ZOS, Please No More Group Play Open World Zones

mr_wazzabi · November 2015

Craglorn and IC are really frustrating when none of your friends are online. Who's idea was it to make regular open world mobs as tough as dungeon mobs?

If i want group play, i do dungeons and trials. If i'm alone, i quest in open world and collect mats solo.

Please, for the future dlc, make all open world mobs like what you plan in orsinium, which is solo open world areas.

Again, most players do dungeons and trials when they want to group. Nobody wants to need a tank and healer for open world questing and collecting mats.

End of rant.

Stranglehands · November 2015

if you can't solo in craglorn i feel bad for you son

Alucardo · November 2015

Valid rant to say the least. I'm actually looking forward to Orsinium for the battle levelling and solo gameplay. Most of my friends are doing their own things, so I have pretty much zero chance to group.
There's generally next to no one in the area I'm in during my weird game times too.

JaJaLuka · November 2015

Only thing about Craglorn that frustrates me is not being able to finish the quest line without a group to activate those switches.

NewBlacksmurf · November 2015

JaJaLuka wrote: »

Only thing about Craglorn that frustrates me is not being able to finish the quest line without a group to activate those switches.

This is very valid considering the design of the majority of the game

nimander99 · November 2015

A soft grouping system would be a great solution for adventure zones and IC, just a radius based grouping system similar-ish to GW2.

Scyantific · November 2015

Here's to hoping that Murkmire and Mephala's realm are Crag 2.0 so we can see a flow of tears on the forums.

Egonieser · November 2015

Craglorn was and is soloable, except for the quests that require you to have 4 people in group because of locks (damn annoying). It might be more challenging if you are low rank and have very basic, bad gear.

IC is soloable except the roaming bosses and 2 quest bosses, namely arena and temple, none of other mobs are in any way challenging. Even the sewers minibosses aren't much of a challenge, except obviously the Molag Bal thing, but they were designed to be group/raid encounters, but other 99% of IC is solo. The challenge comes from battling other players, not the mobs.

Just do the solo parts (which are the majority of both) and do the group-locked content when your friends are on or there is some LFG activity.

mr_wazzabi · November 2015

Stranglehands wrote: »

if you can't solo in craglorn i feel bad for you son

With the right build, I can, but it's frustrating and my time is best spent somewhere else. It's a shame as zos put a lot of content here, but forcing people to group for quests is just stupid.

When a wasp can oneshot you or an archer can twoshot you, doing the quests solo is just bs. If i wanted to challenge myself, i would try to solo a dungeon.

AshTal · November 2015

Agree with this soo much. Standing around spaming LFG should not be 50% of my play time. Yes I like groups they can be fun when they work together and its a good group. However I can't always commit to 2 hours play time so if I have 40 mins I don't want to spend 30 minutes looking for a group and then have to bail before I get into the content.

AhPook_Is_Here · November 2015

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Stranglehands wrote: »

if you can't solo in craglorn i feel bad for you son

With the right build, I can, but it's frustrating and my time is best spent somewhere else. It's a shame as zos put a lot of content here, but forcing people to group for quests is just stupid.

When a wasp can oneshot you or an archer can twoshot you, doing the quests solo is just bs. If i wanted to challenge myself, i would try to solo a dungeon.

you have to bash the archers, or reflect, your call. just their taking aim thing i think is a small cone if i remember correctly so not sure if you can reflect that when they give their tell.

mr_wazzabi · November 2015

IC, safe to say, is un-soloable by 90% of players. Can anyone solo the arena district or temple district bosses here? Maybe with 1000 cp and full gold vr16 gear.

Faulgor · November 2015

Disagree 100%. More open world group gameplay please.

lathbury · November 2015

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

IC, safe to say, is un-soloable by 90% of players. Can anyone solo the arena district or temple district bosses here? Maybe with 1000 cp and full gold vr16 gear.

yes 2 bosses are unsolable that does not mean the vast majority of the dlc is.

americansteel · November 2015

Faulgor wrote: »

Disagree 100%. More open world group gameplay please.

everything in this game except guild and mainstory are group play allowable.

i wouldn't mind seeing another zone like craglorn but 1 more and that's it. solo players out number group players by a sizeable amount.

AhPook_Is_Here · November 2015

The world bosses in Orsinium are pretty tough, you might need help to finish them off unless you have really good gear and skills.

mr_wazzabi · November 2015

Also, having to sneak around a whole army of dungeon level mobs just to get to your crafting survey is a huge waste of time.

Faulgor wrote: »

Disagree 100%. More open world group gameplay please.

You either have a guild that has people online at all hours of the day or are at the cp cap and feel bored when questing in solo areas.

I think the majority of players will disagree with you.

Fat-Larry-Makes-All · November 2015

I'm a solo player and I love Craglorns extra dificulty, that was exactly what I was looking for and it gave me a lot of fun back in the game. Forced me to think about a proper build and crafting the right gear.

I do agree with the fact that wasps are OP. 4 scorpions weighing at least 100 kilo each should be harder to kill than some 20 kilo flying buggers. I could just whack em out the air with a stick and let my Guar stand on them.

I mean if it were me, I'd rather not fight either, but when forced to choose no way in hell I'm ever gonna try and fight some humungous scorpions.

mr_wazzabi · November 2015

lathbury wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

IC, safe to say, is un-soloable by 90% of players. Can anyone solo the arena district or temple district bosses here? Maybe with 1000 cp and full gold vr16 gear.

yes 2 bosses are unsolable that does not mean the vast majority of the dlc is.

Try soloing the legion zero quest with a nightblade.

Have you solo'd the entire ic questline besides those bosses i mentioned?

lathbury · November 2015

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

IC, safe to say, is un-soloable by 90% of players. Can anyone solo the arena district or temple district bosses here? Maybe with 1000 cp and full gold vr16 gear.

yes 2 bosses are unsolable that does not mean the vast majority of the dlc is.

Try soloing the legion zero quest with a nightblade.

Have you solo'd the entire ic questline besides those bosses i mentioned?

challenge accepted

mr_wazzabi · November 2015

lathbury wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

IC, safe to say, is un-soloable by 90% of players. Can anyone solo the arena district or temple district bosses here? Maybe with 1000 cp and full gold vr16 gear.

yes 2 bosses are unsolable that does not mean the vast majority of the dlc is.

Try soloing the legion zero quest with a nightblade.

Have you solo'd the entire ic questline besides those bosses i mentioned?

challenge accepted

Let me know how it goes

You must solo every quest in ic with a nightblade. If a group runs in while you're fighting either a boss or group of mobs, that doesn't count.

O and one more thing. You must have less than 300 champion points.

Post a video.

Egonieser · November 2015

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

IC, safe to say, is un-soloable by 90% of players. Can anyone solo the arena district or temple district bosses here? Maybe with 1000 cp and full gold vr16 gear.

yes 2 bosses are unsolable that does not mean the vast majority of the dlc is.

Try soloing the legion zero quest with a nightblade.

Have you solo'd the entire ic questline besides those bosses i mentioned?

challenge accepted

Let me know how it goes

You must solo every quest in ic with a nightblade. If a group runs in while you're fighting either a boss or group of mobs, that doesn't count.

O and one more thing. You must have less than 300 champion points.

Post a video.

Did that with my back then vr9 Battleleveled Nightblade, except temple and arena i did it solo.

Xendyn · November 2015

lathbury wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

IC, safe to say, is un-soloable by 90% of players. Can anyone solo the arena district or temple district bosses here? Maybe with 1000 cp and full gold vr16 gear.

yes 2 bosses are unsolable that does not mean the vast majority of the dlc is.

Try soloing the legion zero quest with a nightblade.

Have you solo'd the entire ic questline besides those bosses i mentioned?

challenge accepted

*puts some gold down on lath*

OtarTheMad · November 2015

Murkmire is right around the corner, probably after TG and DB DLC drop, which is basically a Craglorn clone... so... yeah.

mr_wazzabi · November 2015

Egonieser wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

lathbury wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

IC, safe to say, is un-soloable by 90% of players. Can anyone solo the arena district or temple district bosses here? Maybe with 1000 cp and full gold vr16 gear.

yes 2 bosses are unsolable that does not mean the vast majority of the dlc is.

Try soloing the legion zero quest with a nightblade.

Have you solo'd the entire ic questline besides those bosses i mentioned?

challenge accepted

Let me know how it goes

You must solo every quest in ic with a nightblade. If a group runs in while you're fighting either a boss or group of mobs, that doesn't count.

O and one more thing. You must have less than 300 champion points.

Post a video.

Did that with my back then vr9 Battleleveled Nightblade, except temple and arena i did it solo.

Less than 300 cp's?

Sandmanninja · November 2015

Scyantific wrote: »

Here's to hoping that Murkmire and Mephala's realm are Crag 2.0 so we can see a flow of tears on the forums.

Typical EP.

lathbury · November 2015

@mr_wazzabi
sorry bout the quality but was rushed as those in the thread know plus my raid night. Thanks to the random blues for their contribution. I will finish IC when I'm done raiding but here's the legion zero quest.

https://youtu.be/lXJO4pWJbCQ?t=9m3s

failkiwib16_ESO · November 2015

JaJaLuka wrote: »

Only thing about Craglorn that frustrates me is not being able to finish the quest line without a group to activate those switches.

@JaJaLuka you can just invite 3 friends to join group with you, stand on the stones and press the switches - they don't have jump down in the water hole with you ^^ It's very easy and solable by most.

lathbury · November 2015

will post the further quests soon

RAGUNAnoOne · November 2015

I tried craglorn and could solo most of the mobs, I am V5 even got to shatter a focus crystal myself. I will admit I am not yet good enough to solo the bosses there yet... on a side note node ninjas are rampant there especially in the upper parts (and yes I know why)I hate that crap there should be a protect node synergy if you hover over it while in combat.

Volkodav · November 2015

Egonieser wrote: »

Craglorn was and is soloable, except for the quests that require you to have 4 people in group because of locks (damn annoying). It might be more challenging if you are low rank and have very basic, bad gear.

IC is soloable except the roaming bosses and 2 quest bosses, namely arena and temple, none of other mobs are in any way challenging. Even the sewers minibosses aren't much of a challenge, except obviously the Molag Bal thing, but they were designed to be group/raid encounters, but other 99% of IC is solo. The challenge comes from battling other players, not the mobs.

Just do the solo parts (which are the majority of both) and do the group-locked content when your friends are on or there is some LFG activity.

Umm,..how do you actually get into the sewers in IC anyway soloing.I cant get there.