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I wasn't aware that damage is hitting for half the damage on PTS almost on every class!

Forcebuster
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so what happened to biting jabs/puncturing strikes ? why is it dealing so much less dmg than it did before , there was nothing mentioned on the patch notes dahell ZOS? this is currently happening on PTS
  • AfkNinja
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    Nothing in the patch notes. Is this only on the PTS?
  • Forcebuster
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    AfkNinja wrote: »
    Nothing in the patch notes. Is this only on the PTS?

    yea on pts tested with 2 ppl same problem almost half damage on pts than on live even blood craze ticks r double dmg of jabs
  • tinythinker
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    Maybe this is why my magicka templar seems to be burning through magicka so fast, it's taking more hits to do the same damage? Hmm...
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  • ssewallb14_ESO
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    I'm getting this as well. My first though was "Wow, these mobs have a lot of health." Then I look over at FTC and notice my DPS is cut in half. :O
  • Forcebuster
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    I'm getting this as well. My first though was "Wow, these mobs have a lot of health." Then I look over at FTC and notice my DPS is cut in half. :O

    Im gonna test in pvp right it seems all chars are doing less damage it feels like pve has battle spirit on, cuz my healing is still high but the damage is ***
  • DisgracefulMind
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    Yeah, testing on stam and magicka templar. They're both hitting for a very much decreased amount. Stealth nerf?
    Unfortunate magicka warden main.
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  • Gilliamtherogue
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    It's not just templar jabs, it literally all damage forms. I'm hitting for ~50% less on all my attacks as well on a stam nightblade. I don't know what's going on in this patch but I'm getting tired of it. Janky combat out of no where, locking up unable to attack randomly, mobs jittering and teleporting all over the place when my ping is fine. Something is totally messed up on ZoS's end and I hope it gets fixed soon.
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  • zornyan
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    Erm guys don't forget in the new areas you're now battle leveled and I'm pretty sure they said battle spirit buff is applied, which would reduce damage 50%.

    Unless it's just bugged and adding the battle spirit debuffs.
  • DisgracefulMind
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    zornyan wrote: »
    Erm guys don't forget in the new areas you're now battle leveled and I'm pretty sure they said battle spirit buff is applied, which would reduce damage 50%.

    Unless it's just bugged and adding the battle spirit debuffs.

    This is not only in new areas.
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  • Forcebuster
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    zornyan wrote: »
    Erm guys don't forget in the new areas you're now battle leveled and I'm pretty sure they said battle spirit buff is applied, which would reduce damage 50%.

    Unless it's just bugged and adding the battle spirit debuffs.

    yea but the problem is the debuff is happening in all zones all location which will cause all dungeons and boss fights to take longer i just tested pvp out yea it seems everything is battle leveled cyrodil/glenumbra and all tht crap
  • zornyan
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    zornyan wrote: »
    Erm guys don't forget in the new areas you're now battle leveled and I'm pretty sure they said battle spirit buff is applied, which would reduce damage 50%.

    Unless it's just bugged and adding the battle spirit debuffs.

    This is not only in new areas.

    Oh what I admittedly skim read made me believe it was just DLC areas

    So the entire game is now a battle leveled area??

    Does battle leveling still cap at vr 14? Also meaning a brand new character is battle leveled?
  • SleepyTroll
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    Wait so are damage is cut in half in wrothgar? Why? If we're not pvping why? Why ZOS? Why? Why do. You do *** like this? ZOS wtf did you do?
  • ItsMeToo
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    KNOWN ISSUES

    Gameplay •Your stats for Spell Damage, Weapon Damage, Spell Resistance and Physical Resistance while in battle leveled areas (Cyrodiil, Imperial City, Wrothgar and all dungeons) are not currently being displayed accurately in your Character UI; it will appear lower than the stats actually are. This will be resolved in a future PTS patch.
    FYI - There is no such thing as 'night capping' in a world wide MMO.
    FYI - There was no paid Beta. When they launched the game the Beta was over, even if you don't think it was.
    FYI - It's B2P not F2P. There is a difference.
    FYI - It doesn't take any player skill to mash keys or buttons in this game. The ones that stay alive longer have the better internet connection and speed.
    FYI - The game is not broken, it still works. It just has 'bugs' that need to be fixed.
    Balance is a "Bad" thing.

    Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.

    Balance is a "Bad" thing.
    Is the glass half full or half empty?
    I say, "Get a smaller glass."
  • danno8
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    Same here. Damage on live for jabs is around 2000 hit over 3000 crit. On PTS it is 1100 hit 1900 crit. This was in Craglorn btw.

    edit: and yes it does seem to be all skills or at least many of them. My RD is critting for only 7k on a VR 11 mob with 10% health left.
    Edited by danno8 on October 6, 2015 10:54PM
  • SleepyTroll
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    KNOWN ISSUES

    Gameplay •Your stats for Spell Damage, Weapon Damage, Spell Resistance and Physical Resistance while in battle leveled areas (Cyrodiil, Imperial City, Wrothgar and all dungeons) are not currently being displayed accurately in your Character UI; it will appear lower than the stats actually are. This will be resolved in a future PTS patch.

    No there actually doing less damage... Did you even read the thread?
  • Gilliamtherogue
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    KNOWN ISSUES

    Gameplay •Your stats for Spell Damage, Weapon Damage, Spell Resistance and Physical Resistance while in battle leveled areas (Cyrodiil, Imperial City, Wrothgar and all dungeons) are not currently being displayed accurately in your Character UI; it will appear lower than the stats actually are. This will be resolved in a future PTS patch.

    This implies that it is simply a UI error, which it is most definitely not. Please take time to decipher what a post means before you use it as evidence.
    Old member of The Order of Mundus, Mostly Harmless, Hostile, and Genesis Elite. Avid theorycrafter. Herald to competitive stamina DPS pre 1.5. How far we've come!

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  • DisgracefulMind
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    Okay, so I tested on both a Magicka Templar and a Stamina Templar, and damage is, in fact, extremely less. I also tested on a magicka Nightblade, damage decreased significantly. I also tested in PvP on a magicka Sorcerer and then in PvE (in Reaper's March) and the damage is the same. So the "battle level" is being applied EVERY WHERE, no matter what class. This isn't a UI error.
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    I'm thinking that the scaling is happening regardless of who you are and where you are which is fine but OUCH!!!

    Need moar dots!!
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  • ItsMeToo
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    KNOWN ISSUES

    Gameplay •Your stats for Spell Damage, Weapon Damage, Spell Resistance and Physical Resistance while in battle leveled areas (Cyrodiil, Imperial City, Wrothgar and all dungeons) are not currently being displayed accurately in your Character UI; it will appear lower than the stats actually are. This will be resolved in a future PTS patch.

    No there actually doing less damage... Did you even read the thread?

    Yes I did. I always read every post in a thread before I post anything. Do you?

    I just posted this as an FYI. Not as a solution to what is going on.
    FYI - There is no such thing as 'night capping' in a world wide MMO.
    FYI - There was no paid Beta. When they launched the game the Beta was over, even if you don't think it was.
    FYI - It's B2P not F2P. There is a difference.
    FYI - It doesn't take any player skill to mash keys or buttons in this game. The ones that stay alive longer have the better internet connection and speed.
    FYI - The game is not broken, it still works. It just has 'bugs' that need to be fixed.
    Balance is a "Bad" thing.

    Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.

    Balance is a "Bad" thing.
    Is the glass half full or half empty?
    I say, "Get a smaller glass."
  • DisgracefulMind
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    I'm thinking that the scaling is happening regardless of who you are and where you are which is fine but OUCH!!!

    Need moar dots!!

    What are you talking about? This is NOT fine, AT ALL.
    Unfortunate magicka warden main.
    PC/NA Server
    Fairweather Friends
    Retired to baby bgs forever. Leave me alone.
  • ssewallb14_ESO
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    I don't think battle leveling is supposed to downscale, it would be extra effort for no reason to scale it both ways. And if it scaled down rather than up we'd be hitting much less than half.

    ZoS?
  • zornyan
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    It must be a bug that when they've tried to apply battle leveling to certain pve areas it's leaked out into others, and somehow battle spirit is working along side it to reduce damage
  • ItsMeToo
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    KNOWN ISSUES

    Gameplay •Your stats for Spell Damage, Weapon Damage, Spell Resistance and Physical Resistance while in battle leveled areas (Cyrodiil, Imperial City, Wrothgar and all dungeons) are not currently being displayed accurately in your Character UI; it will appear lower than the stats actually are. This will be resolved in a future PTS patch.

    This implies that it is simply a UI error, which it is most definitely not. Please take time to decipher what a post means before you use it as evidence.

    I will post what I want as long as it doesn't violate the ToS. Let the Mods determine what belongs in a thread.

    This was just an FYI, as I have said in another post.

    It came from the Post Notes of the update.
    FYI - There is no such thing as 'night capping' in a world wide MMO.
    FYI - There was no paid Beta. When they launched the game the Beta was over, even if you don't think it was.
    FYI - It's B2P not F2P. There is a difference.
    FYI - It doesn't take any player skill to mash keys or buttons in this game. The ones that stay alive longer have the better internet connection and speed.
    FYI - The game is not broken, it still works. It just has 'bugs' that need to be fixed.
    Balance is a "Bad" thing.

    Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.

    Balance is a "Bad" thing.
    Is the glass half full or half empty?
    I say, "Get a smaller glass."
  • SleepyTroll
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    KNOWN ISSUES

    Gameplay •Your stats for Spell Damage, Weapon Damage, Spell Resistance and Physical Resistance while in battle leveled areas (Cyrodiil, Imperial City, Wrothgar and all dungeons) are not currently being displayed accurately in your Character UI; it will appear lower than the stats actually are. This will be resolved in a future PTS patch.

    No there actually doing less damage... Did you even read the thread?

    Yes I did. I always read every post in a thread before I post anything. Do you?

    I just posted this as an FYI. Not as a solution to what is going on.

    Sometimes? But like if there over 5 pages I skim through. It's ok to not admit your wrong we forgive you:)
    Edited by SleepyTroll on October 6, 2015 11:03PM
  • ItsMeToo
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    KNOWN ISSUES

    Gameplay •Your stats for Spell Damage, Weapon Damage, Spell Resistance and Physical Resistance while in battle leveled areas (Cyrodiil, Imperial City, Wrothgar and all dungeons) are not currently being displayed accurately in your Character UI; it will appear lower than the stats actually are. This will be resolved in a future PTS patch.

    No there actually doing less damage... Did you even read the thread?

    Yes I did. I always read every post in a thread before I post anything. Do you?

    I just posted this as an FYI. Not as a solution to what is going on.

    Sometimes? But like if there over 5 pages I skim through. It's ok to not admit your wrong we forgive you:)

    Time to stop Trolling.
    FYI - There is no such thing as 'night capping' in a world wide MMO.
    FYI - There was no paid Beta. When they launched the game the Beta was over, even if you don't think it was.
    FYI - It's B2P not F2P. There is a difference.
    FYI - It doesn't take any player skill to mash keys or buttons in this game. The ones that stay alive longer have the better internet connection and speed.
    FYI - The game is not broken, it still works. It just has 'bugs' that need to be fixed.
    Balance is a "Bad" thing.

    Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.

    Balance is a "Bad" thing.
    Is the glass half full or half empty?
    I say, "Get a smaller glass."
  • Gilliamtherogue
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    KNOWN ISSUES

    Gameplay •Your stats for Spell Damage, Weapon Damage, Spell Resistance and Physical Resistance while in battle leveled areas (Cyrodiil, Imperial City, Wrothgar and all dungeons) are not currently being displayed accurately in your Character UI; it will appear lower than the stats actually are. This will be resolved in a future PTS patch.

    This implies that it is simply a UI error, which it is most definitely not. Please take time to decipher what a post means before you use it as evidence.

    I will post what I want as long as it doesn't violate the ToS. Let the Mods determine what belongs in a thread.

    This was just an FYI, as I have said in another post.

    It came from the Post Notes of the update.

    You're missing the point that your post bears no relevance to the issue we are discussing in this thread. There is no "FYI" when it does not pertain to this topic. We're saying that the actual damage done by players (not tooltips or character screen UIs) is MUCH less than it is supposed to be. The post you linked to stats that it is simply a UI error, when it is not.
    FYI means for you information, and is used when you are trying to enlighten someone further on something they may have not known in regards to a topic, but there is no FYI to give, since it is indeed, not related.
    Old member of The Order of Mundus, Mostly Harmless, Hostile, and Genesis Elite. Avid theorycrafter. Herald to competitive stamina DPS pre 1.5. How far we've come!

    Have questions? Send me a message on the forums or my other social media. Seeing people learn is my dream and passion.

    Guides and other fun videos at https://youtube.com/c/gilliamtherogue
  • NovaShadow
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    My pts is almost done, but a quick question. Before you go into Cyro you can turn one of these battle lvl things off. Is that still an option and has anyone tried it? Does it make any difference?

    If not, this is utterly stupid. Leave battle lvling in PVP.
    PC NA - EPHS
  • ItsMeToo
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    KNOWN ISSUES

    Gameplay •Your stats for Spell Damage, Weapon Damage, Spell Resistance and Physical Resistance while in battle leveled areas (Cyrodiil, Imperial City, Wrothgar and all dungeons) are not currently being displayed accurately in your Character UI; it will appear lower than the stats actually are. This will be resolved in a future PTS patch.

    This implies that it is simply a UI error, which it is most definitely not. Please take time to decipher what a post means before you use it as evidence.

    I will post what I want as long as it doesn't violate the ToS. Let the Mods determine what belongs in a thread.

    This was just an FYI, as I have said in another post.

    It came from the Post Notes of the update.

    You're missing the point that your post bears no relevance to the issue we are discussing in this thread. There is no "FYI" when it does not pertain to this topic. We're saying that the actual damage done by players (not tooltips or character screen UIs) is MUCH less than it is supposed to be. The post you linked to stats that it is simply a UI error, when it is not.
    FYI means for you information, and is used when you are trying to enlighten someone further on something they may have not known in regards to a topic, but there is no FYI to give, since it is indeed, not related.

    FYI - means, for your information

    Now you can stop Trolling too.
    FYI - There is no such thing as 'night capping' in a world wide MMO.
    FYI - There was no paid Beta. When they launched the game the Beta was over, even if you don't think it was.
    FYI - It's B2P not F2P. There is a difference.
    FYI - It doesn't take any player skill to mash keys or buttons in this game. The ones that stay alive longer have the better internet connection and speed.
    FYI - The game is not broken, it still works. It just has 'bugs' that need to be fixed.
    Balance is a "Bad" thing.

    Example: There were hundreds of Jedi and only two Sith in Star Wars. The Jedi wanted, "Balance in the Force" and they got it. Now there are only two Jedi and two Sith.

    Balance is a "Bad" thing.
    Is the glass half full or half empty?
    I say, "Get a smaller glass."
  • Gilliamtherogue
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    KNOWN ISSUES

    Gameplay •Your stats for Spell Damage, Weapon Damage, Spell Resistance and Physical Resistance while in battle leveled areas (Cyrodiil, Imperial City, Wrothgar and all dungeons) are not currently being displayed accurately in your Character UI; it will appear lower than the stats actually are. This will be resolved in a future PTS patch.

    This implies that it is simply a UI error, which it is most definitely not. Please take time to decipher what a post means before you use it as evidence.

    I will post what I want as long as it doesn't violate the ToS. Let the Mods determine what belongs in a thread.

    This was just an FYI, as I have said in another post.

    It came from the Post Notes of the update.

    You're missing the point that your post bears no relevance to the issue we are discussing in this thread. There is no "FYI" when it does not pertain to this topic. We're saying that the actual damage done by players (not tooltips or character screen UIs) is MUCH less than it is supposed to be. The post you linked to stats that it is simply a UI error, when it is not.
    FYI means for you information, and is used when you are trying to enlighten someone further on something they may have not known in regards to a topic, but there is no FYI to give, since it is indeed, not related.

    FYI - means, for your information

    Now you can stop Trolling too.
    Really? It was a typo. I think you're the one who needs to stop trolling.

    Old member of The Order of Mundus, Mostly Harmless, Hostile, and Genesis Elite. Avid theorycrafter. Herald to competitive stamina DPS pre 1.5. How far we've come!

    Have questions? Send me a message on the forums or my other social media. Seeing people learn is my dream and passion.

    Guides and other fun videos at https://youtube.com/c/gilliamtherogue
  • rokrdt05
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    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    ItsMeToo wrote: »
    KNOWN ISSUES

    Gameplay •Your stats for Spell Damage, Weapon Damage, Spell Resistance and Physical Resistance while in battle leveled areas (Cyrodiil, Imperial City, Wrothgar and all dungeons) are not currently being displayed accurately in your Character UI; it will appear lower than the stats actually are. This will be resolved in a future PTS patch.

    This implies that it is simply a UI error, which it is most definitely not. Please take time to decipher what a post means before you use it as evidence.

    I will post what I want as long as it doesn't violate the ToS. Let the Mods determine what belongs in a thread.

    This was just an FYI, as I have said in another post.

    It came from the Post Notes of the update.

    You're missing the point that your post bears no relevance to the issue we are discussing in this thread. There is no "FYI" when it does not pertain to this topic. We're saying that the actual damage done by players (not tooltips or character screen UIs) is MUCH less than it is supposed to be. The post you linked to stats that it is simply a UI error, when it is not.
    FYI means for you information, and is used when you are trying to enlighten someone further on something they may have not known in regards to a topic, but there is no FYI to give, since it is indeed, not related.

    FYI - means, for your information

    Now you can stop Trolling too.

    This almost feels like a troll itself. To be fair you are pulling the topic off subject defending your stance, let's just move on and keep to the topic discussion.

    As for myself, now that I have gone back and tested it with my magicka Templar, my jabs are doing considerably less than they should. Considering the response from other users, this most definitely seems like a bug and will hopefully be fixed soon or at the very least prior to launch.
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