I was just talking about this with a friend of mine and I feel like the only thing that keeps me logging in are the friends I've made through this game. Sadly, however, they're all leaving because they're not enjoying the game any longer. I know I should play a game because I love it and not because someone else is but what's an MMO without other people that you enjoy playing with?

Do you have better mmo?
Except EVE and WOW.

audrieltheelf wrote: »

I was just talking about this with a friend of mine and I feel like the only thing that keeps me logging in are the friends I've made through this game. Sadly, however, they're all leaving because they're not enjoying the game any longer. I know I should play a game because I love it and not because someone else is but what's an MMO without other people that you enjoy playing with?

It is not that uncommon for that to happen definitely a motivating factor in many MMO, but ESO is different it is probably the most anti-social game I have run across that is multiplayer. With how the guilds are designed they are formed more from a business perspective then from a social. So when I group even from guilds it seems to be a PUG 90% of the time, every once in awhile I will get on a streak for a couple of weeks of being with the same people but one way or the other they seem to move on or I do.

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

I've always been a major TES fan since Daggerfall, and this game is perfect for me since I can experience the world of Nirn while playing/chatting with friends at the same time.

Things that I usually do:

- take a stroll through Tamriel: last week I simply went through Alik'r and Eastmarch, reminiscing a bit, taking SS etc... Tamriel is meant to be explored
- pledges: even though I've currently done 42 of them without finding a monster helm (got plenty of good Shoulders, but no Helmets)
- gathering mats in IC while I'm researcing the 8th trait on several Light Armor pieces for Kagrenac's Hope, so that I can eventually craft an entire 5 pcs Glass set of it
- learning how to PvP properly: currently using the Phoenix set for that since it helps me learn from my mistakes and survive a bit longer. Recently joined a PvP Dueling guild and had a couple of fights with some great players from AD. Still have much to learn, but I'll get there

And currently I'm eagerly anticipating Orsinium

I love this post.
This is what ESO is all about.Having fun.Not whining and demanding more,more,more,all the time.If you need someone to give you an incentive,you have no place in ESO. It's a game created out of love for the entire world of The Elder Scrolls.It isnt some game you run through and quit because you think you've done it all. There will always be things to do.Crafting,fishing,hunting,battling and so much more. Ever since I bought Morrowind in 2002,I've loved ES. I also played WoW and thought wouldnt it be awesome if there were others to play the game along side.To feel the life of everyone running around.lol.Morrowind is that beautiful that I wanted to see how others responded to it.Well,while I dont have Morrowind in ESO,I do have bits and pieces of it to enjoy.Like MW, there are tons of stuff to keep doing. I have no plans to stop either.Here is my incentive: One day they might add Vvardenfell.

There will always be things to be doing but the question is will those activities be worth doing? This is a very gear driven game but when the new shiny seems weaker then the old shiny it discourages you. Also with the flexibility you are really able to customize a build so when you dedicate 64 levels to achieving that build optimally then the new content won't allow for continuation of that path and none of the new options really fit with what you had been doing you get the what a waste feeling.

Keepercraft wrote: »

Do you have better mmo?
Except EVE and WOW.

Well I don't think that are the only two options but I get what you are saying. The games that do have me interested from a MMO perspective are a ways off. But November will be interesting from the single player stand point.

ADarklore wrote: »

Don't feel bad OP... I usually get that feeling when I hit Cadwell's Silver and realize that I won't be seeing my friends in AD anymore. Then I lose motivation to continue and end up starting a new character so I can run AD all over again; hence the reason I have no characters over VR2. *sigh* I keep hoping that one of these times I'll have created a character I enjoy playing so much that it will keep me motivated to play through Silver and Gold.

Well I have a range of friends across realms although I seem to either be well above them in level or well below so just chat don't really play together. It is not that I don't like playing the game I really enjoy the lower levels when things are developing which is probably why it took me so long to get to the higher levels. But once I do reach those higher levels I don't have the feeling of power I was expecting.

I think that as long as you have some sort of goal to work towards, it keeps you playing.

Once you feel like you've beaten the game, that's when it gets boring. And then you feel like there's nothing left to do.

Mettaricana wrote: »

Eh dunno why I keep playing every thing they add makes us weaker so I'm not sure why hit my second vet 16 today made all the new gear rubiditeetc and just looked at her stats and felt underwhelmed... logged out haven't played again rest of day

This^
And the fact I've 3000 crowns left to spend, I doubt I'll bother with any future dlc after orsinium.
From what I've seen with regards to numbers of players within zones on EU PS4 I feel many have already gone on to other games due to the nerfs etc.
Bugs I can tolerate because they're to be expected but I just feel the major flaws in planning and execution along with lack of information to relevent queries are really letting the player and fanbase down, I've always enjoyed the elder scrolls series and really looked forward to playing it as an mmorpg but this just feels kinda meh now.

I can play in an Elder Scrolls world with my friends..

The carrot.

Namely the costumes and skins you can get. Currently trying to get to VR16 for that costume.

tbh I done 1000+ hours on FFXIV and DCUO burnt myself out on them so got ESO as I loved oblivion/skyrim but for a MMO the story on this is by far the best I have came across and dont see me going anywhere soon

Ommamar wrote: »

There will always be things to be doing but the question is will those activities be worth doing?

If you enjoy doing them, then yes. That matters so much more than whether you get a decent bit of gear or an achievement. It's sad that so many people have lost sight of the idea of playing a game just for the enjoyment of playing it.

Staying interested in ESO the last few months has been a challenge. IC was short lived. Granted there will never be enough "new" content to satisfy everybody but I've always been able to find enough stuff to do to keep me interested until recently.

Everything new lately has just been a terrible boring grind. Normally I would be excited to spec out all my characters with new gear but now I loath the thought of it with the terrible rng and ridiculous cost of crafting materials for max lvl.

A lot of my enjoyment use to come from messing around with different builds but that is much tougher now unless you're filthy rich.

imo, vr ranks, cp point issues, broken skills, class imbalance, endless loading screens, lag aren't really demotivating. Nope not at all.

Some cool people you play the game with and activities you do together. That's the motivation source you need to play a mmorpg for a long time.

Speaking of activities what do we have here? Cyrodiil, dungeons, TV stone farming.... err.... questing? rp? fishing? trading? Seriously, people spend many hours playing this game daily. Thanks ZoS there are good amount of dungeons to do for a new game like eso. But both in pvp and pve you team up and kill stuff right?

What do you do together with your friends when when you don't fight? Do we have stupid mini games to kill time? a guild hall or a housing system? build a small boat to just go for an open sea exploration? a maze like the one we saw in one of those harry potter movies? play music together with them? ok they all sounds stupid. but in a massive game like this I expect that kind of stuff to just to have fun for the mad god's sake.

Artheiron wrote: »

imo, vr ranks, cp point issues, broken skills, class imbalance, endless loading screens, lag aren't really demotivating. Nope not at all.

Some cool people you play the game with and activities you do together. That's the motivation source you need to play a mmorpg for a long time.

Speaking of activities what do we have here? Cyrodiil, dungeons, TV stone farming.... err.... questing? rp? fishing? trading? Seriously, people spend many hours playing this game daily. Thanks ZoS there are good amount of dungeons to do for a new game like eso. But both in pvp and pve you team up and kill stuff right?

What do you do together with your friends when when you don't fight? Do we have stupid mini games to kill time? a guild hall or a housing system? build a small boat to just go for an open sea exploration? a maze like the one we saw in one of those harry potter movies? play music together with them? ok they all sounds stupid. but in a massive game like this I expect that kind of stuff to just to have fun for the mad god's sake.

Unfortunately we are missing much to pass the time with... if only we had modders like in all the other ES games, because a large portion of the "stuff" that kept us entertained for so long in those games DID NOT come from the developer.