Will anything be done?

Cazzy · September 2015

I had to report a child today. Yes, a child. He was running around Davon's Watch begging for 2000 gold and offering "anything you want" in return. Then when I tried to open a trade to make him go away it was obvious he was trying to scam people. Pleading for them to give more money and submit it because all his stuff was in the bank.

Oh he's back. Lemme record this for ZoS...

Edit: Let me stress that he was genuinely no older than 10.

Selique · September 2015

Out of curiosity, can't you just put him on your ignore list?

Begging for money may be annoying, but it hardly constitutes scamming. Now, if he was selling something and he pulled the old switcharoo, then yeah that's scamming.

Cazzy · September 2015

Selique wrote: »

Out of curiosity, can't you just put him on your ignore list?

Begging for money may be annoying, but it hardly constitutes scamming. Now, if he was selling something and he pulled the old switcharoo, then yeah that's scamming.

Oh he's definitely scamming. He's just not very good at it

Sadly, blocking, ignoring and everything else doesn't stop me being able to hear him. I turned Player Voice down in the end so now I have no way to talk to people.

Cazzy · September 2015

Plus I reported him for harassing people, not scamming

He was following people as he was begging.

LiquidZ · September 2015

Doesn't sound like anything should be done about this. Just some kid begging for money. Just walk away. lol

Cazzy · September 2015

I disagree. I believe being followed around and hounded for money is harassment. Especially when you say no or try to leave but get followed.

LiquidZ · September 2015

Cazzy wrote: »

I disagree. I believe being followed around and hounded for money is harassment. Especially when you say no or try to leave but get followed.

Well unless you invited him to a group he can't track you through a portal.

Cazzy · September 2015

So I need to leave town to avoid harassment? I'm more than a little annoyed as it isn't the first time this has happened.

Cazzy · September 2015

Btw, I'm not being mad at you or whatever, I actually agree with a lot of your posts xD I'm just super annoyed is all. Sorry if it comes across as mean

Rikal · September 2015

Cazzy wrote: »

I disagree. I believe being followed around and hounded for money is harassment. Especially when you say no or try to leave but get followed.

If he's following you around messaging you that's definitely report-worthy.

UrQuan · September 2015

LiquidZ wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

I disagree. I believe being followed around and hounded for money is harassment. Especially when you say no or try to leave but get followed.

Well unless you invited him to a group he can't track you through a portal.

So? Harassment is harassment - it doesn't matter if you can find a way to get away from the harasser. Why should you be forced to stay away from an area where you wanted to play the game just to keep from being harassed? Sounds like reporting this player was the right thing to do, and hopefully he'll have action taken against him.

Arunei · September 2015

LiquidZ wrote: »

Well unless you invited him to a group he can't track you through a portal.

How is being forced to leave an area b/c someone is hounding you even close to an acceptable answer? Also, if the hounding is severe enough to warrant leaving in the first place, it counts as harassment and warrants a report, regardless of the player's age.

Ace_of_Destiny · September 2015

It is better to teach "social graces" when young than to house in prisons once they age.

icontested · September 2015

Cazzy wrote: »

I had to report a child today. Yes, a child. He was running around Davon's Watch begging for 2000 gold and offering "anything you want" in return. Then when I tried to open a trade to make him go away it was obvious he was trying to scam people. Pleading for them to give more money and submit it because all his stuff was in the bank.

Oh he's back. Lemme record this for ZoS...

Edit: Let me stress that he was genuinely no older than 10.

I can't blame you for being a mature, responsible, caring, super hero of a human being. It is disturbing, but he's "experimenting" in a "safe" environment that his parents so irresponsibly let him do. I feel you, but move on dude.

I don't want to create anything, but watch a slaughterhouse video before you eat your next steak. Anyways you are a good person, stay on the path of enlightenment my brotha

Alucardo · September 2015

Reminds me of that fkn dog in Daggerfall that chases you around. I've reported several times, but apparently "it's part of a quest". Pssht.

Xendyn · September 2015

Alucardo wrote: »

Reminds me of that fkn dog in Daggerfall that chases you around. I've reported several times, but apparently "it's part of a quest". Pssht.

Giblets? I love Giblets. Don't dis the Gibs.

Kuroinu · September 2015

I hope console voice chat gets a serious overhaul, I'm tired of seeing threads like this.

You wouldn't put up with it in real life, you don't need to put up with it in a game. In fact the great illusion of gaming is referring to real life as something outside of the game, but ultimately when playing a game you are playing it in your real life. Foolish to think otherwise, time doesn't stop when you start up a game and you don't change into another person, you are still you.

icontested · September 2015

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

I hope console voice chat gets a serious overhaul, I'm tired of seeing threads like this.

You wouldn't put up with it in real life, you don't need to put up with it in a game. In fact the great illusion of gaming is referring to real life as something outside of the game, but ultimately when playing a game you are playing it in your real life. Foolish to think otherwise, time doesn't stop when you start up a game and you don't change into another person, you are still you.

What do you suggest be apart of your overhaul?

If you witness a crime in real life you call the police. If you run away who knows what the end result will be. In this case report the player so you did your civil gamer responsibility and than the rest is in someone else's hands

zornyan · September 2015

The fact you have to be opted in everytime you enter a zone/log in. Here's my most recent moments with the amazing voice chat...

Went to glenumbra to do some crafting to be zoned into a child screaming full pelt, whats worse is when playing without a headset on voice chat is hugely increased in volume without the ability to turn it down separately.

Hearing people singing random crap at the top of their lungs.

Hearing foreign languages shouted out with no one replying...then the shouting repeats.

Best one yet? Running around in bangkorai to see someone run past me, he shouts "jessie! Jessie! Jessie!" to which I ignore as I'm in the middle of a quest and have limited time. (I didn't know the player at all)

Then next? I hear "jessie you fcuking prick wtf are you ignoring me for, ***"

Erm maybe I don't want to stop what I'm doing to turn my headset on to speak to some random player whilst I'm busy?

Kuroinu · September 2015

icontested wrote: »

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

I hope console voice chat gets a serious overhaul, I'm tired of seeing threads like this.

You wouldn't put up with it in real life, you don't need to put up with it in a game. In fact the great illusion of gaming is referring to real life as something outside of the game, but ultimately when playing a game you are playing it in your real life. Foolish to think otherwise, time doesn't stop when you start up a game and you don't change into another person, you are still you.

What do you suggest be apart of your overhaul?

If you witness a crime in real life you call the police. If you run away who knows what the end result will be. In this case report the player so you did your civil gamer responsibility and than the rest is in someone else's hands

The removal of Area voice chat and the addition of text chat. This would lead to only having to read the area chat instead of having to listen to it or mute it constantly. It's easier to ignore something that requires that you read it. It is also much easier to report a player if you can screenshot text chat over recording voice chat, it's really that simple.

icontested · September 2015

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

icontested wrote: »

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

I hope console voice chat gets a serious overhaul, I'm tired of seeing threads like this.

You wouldn't put up with it in real life, you don't need to put up with it in a game. In fact the great illusion of gaming is referring to real life as something outside of the game, but ultimately when playing a game you are playing it in your real life. Foolish to think otherwise, time doesn't stop when you start up a game and you don't change into another person, you are still you.

What do you suggest be apart of your overhaul?

If you witness a crime in real life you call the police. If you run away who knows what the end result will be. In this case report the player so you did your civil gamer responsibility and than the rest is in someone else's hands

The removal of Area voice chat and the addition of text chat. This would lead to only having to read the area chat instead of having to listen to it or mute it constantly. It's easier to ignore something that requires you read it, it's really that simple.

You are right. Even with text chat people will find a way to irritate you. Whether you get ticked off at the slightest thing or have the patience of a saint, if its possible someone will find a way.

I block players that create mic chaos/trolls. I guess my patience level falls in the middle and blocking someone is cool. The frequency I have to block someone is once every few days. Text chat will still bring the Same issues

Kuroinu · September 2015

icontested wrote: »

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

icontested wrote: »

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

I hope console voice chat gets a serious overhaul, I'm tired of seeing threads like this.

You wouldn't put up with it in real life, you don't need to put up with it in a game. In fact the great illusion of gaming is referring to real life as something outside of the game, but ultimately when playing a game you are playing it in your real life. Foolish to think otherwise, time doesn't stop when you start up a game and you don't change into another person, you are still you.

What do you suggest be apart of your overhaul?

If you witness a crime in real life you call the police. If you run away who knows what the end result will be. In this case report the player so you did your civil gamer responsibility and than the rest is in someone else's hands

The removal of Area voice chat and the addition of text chat. This would lead to only having to read the area chat instead of having to listen to it or mute it constantly. It's easier to ignore something that requires you read it, it's really that simple.

You are right. Even with text chat people will find a way to irritate you. Whether you get ticked off at the slightest thing or have the patience of a saint, if its possible someone will find a way.

I block players that create mic chaos/trolls. I guess my patience level falls in the middle and blocking someone is cool. The frequency I have to block someone is once every few days. Text chat will still bring the Same issues

You know I've never felt the need to block anyone so far playing on PC. Trolling via text has significantly less effect on me versus trolling via voice. Perhaps you will get the same issues, but the effect they have on you will be reduced.

icontested · September 2015

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

icontested wrote: »

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

icontested wrote: »

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

I hope console voice chat gets a serious overhaul, I'm tired of seeing threads like this.

You wouldn't put up with it in real life, you don't need to put up with it in a game. In fact the great illusion of gaming is referring to real life as something outside of the game, but ultimately when playing a game you are playing it in your real life. Foolish to think otherwise, time doesn't stop when you start up a game and you don't change into another person, you are still you.

What do you suggest be apart of your overhaul?

If you witness a crime in real life you call the police. If you run away who knows what the end result will be. In this case report the player so you did your civil gamer responsibility and than the rest is in someone else's hands

The removal of Area voice chat and the addition of text chat. This would lead to only having to read the area chat instead of having to listen to it or mute it constantly. It's easier to ignore something that requires you read it, it's really that simple.

You are right. Even with text chat people will find a way to irritate you. Whether you get ticked off at the slightest thing or have the patience of a saint, if its possible someone will find a way.

I block players that create mic chaos/trolls. I guess my patience level falls in the middle and blocking someone is cool. The frequency I have to block someone is once every few days. Text chat will still bring the Same issues

You know I've never felt the need to block anyone so far playing on PC. Trolling via text has significantly less effect on me versus trolling via voice. Perhaps you will get the same issues, but the effect they have on you will be reduced.

I could almost see the MMO first timers on console feel less inhibited to entertain a full scale troll/text fight session in essence making it worse than voice chat which you can block and unblock a player.

Kuroinu · September 2015

Not to stray too far off topic, but consoles these days should come with keyboards. So much communication going on and not everyone wants to "voice" their opinion, in fact sometimes it's easier to understand what someone is saying through text. Kinda went off in the other direction with this convo now lol.

I really wish they would add text chat to consoles, so I can see the tears of joy streaming down players faces.

icontested · September 2015

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

Not to stray too far off topic, but consoles these days should come with keyboards. So much communication going on and not everyone wants to "voice" their opinion, in fact sometimes it's easier to understand what someone is saying through text. Kinda went off in the other direction with this convo now lol.

I really wish they would add text chat to consoles, so I can see the tears of joy streaming down players faces.

Haha you are awesome. I can text chat "do you have my money", or ask you. Being as though Vince McMahon takes advice from me you could see how saying it is more effective for me.. Hahaha

I agree on keyboards only because it brings awareness to the gadget and more sales to the various keyboard companies out there. It takes money to make money and I believe there are some l33t keyboards out there

Xendyn · September 2015

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

Not to stray too far off topic, but consoles these days should come with keyboards. So much communication going on and not everyone wants to "voice" their opinion, in fact sometimes it's easier to understand what someone is saying through text. Kinda went off in the other direction with this convo now lol.

I really wish they would add text chat to consoles, so I can see the tears of joy streaming down players faces.

Don't they already?

Kuroinu · September 2015

Xendyn wrote: »

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

Not to stray too far off topic, but consoles these days should come with keyboards. So much communication going on and not everyone wants to "voice" their opinion, in fact sometimes it's easier to understand what someone is saying through text. Kinda went off in the other direction with this convo now lol.

I really wish they would add text chat to consoles, so I can see the tears of joy streaming down players faces.

Don't they already?

What are those? Keyboards for hobbits? Lol sorry, I had to. Those look nice but I guess I'm just so used to the size of my keyboard that those small ones seems so "fiddly".

icontested · September 2015

You can always plug one into the console. Some great brands out there.

I would rather get a Scuf or cinch gaming controller with electro magnetic remapping to change around the buttons that seem to be another "thing". I think the new xbox elite controller can do that.. No?

Sithisvoid · September 2015

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

It is better to teach "social graces" when young than to house in prisons once they age.

Truth. Some of us learned "social graces" inside a prison. Ironic right?

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

Not to stray too far off topic, but consoles these days should come with keyboards. So much communication going on and not everyone wants to "voice" their opinion, in fact sometimes it's easier to understand what someone is saying through text. Kinda went off in the other direction with this convo now lol.

I really wish they would add text chat to consoles, so I can see the tears of joy streaming down players faces.

Just plug in an 8$ usb keyboard and BAM it comes with one. Try it out

Jaronking · September 2015

icontested wrote: »

You can always plug one into the console. Some great brands out there.

I would rather get a Scuf or cinch gaming controller with electro magnetic remapping to change around the buttons that seem to be another "thing". I think the new xbox elite controller can do that.. No?

The new Xbox elite controller can do that.

Alucardo · September 2015

Xendyn wrote: »

Giblets? I love Giblets. Don't dis the Gibs.

Hah, yeah him. You don't find that mutt annoying?