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Vet Rank 18

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I have seen a few threads discussing whether or not this will be coming with next DLC. Is this something that is being implemented or is 16 the last increase we will see before removal of vet ranks?
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  • Faunter
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    As far as I know, ZOS has not commented on another increase of veteran ranks. There was, however, an achievement in Orsinium on the PTS which required you to translate the Veteran Rank 17 and 18 Potency Runes, but it was removed. I think it was in the patch notes. Let me see if I can find it...

    Edit: It was in the 2.2.1 Patch Notes.
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  • Alcast
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    They already wanted to release v18 with orsinium, but did not bc of too much QQ. It will come 100% with the next DLC.

    But remember, they will remove Vet ranks eventually at some point ;)
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  • DanielWinterborn
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    Please for the love of all that is good and nice and sexy add more Vet levels! I want to reach Vet50 one day...take that noobs :hushed:
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  • zornyan
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    Zos stated no more vet ranks are planned, and that their main focus is removing them, they have said next year, but that's it, they are sticking more to their time schedules now and I tend to listen to them, rather than what some random person on Wikipedia has shown.

    The orsinium BUG was just that, a bug that had emerged, from possible a year or so ago PTS as a place saver, before vet ranks were even being talked about.
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  • Shader_Shibes
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    I'd be surprised if they increased the ranks again. With all the QQ going on when v16 was announced, along with the insane jump in materials needed for v16 gear, i'm hoping ZOS stick to their word and don't increase ANY more.
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  • Diozaels
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    The problem isn't vet ranks, it's the boring grind to the max rank. Going through the main story of each faction should theoritically make your character lvl 150 if they went with levels instead of VR. I still wish Coldharbor was a bigger zone/ expansion within itself.

    I would personally like if leveling through straight pvp would be more feesible, but without battlegrounds cyrodiil just ends up being one big horse riding simulator.

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  • Dark_Aether
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    V18 coming with next dlc. You'll need 550 mats to craft 1 gear and you only get 1 mat from decon epic v18 item which drop once out of every 500 dungeon runs
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  • Peekachu99
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    They can just up the CP cap. They need to watch the power creep before it gets out of control.
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  • Shadesofkin
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    A possible increase to 18 was mentioned in an ESO live at one point, but it wasn't confirmed for any specific date.
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  • Elijah_Crow
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    Vet rank removal has been planned for after Orsinium. I would expect that the removal of all vet ranks will coincide with the release of the thieves guild DLC.
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  • Artjuh90
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    well there used to be post of the removal of the vet system with orsinium so i will just patiently wait
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  • Ra'Shtar
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    I'm over 100% sure that VR18 will not be coming with the Thieves Guild DLC, there are many people out there who just got their vr16 gear with the launch of Orsinium. The real question is what new crafted sets are coming with the next DLC, i hope there is a new set oriented for healers we haven't got one in for ever and i like to choose my style (go fashion)
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  • dday3six
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    Alcast wrote: »
    They already wanted to release v18 with orsinium, but did not bc of too much QQ. It will come 100% with the next DLC.

    But remember, they will remove Vet ranks eventually at some point ;)

    I'm a bit worried that will be the case. I wish ZOS would figure out how to extent the game's life with content rather then just a gear grind...
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  • Dymence
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    Vet rank removal has been planned for after Orsinium. I would expect that the removal of all vet ranks will coincide with the release of the thieves guild DLC.

    I wouldn't bet on it. Last they said was "we're removing veteran ranks later next year".

    They shouldn't even remove veteran ranks to begin with. It's just plain stupid.
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  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    They need Vet ranks to steal all of our gear again and FORCE us to buy the next DLC and grind it back. Of course, it would be easier to just include re-playable content but they would rather we spend our precious gaming time meaninglessly grinding.
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  • TheShadowScout
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    Who knows how they will deal with all of it?

    Yeah, they announced veteran ranks will eventually be removed, and everyone will be level 50... Not sure how they plan on keeping the game on track then, gear-wise, but... we'll just see.

    Might be they will add V18 as another interim measure while they are tinkering on a working veteran-rank-less system. I wouldn't mind at all, with the latest XP cost reduction, getting to V16 is easy enough... as long as they give us enough content to take us there, be it as it may.
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Alcast wrote: »
    They already wanted to release v18 with orsinium, but did not bc of too much QQ. It will come 100% with the next DLC.

    But remember, they will remove Vet ranks eventually at some point ;)

    Judging from your trollish comment there I suppose you would not be upset if what you worked so hard for in IC was immediately trumped due to raising the VR cap? No one QQed about anything, Zenimax merely recognizes the inconvenience of the fact.

    As for raising the VR cap, perhaps they can enlighten us on the next live? They may wait a couple DLCs to let things stick around though.
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  • Islyn
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    I'd be surprised if they increased the ranks again. With all the QQ going on when v16 was announced, along with the insane jump in materials needed for v16 gear, i'm hoping ZOS stick to their word and don't increase ANY more.

    I'd lmao. Not even kidding.
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  • AbraXuSeXile
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    No more useless VR ranks... It's pointless.

    Stop this carrot on a stick nonsense.
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  • FizzOnly
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    i bet 20k it will come with new dlc
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  • Zlater
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    Look I'll be honest, I really think Zos will do something like release vr17 & 18. Reduce the exp required again, exactly as they did with Vr16. Wait a patch or 2 maybe drop exp gains for veteran levels a bit more. Then remove the vet system and introduce lvl70 and lower the exp required one last time. After that it will just be tidy up patches to get the rest of the sets to lvl68 and lvl70 depending on the 5-piece bonus ofc. This would also fit the observable approach that zos have to fixing things in general lol.

    Redfur members were sponsoring some research by one of our members on exp lvl requirements a little while ago. The research was never 100% completed, but we gathered a huge amount of data and enough to identify some very distinguishable trends in exp required for various levels. A plan like this would very much fit their current leveling setup and if they implement it like this they could do it almost seamlessly without having to somehow force all of the other systems to comply. And it could mostly be done ahead of time with some simple re-writes of rank identifiers for things like spell cost, roll dodge cost and gear level.

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  • Divinius
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    Is there an official wager going on what Vet Rank we will get to before they "remove" them?

    If so, what's the over/under? I'm assuming VR20 at least, right?
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  • Lavum
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    Alcast wrote: »
    They already wanted to release v18 with orsinium, but did not bc of too much QQ. It will come 100% with the next DLC.

    But remember, they will remove Vet ranks eventually at some point ;)

    I remember them saying in a Podcast (I do believe) that the Vet ranks won't increase again for another year or so, if at all. I have been known to be wrong tho LOL
    Edited by Lavum on November 18, 2015 1:40PM
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  • PC0523
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    Interesting thread, this makes me wonder...

    Should I use my legendary tempers that I've been saving since since level 1, or hold them for the next max level increase?

    It's taken me forever to gather these legendary tempers, and I almost have enough to upgrade all my purple gear to gold.
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  • Rayste
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    Having pondered it some more, I don't think they will up the vet rank again. They didn't do it with orsinium because of the overwhelming negativity surrounding it.

    That said, I really don't see the point in wasting tons of resources removing vet ranks. Just reduce the amount of xp it takes for each vet rank to like 100k per level.
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  • Ezareth
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    If they raise it to VR18 I'll be pissed.

    Having to refarm those stupid undaunted sets every time they raise it along with deprecating the majority of your flavor sets and gear is BS. If they do increase it then they better add some way to improve the Vet level of your gear at the same time.
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  • ZOS_RichLambert
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    We're not raising the VR level for Thieves Guild.
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    We're not raising the VR level for Thieves Guild.

    What about the other content that is coming since that was a very specific statement
    Edited by Kelleton on November 18, 2015 11:08PM
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  • Tors
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    We're not raising the VR level for Thieves Guild.



    Maybe after :)
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  • ZOS_RichLambert
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    Stop trying to find hidden meanings. We're not raising the VR cap.... yeesh. :D
    Edited by ZOS_RichLambert on November 18, 2015 11:12PM
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