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Poll: BOP, drop rates, casuals and catch up for newbies.
hrothbern
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For new gear the drop rates need much grinding, the BOP cannot be sold and the community segregates between profi's and casuals. Catch up for newbies to get these items is an empty phrase.
I heartily grant the diehards an advantage in power and status to be the first to have them. But my suggestion is that this should should expire within the time frame of 1-2 new DLC's.
After every DLC/3 months the drop rate of the items of the last DLC goes up substantially (with 100% or so).
After every next DLC/3 months, so after 6 months, the BOP items become BoE (also the collected items!).
By that the casuals and newbies have 3-6 months delay and economy takes place in a normal way.
Edited by hrothbern on November 18, 2015 7:14PM I heartily grant the diehards an advantage in power and status to be the first to have them. But my suggestion is that this should should expire within the time frame of 1-2 new DLC's.
After every DLC/3 months the drop rate of the items of the last DLC goes up substantially (with 100% or so).
After every next DLC/3 months, so after 6 months, the BOP items become BoE (also the collected items!).
By that the casuals and newbies have 3-6 months delay and economy takes place in a normal way.
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Poll: BOP, drop rates, casuals and catch up for newbies. 105 votes
No, BOP items should be made BoE right away.
60%
63 votes
Yes, but 6 months is too slow
8%
9 votes
Yes
5%
6 votes
Yes, but 6 months is too fast
0%
1 vote
I don't care
11%
12 votes
Other
13%
14 votes
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Kelleton✭✭✭It doesn't really matter - the drop rate is so high anyone really trying to get the gear will get it very quickly0 -
laksikus✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, BOP items should be made BoE right away.It doesn't really matter - the drop rate is so high anyone really trying to get the gear will get it very quickly
rly? so you got your molag kena/scathing/overwhelming/monster helmet/mealstrom weapon/anything else
with right trait after only some tries?3 -
Kelleton✭✭✭
It doesn't take long..but then again I was a vanilla EQ player where stuff would literally take 6 months to get..a lot of people I run with are fully geared already. Its very fast,especially since the new patch is less than a month old. U can run it as many times u need to a day to get your stuff. If you want to BOE these items then you need to create a lockout so once u do it for the week u cant do it again so that people don't flood the market the first couple weeks. The content becomes irrelevant.Edited by Kelleton on November 18, 2015 9:38PM1 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, BOP items should be made BoE right away.
It doesn't take long..but then again I was a vanilla EQ player where stuff would literally take 6 months to get..a lot of people I run with are fully geared already. Its very fast,especially since the new patch is less than a month old. U can run it as many times u need to a day to get your stuff. If you want to BOE these items then you need to create a lockout so once u do it for the week u cant do it again so that people don't flood the market the first couple weeks. The content becomes irrelevant.
LOL.
I love how people think that gearing up in less than a month is somehow a bad thing.
First, not everyone has the time to run the content over and over again for hours a day to gear up.
Second, if the only reason you are running the content is because you're chasing that RNG gear carrot and not because it's entertaining, then maybe there's a bigger, more fundamental problem, hm?Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It doesn't really matter - the drop rate is so high anyone really trying to get the gear will get it very quickly
On the one hand, I've been playing a large number of hours, large number of characters since about 2 months after PC release, and still sub and my highest character is vet5, and have not yet successfully run a vet undaunted.
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Kelleton✭✭✭
It doesn't take long..but then again I was a vanilla EQ player where stuff would literally take 6 months to get..a lot of people I run with are fully geared already. Its very fast,especially since the new patch is less than a month old. U can run it as many times u need to a day to get your stuff. If you want to BOE these items then you need to create a lockout so once u do it for the week u cant do it again so that people don't flood the market the first couple weeks. The content becomes irrelevant.
LOL.
I love how people think that gearing up in less than a month is somehow a bad thing.
First, not everyone has the time to run the content over and over again for hours a day to gear up.
Second, if the only reason you are running the content is because you're chasing that RNG gear carrot and not because it's entertaining, then maybe there's a bigger, more fundamental problem, hm?
You are also making a lot of assumptions about my play style that are not relevant. Who said Im doing it for that RNG carrot? Maybe I am running it with friends? Maybe Im running it with different toons? Maybe Im just happy to play with a new toy?
I also find it funny that people want to get fully geared in less than a month, have nothing to strive for and complain that they have nothing to do in the game.
Pick and choose...have something to aim for in the game or don't...I prefer the having something to aim for.Edited by Kelleton on November 19, 2015 1:18AM1 -
Decado✭✭✭✭It doesn't really matter - the drop rate is so high anyone really trying to get the gear will get it very quickly
That's just not true, if the RNG gods hate you then nothing you can do, I tried farming scathing/overwhelming/ spell power cure, probably got in 2 WGT and 2 ICP runs a day more on some days and to this day I have 1 piece scathing(reinforced trait) 2 piece overwhelming(including a lovely well fitted shoes) and 2 spell power cure(including a shoulder piece)
I ran this from the start of IC DLC until just after orsinium when I decided too go for crafted instead,
Now if I had been farming essence thief I could gear up every character I could ever make or consider making lol
The problem with the RNG as it is is that you could never get the piece you want,
i was really happy with the trophy/vault system thinking finally after a certain amount of work im atleast guranteed some set piece until it was always the useless sets and never the good ones that dropped from it.
I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it again, I gear to play not play to gear.Edited by Decado on November 19, 2015 1:35AM0 -
Jura23✭✭✭✭✭
✭There are still good craftable sets for every class and build, so this is not so huge problem. I don't like grinding dropped sets too, so I just play and see what I get my hands on. I don't feel any pressure to get all new sets asap.Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU2 -
Geemarc✭✭✭OtherI do not believe all items should be changed from BoP to BoE. There should always be items people need to work for and items that can be bought and sold. A good balance is needed, IC had way to many BoP sets.
If they keep increasing level caps then your proposed system would never work as the items would be obsolete as they could be sold.
I do think that RnG needs to be replaced with a token system that allows people to choose their items which gives you a target to work towards. It took me over 150 runs to get my first v 16 Engine Guardian helm, so many people that it grouped with that got it much quicker (one guy got 3 helms in his first 4 runs). With 10% drop chance, 1:3 armor type, then 1:8 traits the chances of getting the helm you want is ridiculously low.Edited by Geemarc on November 19, 2015 11:33AM3 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, BOP items should be made BoE right away.
It doesn't take long..but then again I was a vanilla EQ player where stuff would literally take 6 months to get..a lot of people I run with are fully geared already. Its very fast,especially since the new patch is less than a month old. U can run it as many times u need to a day to get your stuff. If you want to BOE these items then you need to create a lockout so once u do it for the week u cant do it again so that people don't flood the market the first couple weeks. The content becomes irrelevant.
LOL.
I love how people think that gearing up in less than a month is somehow a bad thing.
First, not everyone has the time to run the content over and over again for hours a day to gear up.
Second, if the only reason you are running the content is because you're chasing that RNG gear carrot and not because it's entertaining, then maybe there's a bigger, more fundamental problem, hm?
You are also making a lot of assumptions about my play style that are not relevant. Who said Im doing it for that RNG carrot? Maybe I am running it with friends? Maybe Im running it with different toons? Maybe Im just happy to play with a new toy?
I also find it funny that people want to get fully geared in less than a month, have nothing to strive for and complain that they have nothing to do in the game.
Pick and choose...have something to aim for in the game or don't...I prefer the having something to aim for.
You have this notion that gearing up is somehow the game--that it's the end. For many players, it's not. It's a means to an end, not the end goal itself.
There are a lot of players (PvP, particularly, but many PvE players too) who don't play for the stat/gear progression. They play for fun or for progression in their player skill. For players like us, gearing up or leveling up is a chore. It's something that we have to grind through so that we can start enjoying the endgame content.
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- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
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Spearshard✭✭✭✭Yes, but 6 months is too slowActually @Kelleton you're kinda making an assumption that end game gear risk the thing everyone wants to strive for. And sure some people use that as a goal, but a lot of people, myself included, see it as the goal to get past in order to enjoy end game stuff. Now I fullyrics agree that the idea of bop for master weapons, but the majority of equipment was boe, even the most desired sets. Some of this stuff that you claim is soo easy to get isn't necessarily so. Sure agility, endurance sets, piece of cake. I've been chasing nerien for 3 months, not one sign, not even a bad piece. And I didn't even bother with the imperial city sets. A lot of people are just frustrated because we'd rather pvp or do something else with our time instead of the same grind trying to even just get a bad piece of a set we want.0
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daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OtherI don't think making them all BoE right away is the way to go (it would flood the stores and do away with any sense of accomplishment).
That said, either the drop rate needs to be increased or there must be a way for party members to trade set pieces among themselves. Reasons for this:
- It makes no sense to grind a dungeon/boss/daily 200 times and still not get the gear you're after, or only get it with lousy traits. It's just frustrating.
- By the time Orsinium came out with new sets, I still didn't have a single complete IC dropped set. I still don't have one with perfect traits. And I play A LOT, so I can only imagine the position of someone who doesn't play as much. In short, I as someone who plays long hours, feel I'm playing catch-up with regard to new sets, still chasing the ones from the previous DLC.
- Allowing in-dungeon trade keeps the sets within the universe of players who do the content, but allows them better to distribute the lot. I don't need another Overwhelming Gloves, yet I've never ever laid eyes on a sash. Someone who only tanks can trade his Spell Power Cure drop with a healer who got Imperium. And so on.0 -
Kelces✭✭✭✭✭I don't careit would flood the stores and do away with any sense of accomplishment
This is the core of the problem here. As the words contained in the title "...catch up for newbies" imply - there are players, who are far from so called "end content".
So what are they supposed to think, constitutes an accomplishment? Most would say something like "the endgame" or "max DPS", if they are honest of course. And how do you get there? You got it...
I don't care, people need to get their own idea of success. This is a game, remember?
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starlizard70ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, BOP items should be made BoE right away.Honestly, I just want to be able to sell the pieces I won't use or have too many of , in my guild stores at auto price. That way I won't feel completely screwed when the npc vendors offer to buy them for 20 - 40 gp each.Edited by starlizard70ub17_ESO on November 19, 2015 2:03PM"We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."0 -
Kelleton✭✭✭
It doesn't take long..but then again I was a vanilla EQ player where stuff would literally take 6 months to get..a lot of people I run with are fully geared already. Its very fast,especially since the new patch is less than a month old. U can run it as many times u need to a day to get your stuff. If you want to BOE these items then you need to create a lockout so once u do it for the week u cant do it again so that people don't flood the market the first couple weeks. The content becomes irrelevant.
LOL.
I love how people think that gearing up in less than a month is somehow a bad thing.
First, not everyone has the time to run the content over and over again for hours a day to gear up.
Second, if the only reason you are running the content is because you're chasing that RNG gear carrot and not because it's entertaining, then maybe there's a bigger, more fundamental problem, hm?
You are also making a lot of assumptions about my play style that are not relevant. Who said Im doing it for that RNG carrot? Maybe I am running it with friends? Maybe Im running it with different toons? Maybe Im just happy to play with a new toy?
I also find it funny that people want to get fully geared in less than a month, have nothing to strive for and complain that they have nothing to do in the game.
Pick and choose...have something to aim for in the game or don't...I prefer the having something to aim for.
You have this notion that gearing up is somehow the game--that it's the end. For many players, it's not. It's a means to an end, not the end goal itself.
There are a lot of players (PvP, particularly, but many PvE players too) who don't play for the stat/gear progression. They play for fun or for progression in their player skill. For players like us, gearing up or leveling up is a chore. It's something that we have to grind through so that we can start enjoying the endgame content.
So what you are saying is you want to run dungeons with 0% chance to get something better than you already have? You just want the best gear right away?
That is the difference between me and you, I play the game for the social aspect but enjoy the surprise of getting a new piece of gear that is an upgrade. I don't want to run a dungeon with 0% chance of ever getting something I can use out of it. If you arnt playing for the Stat/Gear progression then you wont care if you have infused on a glove piece rather than divines and your whole argument is a moot point.0 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, BOP items should be made BoE right away.
It doesn't take long..but then again I was a vanilla EQ player where stuff would literally take 6 months to get..a lot of people I run with are fully geared already. Its very fast,especially since the new patch is less than a month old. U can run it as many times u need to a day to get your stuff. If you want to BOE these items then you need to create a lockout so once u do it for the week u cant do it again so that people don't flood the market the first couple weeks. The content becomes irrelevant.
LOL.
I love how people think that gearing up in less than a month is somehow a bad thing.
First, not everyone has the time to run the content over and over again for hours a day to gear up.
Second, if the only reason you are running the content is because you're chasing that RNG gear carrot and not because it's entertaining, then maybe there's a bigger, more fundamental problem, hm?
You are also making a lot of assumptions about my play style that are not relevant. Who said Im doing it for that RNG carrot? Maybe I am running it with friends? Maybe Im running it with different toons? Maybe Im just happy to play with a new toy?
I also find it funny that people want to get fully geared in less than a month, have nothing to strive for and complain that they have nothing to do in the game.
Pick and choose...have something to aim for in the game or don't...I prefer the having something to aim for.
You have this notion that gearing up is somehow the game--that it's the end. For many players, it's not. It's a means to an end, not the end goal itself.
There are a lot of players (PvP, particularly, but many PvE players too) who don't play for the stat/gear progression. They play for fun or for progression in their player skill. For players like us, gearing up or leveling up is a chore. It's something that we have to grind through so that we can start enjoying the endgame content.
So what you are saying is you want to run dungeons with 0% chance to get something better than you already have? You just want the best gear right away?
That is the difference between me and you, I play the game for the social aspect but enjoy the surprise of getting a new piece of gear that is an upgrade. I don't want to run a dungeon with 0% chance of ever getting something I can use out of it. If you arnt playing for the Stat/Gear progression then you wont care if you have infused on a glove piece rather than divines and your whole argument is a moot point.
The corollary here being that you will stop running content once you're geared up?
And yes. For the most part, I already am fully geared up (yes, I did the gear grind) on both of my VR16 toons. Yet I still run vDSA, not because I care about any of the VR14 drops from it, but because I want to see if I can do better than the last time I did it. And because it's fun. I don't care much for the sets from vMA, either (aside from the Maelstrom weapon, but since I'm already using a nice, gold nirnhoned VR16 staff in a style that looks far better than that hideous dwemer Maelstrom style, it's not that big of a deal), but I still bang my head against it because I like the challenge of trying to complete it, and once I complete it, I'll keep running it to try to improve my score and performance.
Frankly, doing the content just for the gear seems awfully bereft of fun.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
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- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
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- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
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eliisra✭✭✭✭✭
✭OtherOption to roll or trade within the group, after downing the boss please. Improved token system that's not rng based. That's what I want.
People running a dungeon 100-200 times in a row and getting literally nothing but same well--fitted helm over and over, it's a joke. It's getting more grindy and frustrating every update, due to more BoP and more grind. Worse loot system I ever experienced and I played MMORPG's for 15 years.
I do feel way more items should be BoE. But dislike this specific idea or how it's presented. Why wait 3-6 months because "newbies" something needs catching up after putting no effort in? Guess who needs catching up even more...the guys that's been grinding crappy rng for 3-6 months and still no drops lol.
Besides, almost every single instance have been made somewhat casual friendly after being out 3-6 months. No excuse to not start farming it.
I say this from experience, being a casual PvE'er myself. I sure as hell couldn't run stuff like vDSA, SO or new IC dungeons, when they came out. My groups got brutally rekt and gave up lol. But after 2-3 nerfs, I got the same chance as the hardcores to clear new content. So the problem isn't that casuals aren't given a chance to catch up, it's the horrible loot/rng systemEdited by eliisra on November 20, 2015 2:11PM0 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, BOP items should be made BoE right away.Return to the early days of ESO where most content was BoE and PvE/PvP players could trade/sell items from their area of the game for others.
Some very select few items maybe still remain as BoP, however every dungeon/PvP set should be BoE so they can actually be used without forcing players into content they don't want to play.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, BOP items should be made BoE right away.In 1.5 I was helping my guildies to farm Valkyn Skoria helmet. As a healer, I got this helmet with infused trait on my first (or second, I cant remember) run... And ofc I didnt even need it. I got much more of them later, but I couldnt even give them away.
Needless to say, that I never got a precise Master resto staff, even though I did a lot of vdsa runs.Though everyone I played with was getting these staves from time to time.
In IC patch, I was farming vWGT... Got a ton of helmets,opened a lot of vaults but only got 1 piece of spell power cure set I wanted, and 2 pieces of overwhelming surge. (and one of those pieces is well-fitted breeches with stamina enchant).
And this is the main problem with BoP: no matter how much effort you put in farming the items you want to get, they may never drop for you. And if you're helping someone to farm helmets/sets, you cannot even give them said items.Edited by LadyNalcarya on November 20, 2015 2:55PMDro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Bazeric✭✭✭✭Wants Briarheart jewelry, 8 pariah shoulders later...
You forgot the 4 Trinimacs breeches. I feel you though. I finally got my 5th Briarheart piece. It is a ring, but my hodgepodge 5pc set is far from optimal. Head, shoulders, chest, feet and a ring and all blue vr15 and I didn't even bother to remember the traits. Each day I become more conflicted about my feelings for this game. All I ever wanted was to run across all of Tameriel and also smash faces in war.Looking for broken things in hopes they may be fixed. I've given up, my game literally works differently from yours.
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Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, BOP items should be made BoE right away.I really do hate BoP.There's no point to it. I have tons of stuff that I cant sell in my guild stores.I have to either deconstruct them,or sell them for pittance! I dont mind doing deconstruct,but when I CHOOSE to. Makes me so mad. I have,in the past,kept them for my alts,but I dont anymore due to them taking up space.But for a few things. It's just sad that I cannot sell or even give them to someone else.0 -
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✭OtherRare things like Monster Sets, Mater/Maelstrom weapons and the like should be BoP, but have either a higher chance of finding them or a token system where you can get the exact one you want.
There should be more reasons to run content than just grinding gear, but rare gear should still be kept by the elite.I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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