Why are the Bone Shard and Dark Ether trophy drops so good and all else are horrible?!?!

codybrewer78b14_ESO · September 2015

Rhass wrote: »

Seems like my buddies (a tank and a rogue) collecting the other two armor types have looted from the vaults several times now while I'm still waiting to do just my first with dark ethers and bone shards. So feel free to send those extra trophies my way lol.

Pretty certain it's based on the RNG and luck of the draw.

I play on pc.

There is a loop on the DC side of the sewers that are filled with vampires and mages. The drops for Dark Ether and Bone Shards are insane. You will usually get at least 1 or 2 per mob and sometimes more. Two hours of farming the trophies is usually sufficient for a trip to the trophy vault.

reften · September 2015

These trophy drops and the RNG with turning them in is the most epic grind in an MMO since EQ jboots. So silly that one set of equipment is clearly better then any other set in the game, and there is only one way to obtain it.

So much for variety. Just cookie cutter the builds more.

Callous2208 · September 2015

This thread is actually pretty enlightening for me. I thought it was just rule that planar scrapes were super easy and abundant to come by because I have found stacks upon stacks just roaming around, whereas the claw and teeth grind is a nightmare. Reading through here it seems this isn't the case for everyone. I honestly did not know.

cazlonb16_ESO · September 2015

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

The more important question to ask is why we only have THREE endgame V16 jewelry sets.

Last patch we had over 15 and there was tons of build diversity.

Damage control to put it bluntly, limiting the fallout of scrapping soft caps. Removing them was without a question the most damaging decision in regards to pvp in the history of this game. To be fair, very few, if any, players saw that coming either, but then again we aren't getting paid to do so.

Stacking two full sets plus a 2 set bonus plus cp clearly broke the system. This was only possible because of armour + jewelry sets, so ZOS in their typical fashion put on a band aid "fix" ... It will last only till more people get 1k+ cp of course.

IKilled007 · September 2015

codybrewer78b14_ESO wrote: »

It's just my luck that I would make a tank and a stamina DPS for my main characters and the most difficult V16 jewelry sets to get are for tanking and stamina!! Meanwhile the magicka sets are everywhere! Just look at the price difference between the magicka vs. stamina jewelry! The drop rates are so bad that I've resorted to leveling my magicka DPS character in hopes that I will one day get to use V16 gear.

Dude, ZOS has made it quite clear since beta that you can play your way, but that their preference is everyone wear skirts and sticks. I think the devs grew up watching Harry Potter or something. Skirt/stick magicka builds will always get the best treatment in this game.

IKilled007 · September 2015

Dyride wrote: »

Stam DPS PVP and PVE and I run Endurance jewelry. I just make sure they are Robust and enchant for weapon damage, works really well for me since I want health and regen in my build somewere.

Plus I got all my jewelry in 3 days instead of some people that are still waiting on their agility pieces.

Yup. Endurance was cheap so I am running the 3 piece jewelry also specced for wep damage while I wait for my agility jewelry.

Elder_III · September 2015

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

The more important question to ask is why we only have THREE endgame V16 jewelry sets.

Last patch we had over 15 and there was tons of build diversity.

Exactly --- they NEED to make all sets in the game drop up to VR16. That would give us so much diversity and make choosing your gear fun again instead of forcing everyone into the same cookie cutter.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · September 2015

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

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Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

The more important question to ask is why we only have THREE endgame V16 jewelry sets.

Last patch we had over 15 and there was tons of build diversity.

Damage control to put it bluntly, limiting the fallout of scrapping soft caps. Removing them was without a question the most damaging decision in regards to pvp in the history of this game. To be fair, very few, if any, players saw that coming either, but then again we aren't getting paid to do so.

Stacking two full sets plus a 2 set bonus plus cp clearly broke the system. This was only possible because of armour + jewelry sets, so ZOS in their typical fashion put on a band aid "fix" ... It will last only till more people get 1k+ cp of course.

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I cannot agree more with the emphasized part. The blame however, falls completely on the champion system. While you can get strong damage out of min/maxing set pieces, having 20% more weapon damage by maxing out "mighty" in the champion system makes it ridiculous. Gear diversity is yet another casualty of the champion system which is slowly destroying the game.

Here are the casualties of the champion system/removal of softcaps so far.

Shield nerf - was never an issue in 1.5. Would have never been a problem without bastion/magicka stacking
Dodge rolling nerf - Stamina cost reduction, tumbling passive, mooncalf - all in champion system.
Block nerf - Permablock was fixed in 1.6 would have been fine if not for champion system
Bolt escape nerf - same thing with dodge roll nerf but with magicka cost/regen.
Gear diversity - Now limited by ZOS because the champion system gives so much extra damage/resources

To avoid ridiculous extreme builds, the controls have to go somewhere. But ZOS removed all the controls that were on attributes (softcaps), so now, they have to individually put arbitrary controls on gear, game mechanics (dodge, block), and individual skills (shields, bolt).

The champion system is only going to become more influencial as people grind more CP. They will have to put more and more controls on abilities and mechanics and restrict gear choice even further. This is only going to get worse until the MMO without cooldowns becomes another MMO with cooldowns. All because of the champion system.

Which do you want? The champion system? Complete with continual nerfs on game mechanics and skill/ability cooldowns?

Or a limited amount of resources/damage/regen and the ability to build for whatever roll you want (which is already limited by 7 armor slots, 3 jewelry slots, and up to 2 weapon slots(per bar).

JDar · September 2015

What's that you say? Stamina is getting the short end of the stick? Let me find my violin...might take me a while. After all it is the world's smallest.

CtrlAltDlt · September 2015

It is bad enough that the rng for agility rings is aweful, on top of that the drop rate of Monstrous Tooth is horrible. PLEASE PLEASE increase the drop rate of agility trophies, what is up with the drop rate disparity compared to the other trophies??

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Malyck · September 2015

Is there a mapping of what trophies drop which items? I have only collected planar scraps and bloody claws so far, so I have not seen what the other trophy vaults drop.

Master_Kas · September 2015

Malyck wrote: »

Is there a mapping of what trophies drop which items? I have only collected planar scraps and bloody claws so far, so I have not seen what the other trophy vaults drop.

Bloody Claw||Monstrious Tooth = agilty

Bone Shard || Dark Ether = willpower

Planar + Mark of legion = Endurance

Malyck · September 2015

Master_Kas wrote: »

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Malyck wrote: »

Is there a mapping of what trophies drop which items? I have only collected planar scraps and bloody claws so far, so I have not seen what the other trophy vaults drop.

Bloody Claw||Monstrious Tooth = agilty

Bone Shard || Dark Ether = willpower

Planar + Mark of legion = Endurance

Thanks!

Aunatar · September 2015

Master_Kas wrote: »

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Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

The more important question to ask is why we only have THREE endgame V16 jewelry sets.

Last patch we had over 15 and there was tons of build diversity.

This is so true. 3 endgame v16 jewerly sets? ZOS you want build diversity? Yea right

"We added new set that will promote more hybrid builds" Yeah zeni!! :'D

Geemarc · September 2015

I play as AD on EU PS4 mainly farming in the sewers and the drop rate seems fairly even (monster teeth drops are lower for me but that could just be RNG).

So far:

Blood Claws 75
Bone shards 59
Dark Ether 42
Mark of Legion 56
Monster tooth 13
Planer Armor Scraps 83

codybrewer78b14_ESO · September 2015

Geemarc wrote: »

I play as AD on EU PS4 mainly farming in the sewers and the drop rate seems fairly even (monster teeth drops are lower for me but that could just be RNG).

So far:

Blood Claws 75
Bone shards 59
Dark Ether 42
Mark of Legion 56
Monster tooth 13
Planer Armor Scraps 83

Can you tell me where you get most of your Bloody Claw drops at?

codybrewer78b14_ESO · September 2015

So the patch notes say that they increased the drop rate of Bloody Claws and Monstrous Teeth. I just spent 2 hours farming Daedroth, Clanfear, Harvesters, and Ogrims in the sewers and Have 9 Bloody Claws and 0 Monstrous teeth to show for it. Did they only increase the drop rate for certain areas of IC or is this a flat out lie?

sagitter · September 2015

codybrewer78b14_ESO wrote: »

So the patch notes say that they increased the drop rate of Bloody Claws and Monstrous Teeth. I just spent 2 hours farming Daedroth, Clanfear, Harvesters, and Ogrims in the sewers and Have 9 Bloody Claws and 0 Monstrous teeth to show for it. Did they only increase the drop rate for certain areas of IC or is this a flat out lie?

About 45 min farming that mobs and only 1 bloody claw. Seems like nothing has changed.

Emma_Overload · September 2015

IKilled007 wrote: »

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codybrewer78b14_ESO wrote: »

It's just my luck that I would make a tank and a stamina DPS for my main characters and the most difficult V16 jewelry sets to get are for tanking and stamina!! Meanwhile the magicka sets are everywhere! Just look at the price difference between the magicka vs. stamina jewelry! The drop rates are so bad that I've resorted to leveling my magicka DPS character in hopes that I will one day get to use V16 gear.

Dude, ZOS has made it quite clear since beta that you can play your way, but that their preference is everyone wear skirts and sticks. I think the devs grew up watching Harry Potter or something. Skirt/stick magicka builds will always get the best treatment in this game.

This is the most false thing I've ever read on these forums. Since late 2014, ZOS has RELENTLESSLY buffed stamina builds and nerfed magicka. The result of this is that I get hit with Wrecking Blows for 10K or even 12K in IC, but my Crystal Frags NEVER do that much damage, no matter what I sacrifice to stack spell damage.

Stamina builds get MORE damage, MORE crit, MORE regen and MORE armor. And you're still complaining? LOL.

Legedric · September 2015

The drop rates are still way too low... 1 hour of farming zombies got me like 20 Ether and 15 Shards, 1 hour of farming deadroth, Clanfear etc. got me 3 Claws and 0 Teeth...

Sounds as bad as it was before 2.1.7 to me.

CtrlAltDlt · September 2015

Ag

Legedric wrote: »

The drop rates are still way too low... 1 hour of farming zombies got me like 20 Ether and 15 Shards, 1 hour of farming deadroth, Clanfear etc. got me 3 Claws and 0 Teeth...

Sounds as bad as it was before 2.1.7 to me.

Sure seems that way

tist · September 2015

Why I started selling my bones/ether. Made over 200k and just bought my arcane rings.

sagitter · September 2015

Legedric wrote: »

The drop rates are still way too low... 1 hour of farming zombies got me like 20 Ether and 15 Shards, 1 hour of farming deadroth, Clanfear etc. got me 3 Claws and 0 Teeth...

Sounds as bad as it was before 2.1.7 to me.

Yeah , that's is what i was talking about in another thread, and that's why agility items are rarest than willpower.It's not a fairplay between stamina and magicka.

Legedric · September 2015

You only need to look at the prices to see the difference... Magicka rings with Arcane go for 200k right now and Stamina rings with perfect trait go for 550k+...