ZeniMax Feedback Meeting report, from 16.11.2015

  • SantieClaws
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    Fake or not issues aside I find it pretty disturbing you have openly admitted to selling gold on the black market. If you can make enough to do this and live on it then it is prove enough for me that the current trade system is fundamentally and massively flawed.
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  • Kyros
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    why it must be flawed?
    RMT in any online game its not a weakness, but a part of it. You can struggle with it, but you cant win. Only the way like in diablo 3 - all items and gold become BoP, auction cancelled, trade is very limited also
    but after this the game become less interesting because its like an amputation of whole part of human body - to cut off economic part of the online game
    Edited by Kyros on November 18, 2015 7:54PM
  • Artjuh90
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    Egonieser wrote: »
    Interesting to see that this takes place, and good to know the devs are taking feedback directly from players of their game. Big thumbs up from me!

    Curious though, do console players get represented at these meetings?

    Console players are playing the same game are they not? Just because you don't have addons doesn't make any difference as all the discussions etc are about the core of the game - which is the same across all platforms, all the issues affect mostly all the platforms the same way. And since communicating is much easier and straightforward on PC, as you just send a prior mail, jump on TS and done, and also the PC playerbase is much older and established and understand the game fundamentally much better than console players, minus the transfers obviously. (Not meaning this in a nasty or elitist way, it's just a fact)

    And remember, there are players who play on PC and Console at the same time, so they might bring up issues which might be exclusive to consoles only, which i really can't see at the moment, all issues are the same everywhere and any upcoming changes will also be the same for everyone.

    you actually kinda proved with this post they should actually do this.
    as you stated yourseld console players play without addons. so without external programs that add content in the game that is lacking. a pc player fixes this easy with addons that are develped and tweeked to preform as best it can. for console we keep getting our faces pressed against the wall about missing some basic things in the game that are missing yet we don't have an option to fix this like: damage numbers i have to guess my dps in a MMO? can't even always tell if i did crit or not.
    basic communication for an MMO as text chat? seeing what traits are being researched and have been unlocked without having to be at a crafting station. things like this make the game way easyer.
    and then im not even talking about addons like skyshard locations or lorebook locations. although i wouldn't use them especially the pvp community who wants to rush through the levels to get to the end game have it way easyer to get those levels/abilty points on pc then console.
    so console players have maybe even more insight of what is lacking in the game over pc players if you look it this way
  • Genomic
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    Kyros wrote: »
    @Yolokin_Swagonborn no thanks we will stay here
    in any mmo must be a good and huge economy system with complex rulers as any other economic system in the world

    and i like to re-selling stuff all day long, and receive very good weekly profirt for this - usually like 4-5 millions
    its enough, when i usually sold this gold on the black market - to pay all my bills, to buy all food i desire, to buy cloth for me and my wife and even for my fresh born kid

    if you wanna the game without trading sysem - go back to tetris :)

    So you initially claim your trading guild has had a meeting with ZOS, now you claim you are an illegal gold seller (which will get you perma-banned in a microsecond by ZOS).

    WTH is going on here?
  • Kyros
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    im not said i am in that guild
    just got screenshot from my friend
  • Genomic
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    Is your friend who met with ZOS an illegal gold seller too, or is it just you?
  • Kyros
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    who cares?
    i writing from account banned 3 months ago, idk why i can posting
  • Sallington
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    More guild content or the game dies, IMO.
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  • AngryNord
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    Obvious troll is obvious...
  • Kyros
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    Obvious troll is obvious...

    its like you introducing yourself or what?
  • Xendyn
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    Ok, SS is real, I am in ETU and have the same letter. I've known about these meetings for several months, from this guild, DIG and others.

    This OP, however, has been reported for admitting to being a gold seller and posting from a banned account.
    Hopefully ZOS will correct an obvious error in not linking game accounts and forum accounts.


    Outa this mess.


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  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Either this is one big troll of the trade guilds that run this game and have the exclusive ear of ZOS are also selling gold on the side.

    Lovely. Those are definitely the kind of people we want representing us in secret closed door guild meetings. An un-elected oligarchy that gets away with price speculation and illegal gold sales while the rest of us have to obey the rules.

    How come this game has to mirror real life so much?
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on November 18, 2015 10:24PM
  • Kyros
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    so you compared goldsellers with... drugdillers?
  • Tholian1
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    So is it safe to blame these select, special guilds for many of the terrible decisions being made that are chasing players away? Surely they aren't only looking out for their own self-interests at the expense of everyone else. Right?
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  • Elsonso
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    Tholian1 wrote: »
    So is it safe to blame these select, special guilds for many of the terrible decisions being made that are chasing players away? Surely they aren't only looking out for their own self-interests at the expense of everyone else. Right?

    Don't assume that ZOS is incapable of making their own decisions...
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    This guild meeting was real. A few of us met with this group on Monday, which consisted of representatives from many guilds with various focuses - PvE, PvP, trading, trials/groups, etc. It's not a secret that we meet with guilds, and have done so since beta. These meetings aren't exclusive Q&As with developers - they are one of many ways for us to gather feedback and potential bugs.

    All that said, this thread has kind of gone down the toilet and will be closed.
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