Zen Please!!!!!! Twice Born Star Set

Sav72 · October 2015

Will there be a fix in the future on the TWS set.

If I replace my TWS set with my PVP set, and then equip my TWS set, 2nd stone effect is gone.

It is very annoying that you have to keep going back and forth to get the 2nd mundus stone effect on your TBS set.

Any news is appreciated.

Thank you

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

Yep, couldn't agree more. TBS set should "remember" the 2nd stone. That's why I don't use it at the moment, but I would use use it if it did.

Nifty2g · October 2015

do you really want more bugs with this set? lets not encourage it

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

Like "convenient" and "bug-free" are incompatible ??? I'm no programmer but there should be a way to achieve both

CtrlAltDlt · October 2015

I hope they fix willows path soon too

ItsRejectz · October 2015

juan0316 wrote: »

I hope they fix willows path soon too

What's wrong with willows? I was just going to craft that

CtrlAltDlt · October 2015

ItsRejectz wrote: »

juan0316 wrote: »

I hope they fix willows path soon too

What's wrong with willows? I was just going to craft that

The 5 piece bonus doesnt take into account cps and regen drinks. Its still a nice set though.

silky_soft · October 2015

They could of got rid of twice born and made it a trait in cp. But you know, they like to wreck things enough till it's time to make it f2p and p2w.

RoyJade · October 2015

The TWB bonus is extremely strong, if CP can get a similar bonus getting 260 cp will result as a enormous dps/heal/tanking gain. It would be far too much.
But that's not a reason to not have the second stone be remembered by the set.

ItsRejectz · October 2015

juan0316 wrote: »

ItsRejectz wrote: »

juan0316 wrote: »

I hope they fix willows path soon too

What's wrong with willows? I was just going to craft that

The 5 piece bonus doesnt take into account cps and regen drinks. Its still a nice set though.

Oh right, thanks for that as I was unaware of that. I think ill wait before I craft it then.

Sav72 · October 2015

/bump

Valrien · October 2015

Would be a cool milestone though. When you get 1200 or even 3600 CP, unlock a 2nd mundus stone!

Ezareth · October 2015

juan0316 wrote: »

ItsRejectz wrote: »

juan0316 wrote: »

I hope they fix willows path soon too

What's wrong with willows? I was just going to craft that

The 5 piece bonus doesnt take into account cps and regen drinks. Its still a nice set though.

Nothing multiplicative is working with Drinks, only additive percentage modifiers. This bug was noted in 1.6.3 (I think) patch notes...I've never seen them mention it was fixed yet.

Willows *does* work with CPs however....in fact it is *multiplicative* with CPs making it far more powerful than it appears at face value.

Gilliamtherogue · October 2015

It'd be as simple as binding the Mundus stone to the 5 piece instead of unlocking a 2ndary slot for your character. Right now character's are allowed 1 Mundus stone as a basis, and there is likely a piece of coding that when one is filled, it overwrites any new ones that come in, but the 5 piece adds a new line of coding that allows a 2nd to fill in before overwriting your previous stone. Instead of doing that, they could simply add the line of code to the 5 piece itself and have it act the same way a character does, so that the Mundus stone is applied to the gear itself, so if you remove it, you lose the buff, but when you put it back on, the Mundus reactivates.

I really don't know too much about programming so I could be completely off about it, but what I suggest wouldn't be impossible either. That way you could even run a gear set where you have the 5 piece active on one bar, but lose it on the other. The second you swap back to the main bar you'd get the mundus back, instead of having to go all the way back to the stone and obtain the buff. Granted, the system could be really buggy at first (like it was when it released), but as long as it's amply tested before it goes live, it wouldn't be an issue.

The main issue before was that not many players had access to Twice Born (9 traits was rather rare for people to have learned at the time) and it was kind of scoffed off as a viable set, so unless someone had the mindset of, "How can I break this set to my advantage" not many people had the ability to bug report it.

GilGalad · October 2015

@ZOS_GinaBruno

is this something we can expect to be changed in the near future?

Sav72 · October 2015

/bump...sorry, will not let this go, until I get some feed back.

I do not expect a fix today.....(that would be a Miracle)

I just want to know whats the plan on a fix....

F7sus4 · October 2015

This set works as it actually should.

You unequip the set that granted you a bonus - you lose it.
You equip the set - it starts to "allow you to have two Mundus Stone boons" and not "grants second Mundus Stones buff that you prayed upon last time"".

CtrlAltDlt · October 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

juan0316 wrote: »

ItsRejectz wrote: »

juan0316 wrote: »

I hope they fix willows path soon too

What's wrong with willows? I was just going to craft that

The 5 piece bonus doesnt take into account cps and regen drinks. Its still a nice set though.

Nothing multiplicative is working with Drinks, only additive percentage modifiers. This bug was noted in 1.6.3 (I think) patch notes...I've never seen them mention it was fixed yet.

Willows *does* work with CPs however....in fact it is *multiplicative* with CPs making it far more powerful than it appears at face value.

I see. Thanks for clearing this up.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

F7sus4 wrote: »

This set works as it actually should.

You unequip the set that granted you a bonus - you lose it.
You equip the set - it starts to "allow you to have two Mundus Stone boons" and not "grants second Mundus Stones buff that you prayed upon last time"".

Not sure it's working as intended.
Considering it's a crafted set, the weapon can be your 5th item on one bar and on your other bar you have for instance a master weapon.
That means that you lose your TBS buff as soon as you switch to your master weapon bar, and don't get it back when you switch back to your 1st bar with TBS weapon.
That's ridiculous.
It is a bug, or a failure in design.

TiberX · October 2015

I love TWice born since they buffed mundus stones but I also like Phoenix for pvp. Every time i go in wgt or prisson and put on the TB i must visit a mundus stones. I think it should memorize the chosen mundus stones. Yup , also the weapon swap is an issue, u can lose mundus bonus even with that.
Finally they made a 9 trait set worth wearing and now its a pain in the a%* to make it work.

Helluin · October 2015

Yes, it would be easier something like you ask but, with the many bugs/exploits around this set, atm the situation seems fine.
Switching sets is an issue, especially when you can't visit a Mundus Stone or when you forget to do that.
Probably, nowadays, the long loading screens make this more boring and longer.

Sav72 · November 2015

/stop dodging the question

Teiji · November 2015

F7sus4 wrote: »

This set works as it actually should.

You unequip the set that granted you a bonus - you lose it.
You equip the set - it starts to "allow you to have two Mundus Stone boons" and not "grants second Mundus Stones buff that you prayed upon last time"".

This post has all the information conveniently in one place.

The set does what it does, you've made this thread due to a misunderstanding with the in-game text; this is normal; history tell us that in-game text, specifically tooltips have been less than helpful since way back when.

Sav72 · November 2015

Teiji wrote: »

F7sus4 wrote: »

This set works as it actually should.

You unequip the set that granted you a bonus - you lose it.
You equip the set - it starts to "allow you to have two Mundus Stone boons" and not "grants second Mundus Stones buff that you prayed upon last time"".

This post has all the information conveniently in one place.

The set does what it does, you've made this thread due to a misunderstanding with the in-game text; this is normal; history tell us that in-game text, specifically tooltips have been less than helpful since way back when.

Oh, really...

Well then I guess they will address this issue on a 9 tier crafting set, when they notice there player base in ESO has dissipated..

I give up....

MikeB · November 2015

Of course you lose the 2nd mundus when you lose the 5 piece bonus... How about you craft 5 pieces of TBS armor instead of relying on a weapon swap that takes away your 5th piece of TBS. The gear set it working as intended. Would it be nice for the 2nd mundus to be added as a hidden 6th bonus to the armor? Yes, but I'm sure you've played this game long enough to know you can't expect much, especially convenience and practicality.

The majority of ESO's player base are casual and wont be able to craft TBS for a long time and even when they can I doubt they will realize the benefits to it.

Maulkin · November 2015

Having Mundus stones applied or removed every time you weapon swap in combat??...

..stop making Jesus facepalm pls.

eliisra · November 2015

I'm just going to shamelessly bump this thread, because this problem is driving me nuts.

ZoS keeps making PvE content where you have to switch between tank and dps mid dungeon. This means players wearing TBS looses their second mundus, every time they change.

Had I known this I would never have wasted a smaller fortune on this set. I cant really leave mid-dungeon and pick up my second mundus all over again.

Either stop making PvE dungeons where tanks needs to go dps. Or bloody fix Twice Born Star, make it remember your second mundus.

Sordidfairytale · November 2015

eliisra wrote: »

I'm just going to shamelessly bump this thread, because this problem is driving me nuts.

ZoS keeps making PvE content where you have to switch between tank and dps mid dungeon. This means players wearing TBS looses their second mundus, every time they change.

Had I known this I would never have wasted a smaller fortune on this set. I cant really leave mid-dungeon and pick up my second mundus all over again.

Either stop making PvE dungeons where tanks needs to go dps. Or bloody fix Twice Born Star, make it remember your second mundus.

What are you changing? You could have your Chest, Legs, Belt, Gloves, Boots (5 pc) be the TBS set. Then your helm, shoulders, weapons could be another set. I switch my weapons and my monster helm/shoulders and don't lose my TBS bonus.