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  • jmgrant44ub17_ESO
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    Can I make a guess? All the players who are having these issues are running the game on Windows 10, right?

    Of what I've seen in the PC Technical Support forum during the last weeks or even months, these kind of issues were reported mostly from players using Windows 10. Which are exact the same issues I had months ago on Windows XP (yes, I upgraded in the meantime lol, but to 7/64bit, on purpose). Reading a crash report in one of the postings in the Technical Support forum just recently was kinda confusing since it reads like he's running the game on WinXP, and not 10! Maybe it sounds odd when I see a connection there, but.. I'm sure there is.
    Btw, I don't have any of these issues on Win7.

    Not so fast. I have been running the same PC I built during beta using windows 7.

    I have been dropped from the sky into the ocean by Daggerfall (hence the fall), logged out in Bleackrock and when I logged back in was dropped on the other side of the island, logged in at Elden Root (I logged out in the tree) and died from fall damage from being dropped over by the Undaunted, twice logged in on top of the tree at Elden Root. This all started after 2.1.4 and I'm sure ZOS is aware of this issue but I don't think they understand how annoying this is.
  • Jimboo84
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    Djeriko wrote: »

    I keep getting the fall issue in Cyrodiil & Craglorn, but when falling it fixes itself to the ground, I don't die anymore.
    For me(PC version) it's fixed.

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  • Djeriko
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    This has happened for me in all zones but most often in Bankorai. I assume based on everyone else that this is sporadic and
    Jimboo84 wrote: »
    Djeriko wrote: »

    I keep getting the fall issue in Cyrodiil & Craglorn, but when falling it fixes itself to the ground, I don't die anymore.
    For me(PC version) it's fixed.

    At around 3/4 if the time my character spawns at a nearby wayshrine but the other times look like the video I showed. This is still going on. Just trying to make sure ZOS is aware.
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  • Djeriko
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    Yet another video of Login Instant Death. This one teleported me all over the place.

    plays.tv/video/56209c542eda380a0b
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  • AlienSlof
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    This happens to me ALL the time. Sometimes I login normally, but most times I get variations on being loaded high into the sky, or loading screen-sky-loading screen, etc. Sometimes I end up nowhere near where I logged out!
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  • Djeriko
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    ZOS needs to see these otherwise they can't fix it. So post your videos too if you got them. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JasonLeavey @ZOS_MattFiror See the rest of the thread
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  • Sarrge
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    Yup. Load Screen > Character appears MOMENTARILY where they ought to be > Load Screen > Falling to Death/alternate place in the zone/water/water UNDERNEATH the playable world... FML

    I have submitted nigh about 100 bug reports with screenshot included - Of my characters dead having smacked the ground - Of my characters splashing in the ocean beneath the playable world.

    Oh, and then there's the "lucky" drops where I wind up landing alive somewhere outside of town at some random nearby-ish locale. and then I get to run back to town to do my banking/adventure prep.

    Just doing basic character swaps to do a little bank management takes a blasted hour!

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  • Malmai
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    Yep its very annoying
  • Reavyne
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    Had this happen to me 6 times now XD both in the air and when i just log in i fall through the earth for a good 12 secs till i die baha i find it funny
  • Xantaria
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    I have never experienced this in a year of palying this game. (over 100 days of playtime)
    Edited by Xantaria on October 20, 2015 11:19AM
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  • pirate3
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    Get this all the time.
  • Dreizopf
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    Man sollte sagen, was man meint. Wenn man nicht sagt, was man meint, dann meint man nicht, was man sagt.
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  • Dreizopf
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    Can I make a guess? All the players who are having these issues are running the game on Windows 10, right?

    Of what I've seen in the PC Technical Support forum during the last weeks or even months, these kind of issues were reported mostly from players using Windows 10. Which are exact the same issues I had months ago on Windows XP (yes, I upgraded in the meantime lol, but to 7/64bit, on purpose). Reading a crash report in one of the postings in the Technical Support forum just recently was kinda confusing since it reads like he's running the game on WinXP, and not 10! Maybe it sounds odd when I see a connection there, but.. I'm sure there is.
    Btw, I don't have any of these issues on Win7.

    No! I experience this annoying "falling to death" on Win7/64bit regularly. :/
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  • k9mouse
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    I am getting this bug several times a day. :#
  • Xantaria
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    Well as some people experience it several times a day and some have never experienced it so far there MUST be a connection between the system you are using and this issue.
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  • ZOS_RichLambert
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    We are definitely aware of this one, but its been really difficult to reproduce and therefore track down. It only seems to happen to a select few people so any specifics you have would help immensely.
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  • snorlockb16_ESO
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    Xantaria wrote: »
    Well as some people experience it several times a day and some have never experienced it so far there MUST be a connection between the system you are using and this issue.
    You are putting too much emphasis on "MUST."
    The event may be random, which means, like refining mats or getting drops from mobs, one person may get 10 in a row and another person may get 0, while everyone else is somewhere between.
    It may be locational, perhaps even a specific tile in a bank etc. that you haven't happened to have been standing on when you log out.
    This "event" used to happen fairly often in beta and early releases too. It was fixed, then suddenly came back with IC patch or shortly after.
    Even if it only happens with certain systems it is a bug. The game should run on various versions of Windows equally well.

  • iamnotweakrwb17_ESO
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    I get this bug all the time. It always happens after changing zones.. I will load in, run forward 5 - 10 steps and then port into the air. I believe I've only ever died from it once.
  • MishMash
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    I fall and die or get stuck somewhere and have to pay the /stuck gold fee. It happens a lot to me and I getting tired of paying the fee. If I run out of gold when it happens... game over. I won't be able to get back in the game.

    ZOS - Please fix this bug.

    Lets not forget the Armor Repair bill if you are in PvE!
    So, let me ask... if this happens to me how do you stop it from continuing?
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  • Catmophere
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    Oh I've had this too. Log in or swap characters and just death.... or drop from large height and death.

    I just assumed it was the same sort of bug that means you end up in a strange part of the landscape sometimes 'behind the scenes'. That's only happened to me once but a guildie says it happens to him all the time.

    Dying not being a big deal in this game I haven't worried about it. Curious to hear it happens a lot to others too though.
  • Preyfar
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    We are definitely aware of this one, but its been really difficult to reproduce and therefore track down. It only seems to happen to a select few people so any specifics you have would help immensely.
    This happens to me a lot. The main issue is that it's near impossible to know what the specifics are because the moment you log in, by the time the loading screen changes, you're already falling through the world.

    The only thing I've noticed is that if I'm on a slope or incline, I seem to have a higher chance of falling through -- it's like when my character enters the world, the base of my model is inserted into part of the slope, but it's never quite the exact same coordinates where I logged out. When my character loads, the game appears to see my character under the ground and I just drop.

    But again, the problem is it's not consistent and becomes near impossible to troubleshoot. It seems the longer my character is logged out the more likely it is to happen, too (e.g. if I just log out and switch chars it never happens, but if an hour or two goes by and I log in it seems far more likely to happen). I'm not sure if there's some code that keeps recent characters in memory or not, but... just something I also noticed.

    EDIT: And every time I fall through the world, I see tons of objects randomly floating under ground. At one point I was falling outside of the Daggerfall bank and a loaf of bread passed by me like "Sup!" and... yeah. XD

    EDIT 2: Would it also be possible to have characters login maybe a foot or so above the ground and "drop in" to the world upon login? This could resolve it, and ultimately be kind of a neat effect where kind of drop in while entering the world.
    Edited by Preyfar on October 20, 2015 4:52PM
  • Asherons_Call
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    I had a funny one happen to me over the weekend - I logged in and was underneath the map and began to fall further and further down. Since there was nothing to stop my free fall I just kept falling. I was humoured by this so I just let him fall to see what would happen. Maybe I'd end up on the other side of mundus?? I got bored after a while and logged out :)
  • Jennifur_Vultee
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    I keep hearing about this bug, but it hasn't happened to me yet. It almost does.. I login, screen goes white and I start falling. Then I get another loading screen and I fall onto the ground from 2 meters high and it's fine. Super weird.


    That seems to be how it initially presents itself, after a while it gets worse and you will start falling from great height to your death. I still get those short falls too but more and more its the login, fall, die.
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  • stevenbennett_ESO
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    I used to see this all the time after Imperial City. On average, logging into 8 different characters daily, I'd see it on average every other day, most often in the Banks in Daggerfall, Rivenspire, and Vulkiel Guard. About half the time I'd fall through the world and end up in a way shrine. Sometimes I'd find myself falling a shorter distance, and I'd find myself dislocated from the original location - occasionally quite a distance away. The only times I actually died from falling damage were the few times it happened in Coldharbor.

    As time progressed, it mutated slightly - instead of immediately falling through the world, I'd sometimes see the actual location I was supposed to spawn at, then a loading screen again for a very brief time, then fall through the world.

    Note I was seeing this mostly on the Mac client, although I believe I saw it at least once on the PC client.

    Most recently, I haven't actually seen this anymore, but several times in the last week (in the banks in Daggerfall and Wayrest, using the PC client) I've seen what I thought was an attempt to fix it -- I appeared in the right spot, but as soon as I started to move, I'd see what looked like myself falling through the world for a split second, then a loading screen for a split second, then back to where I was supposed to be. I thought perhaps one of the coders had figured out a fix to catch the issue when it happened and correct for it, but if they're having trouble tracking this one down, maybe it's just another mutation of the bug.
  • Djeriko
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    We are definitely aware of this one, but its been really difficult to reproduce and therefore track down. It only seems to happen to a select few people so any specifics you have would help immensely.

    This seems to happen most often after swapping characters. Locations don't seem to affect how often. I can say from my personal experience that I see it while logging into a character who would be standing inside the Bankorai bank in Evermore. That character then gets teleported into the air and even into inaccessible areas such as the mountain directly behind the bank.

    The other incidents I encounter are falling through the ground in Craglorn. This usually wont result in death but then you have to sit and wait for your character to fall, then get relocated back at the wayshrine in Belkarth. So many load screens.

    Thankfully I have a video program that is able to record the past few seconds before i press record so I am able to catch the crashes and bugs. Look out for my upcoming post where I show all my crash videos and login deaths as they happen.
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  • Robbmrp
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    We are definitely aware of this one, but its been really difficult to reproduce and therefore track down. It only seems to happen to a select few people so any specifics you have would help immensely.

    It's completely random but seems to occur more when changing zones. I've also experienced this while in Imperial City. I used a Teleport stone from one of the districts to go back to base and what happens, I port back to the base sewer and fall to my death causing a Tel Var stone loss which the Teleport Stone is supposed to prevent....
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  • Asherons_Call
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    Robbmrp wrote: »
    We are definitely aware of this one, but its been really difficult to reproduce and therefore track down. It only seems to happen to a select few people so any specifics you have would help immensely.

    It's completely random but seems to occur more when changing zones. I've also experienced this while in Imperial City. I used a Teleport stone from one of the districts to go back to base and what happens, I port back to the base sewer and fall to my death causing a Tel Var stone loss which the Teleport Stone is supposed to prevent....

    I've never had this happen when changing zones. The 10 or so times its happen has always been upon login
  • Nestor
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    We are definitely aware of this one, but its been really difficult to reproduce and therefore track down. It only seems to happen to a select few people so any specifics you have would help immensely.

    This used to happen on every one of my characters on every log in screen. Now it happens on just a few of them but not every single time, just most of them. However there is one specific character this happens on each and every time I log in. Your more than welcome to pull up my account and login to Crafter Collector and watch it happen.

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  • Love_Chunks
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    its totally random. Sometimes i spawn underground sometimes in the air and sometimes it doesn't happen at all. There are a few instances where i know where ill most likely spawn if it does happen. If I login while on the second floor of elden root, I'll end up falling inside of the tree and I'll die on the ceiling of the first floor. If i login to rawl kha bank, ill almost always spawn in the sky. Sometimes ill get lucky and hit a roof and not take and fall damage. Craglorn bank always spawn under the map. Glenumbra bank always spawn in the sky over some random part of the map. Might get lucky and spawn above the docks and land in the water. Deshaan bank: sometimes spawn under/inside but not technically in the bank. I can walk up to a door on the lower level use it to get back inside the bank with out having to use the /stuck command. Had a party member who had to relog while in tempest island. It spawned them way out inthe ocean at the beginning of the dungeon and they got devoured by slaughter fish.

    Imperial sewers had to be the most intersting. Spawned outside of the map when logging in and could traverse the entirety of the sewers outside of the map. Was a fun little waste of time. I made it all the way to the end of the map and fell off. I kept falling until it logged me out. Logged back in to find my character stuck on the side of the edge of the map and had to use the /stuck command before i started falling again. took a bunch of screen shots too. Luckily when it happened on another character i was able to open the the door to my home base and get back inside of the map.

    I can't really attest to the frequency of this glitch all i can do is describe what actually happens to my characters when it happens.
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  • Osteos
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    This happens to me all the time. Some days are worse then others. It happens on all my characters. It happens if I wayshrine or travel to player and while logging in. It happens when I have costumes on and when I don't. Usually when I fall I'm quite far from the wayshrine.

    I've posted some of these before

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    Sometimes I will start to fall and then get a load screen and drop in front of the wayshrine safely. Those are the lucky days :/
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