I Think I'm Officially Done With Imperial City...
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✭✭@CrowsDescend Funny you mention that because today on Xbox One I ganked two EP players who were farming on a EP dominated server, I think it is called moon something. I ended up with about 2k stones from both of them combined (I ganked one in the arena and one in the sewer area as a Stam DK)不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
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Tommy1979AtWar✭✭✭✭BalticBlues wrote: »The IC is the worst DLC I've bought this year.
It is only about grinding, ganking and zerging.
All PvP players I know are already back in Cyrodiil
where you can find real gameplay instead of the IC nonsense.
For crafters, I really hope that Orsisium will fix the mess,
making V15/V16 mats available with reasonable fun again.
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✭✭The stone loss is much too high IMO. Went with a group to do some PvP in one of the districts last night and all 3 alliances were there going at it. Our group started doing well, stayed alive for a decent amount of time with good coordination. Then BAM one death and nearly all that effort erased. One death and almost nothing to show for it. What's the point?
It totally sucks the fun out of PvP. Should I head to the bank every 5m to bank my stones? Lame.
How much sense does it make that the safest/best way to farm in a PvP area is to go mob killing and avoid other players?
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✭✭This kind of game play is what I like about the Imperial City.
It's fun, unpredictbale, varied. You prefer the same keep zerging over and over?
Alliance PvP was a lot better with mercenaries and forward camps. More options = more strategies = more variety.
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I just want to know how his only hit for that much when mine crit against low health players for at least 13.5k /:Unfortunate magicka warden main.
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Nope. Sorc.
But I love small scale PvP and I love having PvE and PvP mixed. You're trying to do a quest, grind, whatever and you get attacked.
The unpredictable nature is what a lot of people like about IC.0 -
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✭✭✭✭im to the point your better off farming Vet Versions of the Dungeons to get your stuff.
They all drop loot that decons into VR16 Matts
All the Agily, Endurance, and willpwer weapons and jewels drop there(where i got mine)
You cna farm the tar out of gold that can be used to buy matts and save yourself the headache,
Tel Var stones are useless, all those trophies in the IPC are useless, simply farm gold and let someone else do all the RNGF for you so you cna simply buy it on your leasure time, Gold is so easy to come by, the IPC is craglorn with PVP, its ok i guess, im not saying its bad, but i prefer mainland Cyrodiil.Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
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TerraHawk✭✭Any decent MMO (and other games) is all about balancing incentive, risk and reward.
IC totally FUBARed the balance.
Simple question:
What are gankers risking? They risk no stones and can take 80% of an hours worth of work in 5 seconds.
Their armour takes no damage and if they are killed, they can be back ganking in 15 seconds (districts).
It is profitable for them to go 1v5 just on the chance they kill a single player. Gankers can stake out tunnel
entrances, daily spots or the main base entrance where everyone must travel. No downside to ganking unless
you actually have a soul.
If ZOS gave a cr@p about balance, gankers would have to carry 100 TV stones for every 10% they take from
a working class player. Face it, the Devs put this in because they like using their NBs to gank and have never
read about Loss Aversion (should be required reading for every game dev). When Orsinium arives, IC will be
utterly abandoned.
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✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »im to the point your better off farming Vet Versions of the Dungeons to get your stuff.
They all drop loot that decons into VR16 Matts
All the Agily, Endurance, and willpwer weapons and jewels drop there(where i got mine)
You cna farm the tar out of gold that can be used to buy matts and save yourself the headache,
Really?
Can anyone confirm that the dungeons drop Willpower?
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✭✭✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »im to the point your better off farming Vet Versions of the Dungeons to get your stuff.
They all drop loot that decons into VR16 Matts
All the Agily, Endurance, and willpwer weapons and jewels drop there(where i got mine)
You cna farm the tar out of gold that can be used to buy matts and save yourself the headache,
Really?
Can anyone confirm that the dungeons drop Willpower?
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✭✭✭You just had to say 2 NB and not 2 players. Like it's always the NB. And also putting DC in a bad light because you have to tell it was covenant.
But please, don't blame in on NB. I am a NB and I was also solo grinding to gather mats for crafting. When I engaged a ton of mobs spamming AoE I was ganked by a shielded, detonating, fragment spamming sorc EP. There was nothing I could do and I lost a few stones which isn't the issue but I had to run back looting the mobs I killed.
It happenes. It's PvP. You can expect this.
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Marrtha✭✭✭✭BalticBlues wrote: »The IC is the worst DLC I've bought this year.
It is only about grinding, ganking and zerging.
All PvP players I know are already back in Cyrodiil
where you can find real gameplay instead of the IC nonsense.
For crafters, I really hope that Orsisium will fix the mess,
making V15/V16 mats available with reasonable fun again.
Cannot agree with this more!
I came back to ESO when IC was released just to want to quit again
and even though Orsinium seems cool, how am I gonna do anything alone when my gear is still rank 14 and I can't craft because I don't have the time to grind?? 
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✭✭BalticBlues wrote: »The IC is the worst DLC I've bought this year.
It is only about grinding, ganking and zerging.
All PvP players I know are already back in Cyrodiil
where you can find real gameplay instead of the IC nonsense.
For crafters, I really hope that Orsisium will fix the mess,
making V15/V16 mats available with reasonable fun again.
Cannot agree with this more!
I came back to ESO when IC was released just to want to quit again and even though Orsinium seems cool, how am I gonna do anything alone when my gear is still rank 14 and I can't craft because I don't have the time to grind??
You get the raw mats from nodes in Orsinium, and then refine them into the mats you need.0 -
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✭Use Detect Invisibility potions and learn to play, expect to be ganked, it you can adapt, you can have a lot of fun, if not you're screwed.Edited by Sausage on October 13, 2015 6:10AM1 -
Legedric✭✭✭✭✭Aaaaand another cry and whine thread from someone getting ganked in IC because he knows nothing about self-protection and situational awereness...◄ Legedric the Flamedancer ► - Redguard Dragon Knight
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Marrtha✭✭✭✭BalticBlues wrote: »The IC is the worst DLC I've bought this year.
It is only about grinding, ganking and zerging.
All PvP players I know are already back in Cyrodiil
where you can find real gameplay instead of the IC nonsense.
For crafters, I really hope that Orsisium will fix the mess,
making V15/V16 mats available with reasonable fun again.
Cannot agree with this more!
I came back to ESO when IC was released just to want to quit again and even though Orsinium seems cool, how am I gonna do anything alone when my gear is still rank 14 and I can't craft because I don't have the time to grind??
You get the raw mats from nodes in Orsinium, and then refine them into the mats you need.
Looting max rank raw mats in every fourth node while 100 other people try to do the same thing, I don't think so. Unfortunately Use @Marrtha when replying!0 -
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✭✭RizaHawkeye wrote: »gen_reynard2050 wrote: »Some players are just too lazy to pvp ...
I read this and I laughed ... very hard.
You realize this is a game, right? You know? Like, that thing you do after you work for 35+ hours a week and then go to the university and study so you can eventually become a contributing member of society rather than some freak living in their parents' basement, talking about how they need "alone time," and mooching off their working friends - but all the while bragging about how freakin AWESOME they are ... at a video game.
But I'm sure that's not you. Really.
To the OP: That does suck. Particularly the part about leading the boss to drain your health. This is one of the reasons I won't spend a lot of time in the IC.BalticBlues wrote: »The IC is the worst DLC I've bought this year.
It is only about grinding, ganking and zerging.
All PvP players I know are already back in Cyrodiil
where you can find real gameplay instead of the IC nonsense.
For crafters, I really hope that Orsisium will fix the mess,
making V15/V16 mats available with reasonable fun again.
Cannot agree with this more!
I came back to ESO when IC was released just to want to quit again and even though Orsinium seems cool, how am I gonna do anything alone when my gear is still rank 14 and I can't craft because I don't have the time to grind??
You get the raw mats from nodes in Orsinium, and then refine them into the mats you need.
You realize the nodes are so rare in Orsinium that it is actually quicker to grind and decon mats from IC instead?
Plus in order to have a "Chance" to find those nodes in Orsinium you must have each of your crafting skills for each node at 10/10Far too many characters to list any more.4 -
gen_reynard2050✭✭✭CrowsDescend wrote: »
2 Daggerfall players decide to stealth near my farming spot and wait for me to get low so they can gank me, which is fair, right? but what's annoying is that they purposely drag a boss into me, go stealth with NB cloak so I get aggro and then they gank me with the very last hit so that they get all my stones and run back off to base.
Why do you reward these type of players? why? I'm simply done with IC now and the polymorph of RNG isn't even worth the time.
Let reverse... What would you do? If u see the enemy on farming in IC.. ? Will you wait for your chance to kill the enemy like the others? Or try be good man just pretend see noting when the enemy farming on your spot?
If me... I will take my bow, wait and spam snipe to the enemy... Sorry, but this is a game and just happen becoz you are in wrong zone at the wrong time... 
"What the lion cannot manage to do, the fox can".0 -
Marrtha✭✭✭✭OT: I would let another alliance players alone, because I want to be left alone too. The grinding is tiring enough as it is, the last thing I want is a constant revenge between factions. I am tired of gankers. For some reason, I just can't stomach that kind of mentality in the first place.Use @Marrtha when replying!3
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Unfortunately it's pvp - not everyone has the same mentality to leave players alone. It's either kill or be killed. I in no way condone ganking, but when you're after more stones and see someone struggling with a few NPCs, the temptation to stick a knife in their back is overwhelming.OT: I would let another alliance players alone, because I want to be left alone too. The grinding is tiring enough as it is, the last thing I want is a constant revenge between factions. I am tired of gankers. For some reason, I just can't stomach that kind of mentality in the first place.
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gen_reynard2050✭✭✭OT: I would let another alliance players alone, because I want to be left alone too. The grinding is tiring enough as it is, the last thing I want is a constant revenge between factions. I am tired of gankers. For some reason, I just can't stomach that kind of mentality in the first place.
the next thing, maybe will happen...is when enemy (tat you leave alone) see you on farming, they will kill you.
"often people have it wrong, mistakenly believing... that showing mercy to an enemy is kindness. They spare the foe whose life is in their hands... But don't you see? It's an empty existence... to go on living... alone and unloved... when defeat's already cost you your dream!" haku..
or maybe...in the 1% chance enemy will leave u alone.. happy farming.."What the lion cannot manage to do, the fox can".0 -
Marrtha✭✭✭✭gen_reynard2050 wrote: »OT: I would let another alliance players alone, because I want to be left alone too. The grinding is tiring enough as it is, the last thing I want is a constant revenge between factions. I am tired of gankers. For some reason, I just can't stomach that kind of mentality in the first place.
the next thing, maybe will happen...is when enemy (tat you leave alone) see you on farming, they will kill you.
"often people have it wrong, mistakenly believing... that showing mercy to an enemy is kindness. They spare the foe whose life is in their hands... But don't you see? It's an empty existence... to go on living... alone and unloved... when defeat's already cost you your dream!" haku..
or maybe...in the 1% chance enemy will leave u alone.. happy farming..
This is why I rather zerg. (Not too proud of admitting that, but that is what it comes down to! I also just cloak as half of my group die if *** does go down. Maybe I am just too much of a duck for PvP.)Use @Marrtha when replying!0 -
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✭✭Use Detect Invisibility potions and learn to play, expect to be ganked, it you can adapt, you can have a lot of fun, if not you're screwed.
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Why would I use detect invisibility potions on NPCs that I'm killing, and have been killing every now and then for over 1 month without any problems from enemy players, due to playing on a campaign that is dominated by my own faction?
Why would I need to 'learn to play' if I'm casually killing NPCs for stones in an usually empty location?
You're judging me from one screenshot and my OP, yet you don't even know what actually happened apart from what I've stated in the OP.
When they initially ganked me, I had both of them low health so they vanished into stealth WHILE NPCs were still trying to kill me, like the casters and berserker NPCs who stun, so I did what anybody else would do, kill the NPCs quickly before the players would engage again. What did those players do, instead? They pulled the boss directly into my line of damage.
What's there to L2P about? I already know how to play and can pretty much take on any player, of any class no matter their skill. It's about the situation and the use of a boss (NPC) to do the job, while getting in ONE SINGLE HIT at the end of my death from a distance in sneak.Aaaaand another cry and whine thread from someone getting ganked in IC because he knows nothing about self-protection and situational awereness...
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Edited by ZOS_MaryB on October 13, 2015 12:36PM--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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✭CrowsDescend wrote: »I knew when making this topic that I'd get a bunch of unthoughtful, typical responses but other than that, big respect to those who actually understand how to read and to look at the 'bigger picture' of the situation and the point I'm trying to make here.
Why did you bait and didnt say clearly what you wanted, you even put a picture to create even more contradiction. Usually when you bait, you get bad responses. Successful troll is successful.Edited by Sausage on October 13, 2015 12:09PM0 -
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They don't fix anything from the invested funds so.....
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Er, maybe we've been playing different versions of IC, but zerging is one of the biggest issues. People group into massive balls to sweep through NPCs and smaller groups of players. It's been a fairly large issue that numerous people have mentioned. Pretty much from its release, the zergs out in Cyro itself moved over to IC.This kind of game play is what I like about the Imperial City.
It's fun, unpredictbale, varied. You prefer the same keep zerging over and over?
Alliance PvP was a lot better with mercenaries and forward camps. More options = more strategies = more variety.
Imperial City is what I've been longing for from this game.
It's also hardly "unpredictable" imo. You run around killing mobs and doing quests, with the large chance of getting ganked by enemy players. Except out in Cyro you don't risk losing something you may have worked hours to get in the span of a few seconds.
I hardly see any strategy in IC that's any different than in Cyro proper. Eother people group into massive zergballs to faceroll anything and one they come across, or people will hide out in high-traffic areas to gank others. Where's the strategy? Where's the variety? All I see are the same cheap tactics people relied on before IC dropped.Edited by Arunei on October 13, 2015 12:11PMPC-NA | Been around since closed beta
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