Magicka sorc here. I completely agree that harness/dampen stacked on top of hardened is easy mode. I don't use harness in pvp any more, and I know other sorcs that don't. I dueled a mage blade a few days ago, who was higher rank than me, just using healing and hardened. Won a few, lost a few. The fights felt really balanced though and it was fun.
I'm all for the removal of shield stacking but I don't think zos intends to do anything about it. Eric wrobal proved himself fairly clueless to the situation when he spoke of it recently in a stream. He seems to think the shield breaker set fixes the problem of sorcs stacking shields as large as their health pool. They had an opportunity to address the issue properly when they introduced the minor and major buff system, but they didn't, and now that they think they've addressed it I doubt it will ever get looked at again without a huge qq campaign.
Harness Magicka is real problem, it's make when you are magicka, NB hard to kill because cloak and refresh harness (become tanky...), it's make sorc shield stacking, it's make templar tanky and DK more tanky.
When you use magicka, you must to loose a skill because Harness magicka is OP, and It's make problems for all.
THE PROBLEM OF HARNESS MAGICKA IS THE SHIELD, it should just apply a regen boost.
REMOVE the shield of harness magicka is like balanced the magicka VS magicka fights.
i know what you mean, my magica templar sucks to fight sorcs with. but i disagree. The first balance problem is shields balancing off of different stats. If EVERY shield scaled off of health then sorcs could not max their dps and shields in one shot. the other big problem is damage shields make you immune to dots and crits, so basically any build that is not spamming direct damage is *** garbage.
all damage shields scale off health and take dot damage= new game. hell I would be fine with making all scale off magica because I prefer magica but thats clearly as bad for balance as sorcs getting the strongest shield stacking of their dps stat.
Nah, I think hardened ward needs to scale off of magicka, otherwise how are sorcs gonna survive against stamina burst? It's the sorc survival skill, hardened ward is fine.
My issue is that sorcs are able to stack 3 different magicka scaled shields.
If you play a magic sorc and can't either tank or burst every other magicka user you come across (other than sorcs) then you are either doing it wrong or don't have enough CP.
Edit: They can stack with 4 if you include barrier but I won't even go there..
Edited by WreckfulAbandon on October 26, 2015 9:37PM
Mageblades also make excellent use of a harness/healing stack. Templars also use it. To say that only one class benefits from harness is disingenuous. Shield stacking needs to be removed period.
That said, I would be a happy Sorc if harness was no longer a shield.
Mageblades also make excellent use of a harness/healing stack. To say that only one class benefits from harness is disingenuous. Shield stacking needs to be removed period.
Edited by WreckfulAbandon on August 25, 2019 12:44AM