Instant kill builds still exists

Maulkin · September 2015

Iyas wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I know you don't respond to being summoned but I am going to do it anyway.
@ZOS_RichLambert

I've figured out how to prevent this from killing me most of the time, but it ends up with me running a build I don't really want to run. It would be awesome if camo hunter wasn't proccing 2-3 times inside of one global.

In this Pic camo procced onces. SNEAK damage AND the NORMAL damage of camo.
But as you said before, apparently there are people that can avoid the cooldown, I have not seen one tho yet

That dude died because he had a bad reaction time + the NB prolly did a good job animation canceling his skills.

Bad reaction time ? Are you kidding me? In the big fight that I described you cannot hear the snipe and when I got the stun animation I was already dead.

I guess you are right there..but why create a topic about it? I mean in big fights shizzle happens and when you dont block for a second and you get many hits then RIP anyway.
This rarely happens so why bother with it?

If you want to prevent this just stack HP up to 35k
or wear Pheonix set
or a permablocker uses "Guard" skill
or use radiant magelight to reduce sneak crit dmg of enemy.

I mean when Snipe,ambush,soulharvest hits you at the same time then you are dead pretty sure if you dont block.
Animation canceling is the issue. You dont need macros for it, if you know how it works then no problemo to combo stuff.

It just annoys me that people want to get rid of ALL the skills and we end up Heavy/Light attacking...If there is no burst skills then we will be playing 1v1s that take 10mins and in the end ppl just walk away bc they cant kill each other. the 50% dmg reduction is already too high...

Says the oneshot ganker

Alcast's views, summed up in 2 lines:

- Magicka builds using shields...... baddies that abuse broken mechanics and must be punished.
- Stamina builds doing +20k burst damage from stealth in 1"...... rofl it's your problem L2P noob, dodge, block etc. etc.

Tankqull · September 2015

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Now the NB's have all the new sets they've returned to ganking. You'll never get rid of it, especially the perma-stun combo we see here. It doesn't even require a macro, like someone already said you just cast all 3 abilities almost at once.

Most gankers get a thrill out of it. They'll just do it to the same person over and over not caring they're not gaining AP, tel var, XP etc. It just turns them on that they're ruining your objective.

You get rid of it, the same way they fixed most other stuff...Cooldowns

right now, Your Weapon Enchant has an Internal Cooldown...Torug Pact reduces this by 1 sec...so your weapon enchant can only proc onces every X amoutn of seconds.

Undaunted Sets like Valkyn Skoria and Bloodspawn have internal cooldowns...Skoira can only proc meteors onces every 6 seconds i do beleive.

You fix stealth by adding an internal cooldown to the stealth daamge bonus and adding a timer to the character performing the stealth attack just like they did with Valkyn Skoria.

So say a 2-3 second cooldown on the stealth damage bonus would be about right, That means they could only get a stealth damage attack bonus once every 2-3 seconds. Put a timer on the player who initates the stealth attack and no more bonus until the timer expires.

this stops getting 4 Camo procs from Stealth

this stops 3-4 bow attacks or others from all getting the stealth damage bonus at the same time, with a cooldown only 1 of them would get the bonus.

This is the only way you will ever truly fix this, Being able to land multiple attacks with a stealth bonus is no different then the folks who were stacking Wall of elements on top of each other for stupid damage last year...its an abuse of mechanics that needs to be fixed.

The only question is, does ZOS care enough about their game to fix it, or will they just nerf global damage again which won't fix the underlying issue of the fact landing more then 1 stealth attack at the same time simply shouldn't be possible.

Then again, i guess Valkyn Skoria should have no cooldown and should be able to proc multiple meteors at the same time all the time, and Wall of Elements should be able to stack again....

how should Cooldowns help here? the problem is the netcode not registering stealth abilities properly. its just BS that two attacks are labeld as attacks from stealth by the engine because it is to shabby to realize that one or both have an actual traveltime and the server recognizing phase for attacks is a to large window acceptring bothg to be from stealth granting one sure camo proc and one hihgly likely.
cooldowns are only a cheap cop out for poor network coding.

Mojomonkeyman · September 2015

Iyas wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I know you don't respond to being summoned but I am going to do it anyway.
@ZOS_RichLambert

I've figured out how to prevent this from killing me most of the time, but it ends up with me running a build I don't really want to run. It would be awesome if camo hunter wasn't proccing 2-3 times inside of one global.

In this Pic camo procced onces. SNEAK damage AND the NORMAL damage of camo.
But as you said before, apparently there are people that can avoid the cooldown, I have not seen one tho yet

That dude died because he had a bad reaction time + the NB prolly did a good job animation canceling his skills.

Bad reaction time ? Are you kidding me? In the big fight that I described you cannot hear the snipe and when I got the stun animation I was already dead.

I guess you are right there..but why create a topic about it? I mean in big fights shizzle happens and when you dont block for a second and you get many hits then RIP anyway.
This rarely happens so why bother with it?

If you want to prevent this just stack HP up to 35k
or wear Pheonix set
or a permablocker uses "Guard" skill
or use radiant magelight to reduce sneak crit dmg of enemy.

I mean when Snipe,ambush,soulharvest hits you at the same time then you are dead pretty sure if you dont block.
Animation canceling is the issue. You dont need macros for it, if you know how it works then no problemo to combo stuff.

It just annoys me that people want to get rid of ALL the skills and we end up Heavy/Light attacking...If there is no burst skills then we will be playing 1v1s that take 10mins and in the end ppl just walk away bc they cant kill each other. the 50% dmg reduction is already too high...

Says the oneshot ganker

Haha, I was trying so hard to not write this, love you

Docmandu · September 2015

Tankqull wrote: »

the problem is the netcode not registering stealth abilities properly. its just BS that two attacks are labeld as attacks from stealth by the engine because it is to shabby to realize that one or both have an actual traveltime and the server recognizing phase for attacks is a to large window acceptring bothg to be from stealth granting one sure camo proc and one hihgly likely.
cooldowns are only a cheap cop out for poor network coding.

This has been claimed on the forums before, but wonder if this info comes from somebody that actually reverse engineered the client and KNOWS for a fact that that is what happening, or just sheep repeating something somebody once claimed while not knowing what he was talking about.

Personally I think it's BS, because damage is most likely (hopefully) calculated on the server side, not on the client... else you'd get nice client side hacks that make you invulnerable.

Tankqull · September 2015

Docmandu wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

the problem is the netcode not registering stealth abilities properly. its just BS that two attacks are labeld as attacks from stealth by the engine because it is to shabby to realize that one or both have an actual traveltime and the server recognizing phase for attacks is a to large window acceptring bothg to be from stealth granting one sure camo proc and one hihgly likely.
cooldowns are only a cheap cop out for poor network coding.

This has been claimed on the forums before, but wonder if this info comes from somebody that actually reverse engineered the client and KNOWS for a fact that that is what happening, or just sheep repeating something somebody once claimed while not knowing what he was talking about.

Personally I think it's BS, because damage is most likely (hopefully) calculated on the server side, not on the client... else you'd get nice client side hacks that make you invulnerable.

this is what you observe when you play a class with attacks profiting from by being stealthed.
e.g. NB if you are really lucky in hitting the stealth detection window you can have a snipe and an ambush with stealth empowering(dmg increased on both attacks significantly) and on top of that apply a long duration cc on your opponent with surprise attack.
and that would not happen if the client-server-client communication would be worthwhile.
another super example for the shabbyness of this netcode is that you are able to WB someone from stealth from his front who has magelight running and still get the stealth bonus as the stealthcheck timeframe is so freaking hughe...
the problem is they forced to many computations onto the serverpool (primary example is the smart healing system a classic targeted heal system would reduce the number of computations per aplication tremendously) and have to compensate for this in other regards wich can be totally "gamebreaking" like stealth detection and recognition.

Jitterbug · September 2015

lp2 issue

the game clearly states that you should use food or drink

:P

Ghostbane · September 2015

DovresMalven wrote: »

Hugh gonna get pwnd by an epic dragonleap right there..

Then again with the DK ninja nerfs,

If the opponent is wearing a hat, DKs wings explode for x damage

bosmern_ESO · September 2015

ZoS wont fix it, they'll just put a band aid over it and hope that it goes away, after all thats where the 50% damage reduction came from.

Docmandu · September 2015

Tankqull wrote: »

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Like I thought .. guess work and here say...

Robbmrp · September 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

Which passive is broken?

Judging by the screenshot it is clear that undeath is working perfectly. Empowered Soul Harvest for only 4606?

Soul harvest is not empowered because it lands after the focus aim. Focus aim is the empowered skill.
For the rest who said that this is not one shot build because the attacks are 3 + 2 procs you are right. But I guess that you know what I mean. All these attacks lands in 1 second interval and you cannot react. It is not so easy to execute this combo in a massive fight between the three factions because of the stupid district design. We were literally killing each other for 1h just jumping from the respawn place.

I guess that depends on the timing of the hits. I haven't always found the death recap to be accurate from a sequencing standpoint. The focused aim seems pretty weak for hitting from stealth while the soul harvest seems pretty high for hitting a vampire with undeath .

Yeah, the Death Recaps just plain suck. I can easily see how people think macros are being used and they may be, but not by as many as people think. I saw one attack last night and was dead in less than 2 seconds. In looking back at the recap I was hit by 3 different people....doh!

Maulkin · September 2015

Docmandu wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

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Like I thought .. guess work and here say...

Tbf it matters not a jot. The simple fact is you have multiple attacks receiving stealth bonus and thus end up with multiple procs of camo hunter and that should not be happening. Period.

In fact if they had fixed this mess up in the first place, we wouldn't need such a dramatic nerf in damage which is what we got.

Ezareth · September 2015

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Docmandu wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

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Like I thought .. guess work and here say...

Tbf it matters not a jot. The simple fact is you have multiple attacks receiving stealth bonus and thus end up with multiple procs of camo hunter and that should not be happening. Period.

In fact if they had fixed this mess up in the first place, we wouldn't need such a dramatic nerf in damage which is what we got.

Yeah having multiple attacks get the stealth guaranteed crit and bonus damage is over the top. If they'd just change the stealth crit bonus to be awarded upon hitting your target instead of when you use the ability this wouldn't even be an issue. The first attack to hit would get the bonus, pull you out of stealth and everything works as it should.

Takllin · September 2015

Yeah last night I was one shot by a NB in stealth with a single DW heavy attack + a 13k camo hunter proc and another 5k camo hunter proc in the same attack. That cooldown definitely WAI...

There will always be people who abuse broken mechanics to gain an advantage. Baddies gonna be bad.

Emma_Overload · September 2015

Bashev wrote: »

I play with 7 heavy and I am a vampire. But I got one shotted. Now most of you will say drop vampire and *** like that but the problem is that the vamp passive is broken after the last update. And even if I wasnt a vampire after this combo that NB will fear and surprise attack me to death.

All the scumbag gankers use Camo Hunter now. I dropped Vampirism last night just because of this issue.

I'm so pissed!

Yonkit · September 2015

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

I play with 7 heavy and I am a vampire. But I got one shotted. Now most of you will say drop vampire and *** like that but the problem is that the vamp passive is broken after the last update. And even if I wasnt a vampire after this combo that NB will fear and surprise attack me to death.

All the scumbag gankers use Camo Hunter now. I dropped Vampirism last night just because of this issue.

I'm so pissed!

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most people that are using camo hunter now were using it before... And calling someone a scumbag because they are continuing to play the way they've played for months if not a year is kinda... meh. When whip was broken and going through dodge, did you hear every nb go around calling dk's a bunch of scumbags? I bet they're all using whip right now! Well yes... they are. Likewise, every stam build should be using camo hunter actively.

Ezareth · September 2015

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

I play with 7 heavy and I am a vampire. But I got one shotted. Now most of you will say drop vampire and *** like that but the problem is that the vamp passive is broken after the last update. And even if I wasnt a vampire after this combo that NB will fear and surprise attack me to death.

All the scumbag gankers use Camo Hunter now. I dropped Vampirism last night just because of this issue.

I'm so pissed!

The issue is it is very powerful in IC period. Against vamps and daedra. Outside of IC you'll find it less popular but either way, that is the price you pay for being a Vamp. If you want to PvP as a Vampire, get used to bad players killing you with cheesy abilities. Dawnbreaker, Camo Hunter, Silver Bolts (lol).

Alcast · September 2015

Iyas wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I know you don't respond to being summoned but I am going to do it anyway.
@ZOS_RichLambert

I've figured out how to prevent this from killing me most of the time, but it ends up with me running a build I don't really want to run. It would be awesome if camo hunter wasn't proccing 2-3 times inside of one global.

In this Pic camo procced onces. SNEAK damage AND the NORMAL damage of camo.
But as you said before, apparently there are people that can avoid the cooldown, I have not seen one tho yet

That dude died because he had a bad reaction time + the NB prolly did a good job animation canceling his skills.

Bad reaction time ? Are you kidding me? In the big fight that I described you cannot hear the snipe and when I got the stun animation I was already dead.

I guess you are right there..but why create a topic about it? I mean in big fights shizzle happens and when you dont block for a second and you get many hits then RIP anyway.
This rarely happens so why bother with it?

If you want to prevent this just stack HP up to 35k
or wear Pheonix set
or a permablocker uses "Guard" skill
or use radiant magelight to reduce sneak crit dmg of enemy.

I mean when Snipe,ambush,soulharvest hits you at the same time then you are dead pretty sure if you dont block.
Animation canceling is the issue. You dont need macros for it, if you know how it works then no problemo to combo stuff.

It just annoys me that people want to get rid of ALL the skills and we end up Heavy/Light attacking...If there is no burst skills then we will be playing 1v1s that take 10mins and in the end ppl just walk away bc they cant kill each other. the 50% dmg reduction is already too high...

Says the oneshot ganker

used to, not anymore as my skills max hit for 10k thanks to the awesomo 50% dmg mitigation

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I know you don't respond to being summoned but I am going to do it anyway.
@ZOS_RichLambert

I've figured out how to prevent this from killing me most of the time, but it ends up with me running a build I don't really want to run. It would be awesome if camo hunter wasn't proccing 2-3 times inside of one global.

In this Pic camo procced onces. SNEAK damage AND the NORMAL damage of camo.
But as you said before, apparently there are people that can avoid the cooldown, I have not seen one tho yet

That dude died because he had a bad reaction time + the NB prolly did a good job animation canceling his skills.

Bad reaction time ? Are you kidding me? In the big fight that I described you cannot hear the snipe and when I got the stun animation I was already dead.

I guess you are right there..but why create a topic about it? I mean in big fights shizzle happens and when you dont block for a second and you get many hits then RIP anyway.
This rarely happens so why bother with it?

If you want to prevent this just stack HP up to 35k
or wear Pheonix set
or a permablocker uses "Guard" skill
or use radiant magelight to reduce sneak crit dmg of enemy.

I mean when Snipe,ambush,soulharvest hits you at the same time then you are dead pretty sure if you dont block.
Animation canceling is the issue. You dont need macros for it, if you know how it works then no problemo to combo stuff.

It just annoys me that people want to get rid of ALL the skills and we end up Heavy/Light attacking...If there is no burst skills then we will be playing 1v1s that take 10mins and in the end ppl just walk away bc they cant kill each other. the 50% dmg reduction is already too high...

Says the oneshot ganker

Alcast's views, summed up in 2 lines:

- Magicka builds using shields...... baddies that abuse broken mechanics and must be punished.
- Stamina builds doing +20k burst damage from stealth in 1"...... rofl it's your problem L2P noob, dodge, block etc. etc.

But you fine with Magika dudes hitting for 20k with det and other shizzle? i guess thats ok..

no matter if you are stam or magicka, if you want to nuke somebody down you can...

Maulkin · September 2015

Alcast wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I know you don't respond to being summoned but I am going to do it anyway.
@ZOS_RichLambert

I've figured out how to prevent this from killing me most of the time, but it ends up with me running a build I don't really want to run. It would be awesome if camo hunter wasn't proccing 2-3 times inside of one global.

In this Pic camo procced onces. SNEAK damage AND the NORMAL damage of camo.
But as you said before, apparently there are people that can avoid the cooldown, I have not seen one tho yet

That dude died because he had a bad reaction time + the NB prolly did a good job animation canceling his skills.

Bad reaction time ? Are you kidding me? In the big fight that I described you cannot hear the snipe and when I got the stun animation I was already dead.

I guess you are right there..but why create a topic about it? I mean in big fights shizzle happens and when you dont block for a second and you get many hits then RIP anyway.
This rarely happens so why bother with it?

If you want to prevent this just stack HP up to 35k
or wear Pheonix set
or a permablocker uses "Guard" skill
or use radiant magelight to reduce sneak crit dmg of enemy.

I mean when Snipe,ambush,soulharvest hits you at the same time then you are dead pretty sure if you dont block.
Animation canceling is the issue. You dont need macros for it, if you know how it works then no problemo to combo stuff.

It just annoys me that people want to get rid of ALL the skills and we end up Heavy/Light attacking...If there is no burst skills then we will be playing 1v1s that take 10mins and in the end ppl just walk away bc they cant kill each other. the 50% dmg reduction is already too high...

Says the oneshot ganker

used to, not anymore as my skills max hit for 10k thanks to the awesomo 50% dmg mitigation

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I know you don't respond to being summoned but I am going to do it anyway.
@ZOS_RichLambert

I've figured out how to prevent this from killing me most of the time, but it ends up with me running a build I don't really want to run. It would be awesome if camo hunter wasn't proccing 2-3 times inside of one global.

In this Pic camo procced onces. SNEAK damage AND the NORMAL damage of camo.
But as you said before, apparently there are people that can avoid the cooldown, I have not seen one tho yet

That dude died because he had a bad reaction time + the NB prolly did a good job animation canceling his skills.

Bad reaction time ? Are you kidding me? In the big fight that I described you cannot hear the snipe and when I got the stun animation I was already dead.

I guess you are right there..but why create a topic about it? I mean in big fights shizzle happens and when you dont block for a second and you get many hits then RIP anyway.
This rarely happens so why bother with it?

If you want to prevent this just stack HP up to 35k
or wear Pheonix set
or a permablocker uses "Guard" skill
or use radiant magelight to reduce sneak crit dmg of enemy.

I mean when Snipe,ambush,soulharvest hits you at the same time then you are dead pretty sure if you dont block.
Animation canceling is the issue. You dont need macros for it, if you know how it works then no problemo to combo stuff.

It just annoys me that people want to get rid of ALL the skills and we end up Heavy/Light attacking...If there is no burst skills then we will be playing 1v1s that take 10mins and in the end ppl just walk away bc they cant kill each other. the 50% dmg reduction is already too high...

Says the oneshot ganker

Alcast's views, summed up in 2 lines:

- Magicka builds using shields...... baddies that abuse broken mechanics and must be punished.
- Stamina builds doing +20k burst damage from stealth in 1"...... rofl it's your problem L2P noob, dodge, block etc. etc.

But you fine with Magika dudes hitting for 20k with det and other shizzle? i guess thats ok..

no matter if you are stam or magicka, if you want to nuke somebody down you can...

Lol

I'm not ok with +20k prox dets, never was. And I have yet to see one in 2.1 do anywhere near the damage you are describing. Hardest I've been hit for was an 11k crit so far.

And Prox Det has a giant red circle for 8", which is at least is very visible warning. While you get absolutely zilch for incoming stealth attacks. So it's not even on the same planet.

But, stay there telling me to stack 35k HP and phoenix set to counter what is essentially a broken mechanic (multiple attacks getting stealth bonus).

Alcast · September 2015

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I know you don't respond to being summoned but I am going to do it anyway.
@ZOS_RichLambert

I've figured out how to prevent this from killing me most of the time, but it ends up with me running a build I don't really want to run. It would be awesome if camo hunter wasn't proccing 2-3 times inside of one global.

In this Pic camo procced onces. SNEAK damage AND the NORMAL damage of camo.
But as you said before, apparently there are people that can avoid the cooldown, I have not seen one tho yet

That dude died because he had a bad reaction time + the NB prolly did a good job animation canceling his skills.

Bad reaction time ? Are you kidding me? In the big fight that I described you cannot hear the snipe and when I got the stun animation I was already dead.

I guess you are right there..but why create a topic about it? I mean in big fights shizzle happens and when you dont block for a second and you get many hits then RIP anyway.
This rarely happens so why bother with it?

If you want to prevent this just stack HP up to 35k
or wear Pheonix set
or a permablocker uses "Guard" skill
or use radiant magelight to reduce sneak crit dmg of enemy.

I mean when Snipe,ambush,soulharvest hits you at the same time then you are dead pretty sure if you dont block.
Animation canceling is the issue. You dont need macros for it, if you know how it works then no problemo to combo stuff.

It just annoys me that people want to get rid of ALL the skills and we end up Heavy/Light attacking...If there is no burst skills then we will be playing 1v1s that take 10mins and in the end ppl just walk away bc they cant kill each other. the 50% dmg reduction is already too high...

Says the oneshot ganker

used to, not anymore as my skills max hit for 10k thanks to the awesomo 50% dmg mitigation

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

I know you don't respond to being summoned but I am going to do it anyway.
@ZOS_RichLambert

I've figured out how to prevent this from killing me most of the time, but it ends up with me running a build I don't really want to run. It would be awesome if camo hunter wasn't proccing 2-3 times inside of one global.

In this Pic camo procced onces. SNEAK damage AND the NORMAL damage of camo.
But as you said before, apparently there are people that can avoid the cooldown, I have not seen one tho yet

That dude died because he had a bad reaction time + the NB prolly did a good job animation canceling his skills.

Bad reaction time ? Are you kidding me? In the big fight that I described you cannot hear the snipe and when I got the stun animation I was already dead.

I guess you are right there..but why create a topic about it? I mean in big fights shizzle happens and when you dont block for a second and you get many hits then RIP anyway.
This rarely happens so why bother with it?

If you want to prevent this just stack HP up to 35k
or wear Pheonix set
or a permablocker uses "Guard" skill
or use radiant magelight to reduce sneak crit dmg of enemy.

I mean when Snipe,ambush,soulharvest hits you at the same time then you are dead pretty sure if you dont block.
Animation canceling is the issue. You dont need macros for it, if you know how it works then no problemo to combo stuff.

It just annoys me that people want to get rid of ALL the skills and we end up Heavy/Light attacking...If there is no burst skills then we will be playing 1v1s that take 10mins and in the end ppl just walk away bc they cant kill each other. the 50% dmg reduction is already too high...

Says the oneshot ganker

Alcast's views, summed up in 2 lines:

- Magicka builds using shields...... baddies that abuse broken mechanics and must be punished.
- Stamina builds doing +20k burst damage from stealth in 1"...... rofl it's your problem L2P noob, dodge, block etc. etc.

But you fine with Magika dudes hitting for 20k with det and other shizzle? i guess thats ok..

no matter if you are stam or magicka, if you want to nuke somebody down you can...

Lol

I'm not ok with +20k prox dets, never was. And I have yet to see one in 2.1 do anywhere near the damage you are describing. Hardest I've been hit by was an 11k crit so far.

And Prox Det has a giant red circle of 8", which is at least is very visible warning. While you get absolutely zilch for incoming stealth attacks. So it's not even on the same planet.

But, stay there telling me to stack 35k HP and phoenix set to counter what is essentially a broken mechanic (multiple attacks getting stealth bonus).

Prox det+Lotus+Soul Harvest voila 20k+. AND yes all in 1s possible..same shizzle with smipe+ambush+soulharvetst

If you cant achieve that then well...l...2p?

Prolly nor me and you have those *** burst builds but yet we fight over them.. >.>
ESO offi Forum is here to QQ, i do the same, always fun to see how ppl react to it

If you want to get some serious talk done then go Tamrielfoundry

Master_Kas · September 2015

It is because you are a vamp.

Buffed dawnbreaker of smiting can nearly oneshot you too if you are vamp.

Just tested a friends high spelldmg build.

With 25% reduced magick dmg from CP, and nearly 20k AR/SR buffed his dawnbreaker of smiting did 16k dmg + 6k dmg dot.

WITH the damage reduction so not talking about 1.6.

Don't be a vampire unless you're willing to pay the price for being one.

whyyounolose · September 2015

is

velocious curse +
crystal frag +
entropy +
endless fury

a similar thing?

Poxheart · September 2015

Takllin wrote: »

Yeah last night I was one shot by a NB in stealth with a single DW heavy attack + a 13k camo hunter proc and another 5k camo hunter proc in the same attack. That cooldown definitely WAI...

I had the same thing happen to me last week. I believe hunter proc'd on each of the weapons in the DW heavy attack.

FireCowCommando · September 2015

Yeah, ive been hit by a 22K dawnbreaker.

Meanwhile, Radial sweep is still waiting for me to put points back into it, maybe next year!

Mr_Nobody · September 2015

I keep checking this thread for any of NA Chillrend EP to post a picture receiving 15k Dark Flares and DBs

WalksAmongShadows · September 2015

Poxheart wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

Yeah last night I was one shot by a NB in stealth with a single DW heavy attack + a 13k camo hunter proc and another 5k camo hunter proc in the same attack. That cooldown definitely WAI...

I had the same thing happen to me last week. I believe hunter proc'd on each of the weapons in the DW heavy attack.

This is correct. DW heavy attack is split to multiple instances of damage however the game still treats it as one attack. You get 4 separate numbers in your combat log, but if it's a 1-shot, AP+exp gained will be listed right after the first number in your log as you can see here:

A weapon enchantment proc would be a 'second' attack on top of this, but it simply won't proc because the target is already 1-shot.

I also believe the that camo hunter has two different cooldown timers, one for the stealth attack, other for the non-stealth proc as I have managed to follow up the heavy attack instantly with a surprise attack and have yet another camo hunter proc, albeit for significantly less damage. This was tested on an emperor because of their large health pools. From what I've gathered in my testing, the non-stealth attack proc on camo hunter seems to be working as intended when it comes to the cooldown.

kadar · September 2015

Oh my Lordie, Lord. So much misinformation and misunderstanding on this thread. Now I don't know all things, but concerning camo hunter...The entire point of camo hunter is that it deals damage to undead and Daedra when used out of stealth. Based on the tooltip...the first proc of camo hunter is guaranteed. There is no macro/exploit/glitch/bug.
Frankly, its good to see this still exists after the 50% damage reduction. Hope this clears some things up!

Dredlord · September 2015

Jules wrote: »

One shot generally means

One
Shot

No sorry idiot stick...

One shot generally means in mmo,s the player is dead without the opportunity to react.

Damn dribblers trying to argue semantics when the issue is game balance.

Game balance is fail when the outcome is decided before the first hit.

Alcast · September 2015

Dredlord wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

One shot generally means

One
Shot

No sorry idiot stick...

One shot generally means in mmo,s the player is dead without the opportunity to react.

Damn dribblers trying to argue semantics when the issue is game balance.

Game balance is fail when the outcome is decided before the first hit.

If you manage to get oneshot with the 50% dmg mitigation in this game then it is a l2p issue. Before the IC Patch the QQ was justified, but now...lol

Docmandu · September 2015

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Docmandu wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

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Like I thought .. guess work and here say...

Tbf it matters not a jot. The simple fact is you have multiple attacks receiving stealth bonus and thus end up with multiple procs of camo hunter and that should not be happening. Period.

In fact if they had fixed this mess up in the first place, we wouldn't need such a dramatic nerf in damage which is what we got.

That I agree with...

WalksAmongShadows · September 2015

The_Outsider wrote: »

Oh my Lordie, Lord. So much misinformation and misunderstanding on this thread. Now I don't know all things, but concerning camo hunter...The entire point of camo hunter is that it deals damage to undead and Daedra when used out of stealth. Based on the tooltip...the first proc of camo hunter is guaranteed. There is no macro/exploit/glitch/bug.
Frankly, its good to see this still exists after the 50% damage reduction. Hope this clears some things up!

Let me clarify: the stealth attack is separate and it does not seem to trigger any cooldown at all on the rng proc, so it's not the 'first proc of camo hunter', it is a whole different instance of dmg. Guess they figured it doesn't need to be coded to the same timer because, you know, who can pull off a second stealth attack right away anyway, with the entering combat, getting to stealth and all?