Let's try this again.... Stamina Sorcerer direct damage morph.

  • Erock25
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    What stam sorc needs is a way to layer their burst dmg. There are many ways to do this either by creating a slow moving range projectile that can be used in combination with a charge ability or a delayed burst mechanic similar to Velocious Curse. My vote for stam sorc change is to make Daedric Tomb into Daedric Weapon, which imbues your weapons (BOTH BARS) with Daedric essence or whatever the [snip] you want to call it and after a 4 second activation time (keeps the delayed activation of mines theme) your next weapon attack (could be any stamina based ability dmg or could be light/heavy attack ... doesn't really matter) deals X additional Daedric dmg.

    What you're describing sounds like something they should tack onto Bound Armaments (since as you say it'd be on both bars) and would fit in the theme of Armaments being a combination of both bound armor and weapons.

    I use tomb over the other one currently, >-> but it'd be kind of nice if they had a chance to re-arm after dealing a crit.

    By saying both bars, I just meant that casting it on your one bar would allow it to still work on your 2nd bar. You wouldn't need to slot it on both bars. I do not want it to be a part of Bound Armaments as I do not use that and don't want to have to slot it on both bars.
    blur wrote: »
    Huggalump wrote: »
    The Problem


    The main thing stam sorcs want is to feel like a sorc while still playing Stamina.

    The Solution

    Change either crystal blast or mage's wrath to an instant cast, melee range stamina morph.

    No.
    We already have enough melee.
    It needs to stay ranged just like Frags only stamina based.

    @Xael has the best option I have seen thus far:
    "Again, coming from someone that PvPs regularly on a Stamina Sorc (in the current v2.1 meta) all we need is Stamina morph of Crystal Blast that mirrors the Frag morph. This will also make use of the Dark Magic passives, something most Stam Sorc lack.

    Crystal Blast:
    (Crystal Blast Rank IV)
    Cost - 2268 Stamina | Cast Time - 1s | Radius/Range 28m range (Enemy)

    Conjure dark crystals to bombard an enemy, dealing [x] Magic Damage and knocking them down for 2 seconds.
    Casting other spells & abilities has a 35% chance of causing your next Crystal Fragments to be instant, doing 20% more damage, and costing 50% less Stamina.
    Chance to make ability instant cast.
    Now scales off Weapon Damage and Max Stamina.

    Also a redesign to the Exploitation (Dark Magic) passive:
    Rank I
    Activating a Dark Magic ability grants Minor Prophecy & Savagery to nearby allies, increasing Spell & Weapon Critical by [x] for 10 seconds.
    Dark Magic Rank 39

    Rank II
    Activating a Dark Magic ability grants Minor Prophecy & Savagery to nearby allies, increasing Spell & Weapon Critical by [x] for 20 seconds.
    Dark Magic Rank 50

    Problem solved, Stam Sorcs now awesome. "



    I wouldn't mind having one of the Mage's Fury be a ranged Stam Execute because I love throwing lightning around... but they would have to spice it up to make it better than Executioner. If you are using a 2h Executioner will be better simply due to the 18% extra damage bonus.

    The good part of it being ranged is you can then use Streak to create distance, cast from this ability from range, and charge in to hit simultaneously.
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  • blur
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    blur wrote: »
    Huggalump wrote: »
    The Problem


    The main thing stam sorcs want is to feel like a sorc while still playing Stamina.

    The Solution

    Change either crystal blast or mage's wrath to an instant cast, melee range stamina morph.

    No.
    We already have enough melee.
    It needs to stay ranged just like Frags only stamina based.

    @Xael has the best option I have seen thus far:
    "Again, coming from someone that PvPs regularly on a Stamina Sorc (in the current v2.1 meta) all we need is Stamina morph of Crystal Blast that mirrors the Frag morph. This will also make use of the Dark Magic passives, something most Stam Sorc lack.

    Crystal Blast:
    (Crystal Blast Rank IV)
    Cost - 2268 Stamina | Cast Time - 1s | Radius/Range 28m range (Enemy)

    Conjure dark crystals to bombard an enemy, dealing [x] Magic Damage and knocking them down for 2 seconds.
    Casting other spells & abilities has a 35% chance of causing your next Crystal Fragments to be instant, doing 20% more damage, and costing 50% less Stamina.
    Chance to make ability instant cast.
    Now scales off Weapon Damage and Max Stamina.

    Also a redesign to the Exploitation (Dark Magic) passive:
    Rank I
    Activating a Dark Magic ability grants Minor Prophecy & Savagery to nearby allies, increasing Spell & Weapon Critical by [x] for 10 seconds.
    Dark Magic Rank 39

    Rank II
    Activating a Dark Magic ability grants Minor Prophecy & Savagery to nearby allies, increasing Spell & Weapon Critical by [x] for 20 seconds.
    Dark Magic Rank 50

    Problem solved, Stam Sorcs now awesome. "



    I wouldn't mind having one of the Mage's Fury be a ranged Stam Execute because I love throwing lightning around... but they would have to spice it up to make it better than Executioner. If you are using a 2h Executioner will be better simply due to the 18% extra damage bonus.

    The good part of it being ranged is you can then use Streak to create distance, cast from this ability from range, and charge in to hit simultaneously.

    Agreed.
    You can also combo it with other skills such as "masking" (as xael called it) with your crit rush/WB combo. He was demonstrating it on his stream a month or so ago.
  • Huggalump
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    you know.... I'm starting to think that instead of adding an instant to sorcs, instead instants should be removed from nightblades. I'm starting to realize I enjoy pvp vs DK, templars, and other sorcs, but pvp vs NB seems like keyboard smashing. Maybe being vulnerable when you're attacking is good for the game.
  • Ghost-Shot
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    Sarousse wrote: »
    We're the only class without a direct damage skill stamina morph. It's about time you give us one.

    The only class? Do tell me about DK's direct damage stamina skill. I'll wait.
  • Ahzek
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    @Ghost-Shot DoTs are still direct damage (and with the damage nerf they have become quite powerful again).

    Regarding the stam morph option for sorcs I wouldnt mind to actually get a lighning flood version. While the 10sec duration ome is quite essential for PvE sorc DPS I think the 6 sexond one could be turned into a quite nice stamina morph. It would however have to stick to the target (with a smaller AoE ) and deal a bit more damage. This would give stam sorcs a lighning themed offenisve spell ,that also allows for stacking burst and has pretty good synergy with disintegration. I dont really feel a stam fragment to be the go to solutionf for stam sorcs, especially since I dont want my stam sorc to start feeling like a clone of my (old) magicka sorcs playstyle.
    Jo'Khaljor
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