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Twice Born Star - 9 traits set - How can we test it?

Gyudan
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As a crafter on the EU server, I am very concerned about the upcoming set and the possible bugs attached to it.
What was shown to us on the live stream:
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Could we either:
- get completed researchs on all items on the PTS so we can craft the new set
- get 5 pieces of the set delivered through a coffer, just as we got the mage, serpent and warrior items ?

The set being based on mundus boons makes it particularly susceptible to bugs and I believed it should be tested properly.
I wish I had no reason to distrust Zenimax BUT
1) The last time a crafting set was added to the game, it stayed bugged for weeks/months. (I'm refering to Arena here, for those who had it back in May-June) The set bonus never worked and were only fixed when all sets got modified at the same time. To be honest, I still feel quite bitter about never getting a true answer/apology other than "we're working on fixing it" and then suddenly changing everything.
2) Mundus boons have been bugged in the past. Divines traits used to not work with the thief for example. Having divines work with 2 different boons increases the risk of this happening again.

What if only 1 boon works?
What if we can only one of the 2 boons and the other remains locked?
What if we can't change boons at all?
What if divines only works on the first bonus?
What if divines doesn't work at all?
What happens when switching from 5 to 4 pieces during a fight?
What happens when the player is wearing 4 armor pieces in TBS + 2 weapon bars with that set and he switches weapons?
What if Nirn merges with Coldharbour when the set becomes operational? What if this was a plan by the God of Schemes all along?

If someone could ping Eric Wrobel who talked about the new set in the Live Stream, that would be great.
Edited by Gyudan on October 17, 2014 4:00PM
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  • ExiledKhallisi
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    It seems the only way to test would be math on paper.
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  • okraus
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    I totally agree with OP! I do not trust ZOS neither. Specially when it is about sets or set sonus and mundus stone effects. And now we have a combination of both... i expect the worst!

    The comment of ExiledKhallisi is just wasted and i am too lazy to respond on that!

    I would be extremely interested if the twince-born star set actually "remembers" the mundus stones one activated when having the 5 set bonus active!
    So when you switch sets (for exmaple by weapons) do you loose one mundus bonus and get it right back? Is it randomly or do the mundus stones effects do have an order?
    Or do you loose the 2. mundus Stone effect when you loose the 5 set bonus and when you Switch back to 5 set bonus then you have to visit a mundus Stone again to get the secons mundus Stone effect?
    And so on.... and so on...

    Really? I would take bets that ZOS did not test this sincerely and this will not work when going live!
    Please at least give the players the chance to test this stuff. Then you can ignore our bug reports again as usual...

    Cheers!
    Edited by okraus on October 18, 2014 3:53PM
  • nagarjunna
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    Can you load two of the same Mundus? Like two Atronach or whatever?
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  • Gyudan
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    nagarjunna wrote: »
    Can you load two of the same Mundus? Like two Atronach or whatever?
    I don't think so.
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  • Nightreaver
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    I was originally under the impression that you could use the same Mundus stone twice but looking at the actual patch notes it doesn't appear so.
    New Crafted Item Set: Twice-Born Star •If you have researched 9 traits in a given item type, you will be able to craft items in the Twice-Born Star item set. When worn in at least five different item slots, this item set will allow you to receive two different mundus stones buffs. The crafting stations for this item set are located in Upper Craglorn.
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  • c0rp
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    The chance that this set works on the launch of the patch is 0%. Not a chance in hell it isnt bugged. There will be SOMETHING that is bugged and not working.
    Edited by c0rp on October 20, 2014 2:41PM
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  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    One possible bug to add, I wouldn't be too surprised if you would stay with double mundus buff even after unequipping your set. Probably until you die or change location.
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  • Gyudan
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    c0rp wrote: »
    The chance that this set works on the launch of the patch is 0%. Not a chance in hell it isnt bugged. There will be SOMETHING that is bugged and not working.
    If it's bug-free, I'll definitely throw my hat (of the twice-born star) in the air and cheer.
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  • Gyudan
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    From the 1.5.1 patch notes
    Twice-Born Star: Fixed an issue with this item set where weapon swapping would remove the second Mundus Stone buff.

    Not funny ZoS, not funny.
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  • PBpsy
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    Gyudan wrote: »
    From the 1.5.1 patch notes
    Twice-Born Star: Fixed an issue with this item set where weapon swapping would remove the second Mundus Stone buff.

    Not funny ZoS, not funny.
    Want to bet that this will certainly be a bug when 1.5 goes live and when 1.6 goes live and 1.7 goes live, fixed for 1.8 but broken again when 1.11 goes live?
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  • Yusuf
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    I will eat my own socks if this isn't bugged at patch-day.
  • Gan Xing
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    I have a 5 set of this on, and can't seem to get the 2nd mundus stone on
    this is after patch 2.1
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    Gyudan wrote: »
    From the 1.5.1 patch notes
    Twice-Born Star: Fixed an issue with this item set where weapon swapping would remove the second Mundus Stone buff.

    Not funny ZoS, not funny.
    Want to bet that this will certainly be a bug when 1.5 goes live and when 1.6 goes live and 1.7 goes live, fixed for 1.8 but broken again when 1.11 goes live?

    Well, it is certainly broken now, 18 months later. Maybe it was fixed before (I don't know -- never used TBS before this) or whether the recent overhaul of mundus stones reintroduced this bug. But in live I have:

    4 armor + Regen staff: Twice-born star
    3 armor + dual-wielded swords: Vicious Death

    That way I can swap between my offensive set and my healing set, with my second mundus buff being The Ritual for enhanced healing.

    I can pick up the second mundus buff when I have the regen staff equipped, but the second I weapon swap I lose it permanently. Swapping back doesn't fix it.

    So, you were prescient in your prediction that it would get fixed, broken, fixed and re-broken...
  • Erraln
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    That is not a bug, your character data has no memory for what the second boon should be. You need to maintain 5 pieces equipped at all times in order to keep it.

    Next time make a topic here or here rather than bumping a two year old pts discussion, would you? :)
  • Valrien
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    Erraln wrote: »
    That is not a bug, your character data has no memory for what the second boon should be. You need to maintain 5 pieces equipped at all times in order to keep it.

    Next time make a topic here or here rather than bumping a two year old pts discussion, would you? :)

    You know what's funny @Erraln? This thread was actually necro'd TWICE if you look at the dates LOL
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