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Instant kill builds still exists

Bashev
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I play with 7 heavy and I am a vampire. But I got one shotted. Now most of you will say drop vampire and *** like that but the problem is that the vamp passive is broken after the last update. And even if I wasnt a vampire after this combo that NB will fear and surprise attack me to death.
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Edited by Bashev on September 17, 2015 7:21AM
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  • Rojnaar
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    It's not the build, it's the macro that killed you
  • Kobaal
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    Happens to me every now and then in IC. For me its Heavy Attack + Poison Injection + Camo hunter + Camo Hunter + Camo Hunter. All in 1 second. I go from 25k health to dead.
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  • Master_Kas
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    Thats 3-5 shot not oneshot ;)

    Let me ask, who did this to you? You can PM me because I suspect a EP player huehue :trollface:
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  • Dyride
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    Color me not surprised.

    It doesn't even have to be macroed. You Ambush while your Focused Aim is in flight and can animation cancel with an ultimate.

    I believe your heavy armor is mitigating his damage cause I know there are builds that hit even harder than that but it requires quite a bit of CP.
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    1. timidobserver
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      I know you don't respond to being summoned but I am going to do it anyway.
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      I've figured out how to prevent this from killing me most of the time, but it ends up with me running a build I don't really want to run. It would be awesome if camo hunter wasn't proccing 2-3 times inside of one global.
      Edited by timidobserver on September 15, 2015 9:58PM
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    2. Domander
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      Bashev wrote: »
      I play with 7 heavy and I am a vampire. But I got one shotted. Now most of you will say drop vampire and *** like that but the problem is that the vamp passive is broken after the last update. And even if I wasnt a vampire after this combo that NB will fear and surprise attack me to death.
      mbnVaK5.png

      Which passive is broken?
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      PM me too if you don't mind :D
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    4. Domander
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      I know you don't respond to being summoned but I am going to do it anyway.
      @ZOS_RichLambert

      I've figured out how to prevent this from killing me most of the time, but it ends up with me running a build I don't really want to run. It would be awesome if camo hunter wasn't proccing 2-3 times inside of one global.

      Yeah I only get one shot when camo hunter procs are involved usually 2 or 3 times.... /sigh
    5. FlounderOG
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      You havent had fun until you have been batswarm prox det'd from stealth for 15k and 30k damage simultaneously while your team runs in circles in a keep trying to find the guy inly to get blown away by the dozen time and time again.

      Granred he was emperor before this latest patch so things can be different now, but it was really insane.
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      FlounderOG wrote: »
      You havent had fun until you have been batswarm prox det'd from stealth for 15k and 30k damage simultaneously while your team runs in circles in a keep trying to find the guy inly to get blown away by the dozen time and time again.

      Granred he was emperor before this latest patch so things can be different now, but it was really insane.

      This is obviously for the latest patch. Don't you see soul harvest ultimate 4.6k dmg? Used to do 14k+ crits if not higher when fully buffed in last update.
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    7. Kobaal
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      FlounderOG wrote: »
      You havent had fun until you have been batswarm prox det'd from stealth for 15k and 30k damage simultaneously while your team runs in circles in a keep trying to find the guy inly to get blown away by the dozen time and time again.

      Granred he was emperor before this latest patch so things can be different now, but it was really insane.

      We are talking about post IC patch when damage was reduced by a further 30%

      Your on xbox one so you are talking about 1.6
      Edited by Kobaal on September 15, 2015 10:24PM
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      I know you don't respond to being summoned but I am going to do it anyway.
      @ZOS_RichLambert

      I've figured out how to prevent this from killing me most of the time, but it ends up with me running a build I don't really want to run. It would be awesome if camo hunter wasn't proccing 2-3 times inside of one global.

      It's not one global. It's called snipe which is a timed projectile followed by ambush. Both receive the camo stealth guaranteed hit.

      Either way the OP died in 3 seconds not 1. Snipe > Ambush > Soul Harvest takes 3 seconds to execute and they all land in about 1.5 seconds if done right.

      That's the price you pay for being a vampire and the exact reason I'll never ever play one. The thought of some garbage can getting an easy kill on me is unbearable. I've actually had several NBs try that garbage on me in 2.1 although they usually dawnbreaker me instead of soul harvest. Aren't you supposed to know who is a vampire and who is a dose that'll make them wish they were born a woman?
      Domander wrote: »
      Bashev wrote: »
      I play with 7 heavy and I am a vampire. But I got one shotted. Now most of you will say drop vampire and *** like that but the problem is that the vamp passive is broken after the last update. And even if I wasnt a vampire after this combo that NB will fear and surprise attack me to death.

      Which passive is broken?

      Judging by the screenshot it is clear that undeath is working perfectly. Empowered Soul Harvest for only 4606?
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    9. FlounderOG
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      I clearly stated i was mentioning pre patch. I am well aware of what this thread is about thank you.
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      Ezareth wrote: »
      I know you don't respond to being summoned but I am going to do it anyway.
      @ZOS_RichLambert

      I've figured out how to prevent this from killing me most of the time, but it ends up with me running a build I don't really want to run. It would be awesome if camo hunter wasn't proccing 2-3 times inside of one global.

      It's not one global. It's called snipe which is a timed projectile followed by ambush. Both receive the camo stealth guaranteed hit.

      Either way the OP died in 3 seconds not 1. Snipe > Ambush > Soul Harvest takes 3 seconds to execute and they all land in about 1.5 seconds if done right.

      That's the price you pay for being a vampire and the exact reason I'll never ever play one. The thought of some garbage can getting an easy kill on me is unbearable. I've actually had several NBs try that garbage on me in 2.1 although they usually dawnbreaker me instead of soul harvest. Aren't you supposed to know who is a vampire and who is a dose that'll make them wish they were born a woman?
      Domander wrote: »
      Bashev wrote: »
      I play with 7 heavy and I am a vampire. But I got one shotted. Now most of you will say drop vampire and *** like that but the problem is that the vamp passive is broken after the last update. And even if I wasnt a vampire after this combo that NB will fear and surprise attack me to death.

      Which passive is broken?

      Judging by the screenshot it is clear that undeath is working perfectly. Empowered Soul Harvest for only 4606?

      You don't need to be a vampire. Judging by your signature, both of your classes have built in escapes. If you think that being oneshot is an acceptable/fair price for being a vampire, I am not going to argue it with you.

      I am not really interested in discussing the semantics of it like whether it was a global, oneshot, exactly how long it took, what the technical correct description of what happened here is, ect. My only concern/care about this thread was to tag ZOS so that hopefully they will make sure that everything in this scenario is working as intended. I am almost certain that camo hunter is supposed to have some kind of a cooldown preventing it from happening twice in one second as shown in the death recap. If it is working as intended, then so be it given that I've already gone through the effort of adjusting my build to survive this.

      Edited by timidobserver on September 15, 2015 10:47PM
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      Camo hunter has been procing multiple times from stealthed attacks for over a year now. to my knowledge ZoS has never indicated that doing so was not working as intended.
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      ZOS thought adding the reduction would work... but honestly they could of kept the older system and just fix the skills that did one shot
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      Araxleon wrote: »
      ZOS thought adding the reduction would work... but honestly they could of kept the older system and just fix the skills that did one shot
      Go away with your logic, you foul miscreant.

      Time for another overhaul!
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      One shot generally means

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      no taking away from your point, but no food buff? only blocked once?
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      Poxheart wrote: »
      Camo hunter has been procing multiple times from stealthed attacks for over a year now. to my knowledge ZoS has never indicated that doing so was not working as intended.

      http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/212035/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-1-4#latest

      Expert Hunter:
      This ability is no longer multiplied by the stealth critical damage bonus if it is used before entering stealth, it will now behave consistently if used before or after entering stealth.
      The effects to sense evil have been moved to the torso area, with a larger version included for Titans.
      Increased the internal cooldown for procs to 2.5 seconds from 1.5 seconds.

      2.5 seconds between procs didn't happen in the screenshot I am looking at.
      Edited by timidobserver on September 16, 2015 2:57AM
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      Yeah I see a Focused Aim, Ambush and Soul Harvest. That's one ability now? Huh...
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      If this player starts with an "U" and ends with an "e", then it is the first time in my ESO career that I honestly think someone is using something fishy. I met him several times, game feels always very weird, like stuttering, when he executes the exact same combo everytime in sub 1 sec from animation start to my death.

      He does nothing else but chaining that combo, always with perfect exectution, always oneshot-damage - never met someone that good in ESO... and I think I`ve fought pretty much anyone good in this game. Never heard of this guy, he either seems to be a very quick learner or good at using addons.
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      I have videos of me basically one shotting vampire players for over a year now. Use to just do snipe, heavy, poison arrow, light attack which all hit at once.. 4 camps instantly.
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      Could be, but always perfect exectuion with minimum amount of downtime between the cycles?

      Even in the midst of multiple enemies, while being targeted? Damage always landing in the exact same order, every dr looks identical...

      As I said, I can`t say I`ve anyone seeing play that perfectly since pre-release and he especially stands out for being the only player who seems to be able to oneshot-combo after patch I´ve seen so far.

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    21. ItsRejectz
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      Bashev wrote: »
      I play with 7 heavy and I am a vampire. But I got one shotted. Now most of you will say drop vampire and *** like that but the problem is that the vamp passive is broken after the last update. And even if I wasnt a vampire after this combo that NB will fear and surprise attack me to death.
      mbnVaK5.png

      That is not a one shot,it's 3 hits and 2 procs. Also, it is not a macro but a simple combo most stam NB's will use.
      Fire your snipe, as it is traveling through the air hit ambush and both will hit more or less at the exact same time, then use your ult. It's easy to do, does not need animation canceling and all the damage will be registered over about a second.

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      Araxleon wrote: »
      ZOS thought adding the reduction would work... but honestly they could of kept the older system and just fix the skills that did one shot

      The problem being that this would require some actual work and understanding of builds/game mechanics. Why would you invest yourself that much in a topic you don´t have interest in when you can just bandaid fix and call it a day?
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      Camo hunter has two separate procs and is designed to hit twice if used in conjunction with an attack from stealth. It is clearly written in the tooltip of the ability. It can happen on vampires as well as werewolves as well as "just humans". It's just different probabilities.

      The guy who did it probably sat in front of his PC and thought "Holy Ship! It worked! It actually worked!"

      Maybe the proc rate of Camo hunter needs to be looked at, but if you have a skill that almost never procs, it will not be used. Look at silver shards outside of the brief stint with leash bug on update 7 PTS.

      And no, since I'm a FOTM loser, I play no stamina class currently, only two magicka vampires.
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      Ezareth wrote: »
      Domander wrote: »

      Which passive is broken?

      Judging by the screenshot it is clear that undeath is working perfectly. Empowered Soul Harvest for only 4606?
      Soul harvest is not empowered because it lands after the focus aim. Focus aim is the empowered skill.
      For the rest who said that this is not one shot build because the attacks are 3 + 2 procs you are right. But I guess that you know what I mean. All these attacks lands in 1 second interval and you cannot react. It is not so easy to execute this combo in a massive fight between the three factions because of the stupid district design. We were literally killing each other for 1h just jumping from the respawn place.
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      I can see how this is done, and it isnt as difficult as ppl might think, you hit three buttons and time them right. I might, however, rethink going vamp on my nb.

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