-there-are-only-2-things-i-still-want-you-to-do-for-vampires/p1

altemriel · November 2015

MornaBaine wrote: »

ConcreteOrc wrote: »

I don't care if it's via Crown Store or gold; I just want it to be robust with loads of new options. it would be quite a disappointment to have it be only a few hairstyles and beard options. They have the character creation already coded so I'm not sure why it hasn't been implemented with a barber shop yet. They know everybody wants it so I'm just wondering what is the deal...

So all of this. There are SO MANY THINGS ZOS could be making a metric frak-ton of $$$ on that would actually be very easy for them to implement... yet none of those things seem to be on their agenda. Completely baffling.

Or maybe better to say, there are probably so many things on their agenda, that the new things that people propose are getting into implementing very very slow

MornaBaine · November 2015

altemriel wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

ConcreteOrc wrote: »

I don't care if it's via Crown Store or gold; I just want it to be robust with loads of new options. it would be quite a disappointment to have it be only a few hairstyles and beard options. They have the character creation already coded so I'm not sure why it hasn't been implemented with a barber shop yet. They know everybody wants it so I'm just wondering what is the deal...

So all of this. There are SO MANY THINGS ZOS could be making a metric frak-ton of $$$ on that would actually be very easy for them to implement... yet none of those things seem to be on their agenda. Completely baffling.

Or maybe better to say, there are probably so many things on their agenda, that the new things that people propose are getting into implementing very very slow

Perhaps. But seriously, there's a whole GIANT thread ZOS themselves made asking people what sorts of things they want in the Crown Store and precious few of them have been done. Many requests for polymorphs and skins that would be super easy for them to do. The whole "change your character" thing...code is already there so why isn't that a thing yet since players have been begging for it since launch?