Poxheart wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

I won't even start talking about the dozens of AD and DC guilds out there running 16-40 men groups which make it really hard to compete for EP even at primetime.

It's funny how your story changed from page 1 to page 2. On page 1 you said there are dozens of AD & DC guilds running 16-40 man groups (implying that AD & DC each have 24+ groups). However on page 2 you pull back to a dozen such AD & DC guilds combined (but can only name 10).

frozywozy wrote: »

If you would have read the whole conversation before talking, I did mentioned other EP guilds running large groups such as SwP and Sotp. But I also said that I was reffering to organized guilds who know what they're doing and who stand a chance against other competitive guilds. Those guilds still have alot to learn before they can get there. It is also the reason why I haven't mentioned other DC or AD 16men groups who run out there because they are obviously not of the same caliber.

It's also funny how you don't consider SwP and Sotp (whoever they are) as competitive guilds, but you do consider CN an organized guild that knows what they're doing when anybody who has seen CN action knows that guild is just B-S-Ga 2.0.

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Lol last night in Trueflame, the whole ring was red, yet AD went out of their way to take the DC gate keeps and camp them. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've yet to see DC do the same to another alliance in this patch, or heard of it. Could be wrong, though.

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Lol last night in Trueflame, the whole ring was red, yet AD went out of their way to take the DC gate keeps and camp them. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've yet to see DC do the same to another alliance in this patch, or heard of it. Could be wrong, though.

That was quite lulz worthy idk WTF they were thinking "We cant beat up on these red they too hard lets go pick on DC!"

Right? And DC players just wanted to get to IC. There were also AD camping our closest sewer entrance by Ash. So. Stupid. That's the sort of behaviour that will just make players never return to Cyrodiil lol.

Psilent wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Lol last night in Trueflame, the whole ring was red, yet AD went out of their way to take the DC gate keeps and camp them. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've yet to see DC do the same to another alliance in this patch, or heard of it. Could be wrong, though.

When @vortexman11 was Emperor on Haderus a few months ago we had left the DC gate keeps alone to promote pvp from DC; they were yellow. Instead of retaking Bloodmayne, Black Boot, and Faregyl they were defending the 3 DC gate keeps from DC retaking them. So went up there and opened up the keeps, cleared out AD and the guards and let DC flip the flags.

I just don't see the need to camp gate keeps when everyone in the game is just trying to play the new content and get geared to be able to continue playing. Sure, gate keeps being gone is just a minor inconvenience, but, really, it's the intent behind it that's the issue lol.

Recremen wrote: »

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Holy Mother of QQ, if you put as much effort into fighting as you did whining you might actually win something

Deci has no problem winning things, there's an arena in the IC if you'd like proof. 0=)

Rylana wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

Come on folks, chill out on the map. Everyone else is trying to suffer quietly through the arbitrarily long gear grind with some dignity intact, and you want to roll the whole map? On every server, if my sources can be trusted? Yeah, we're all bored of the slog and want to fight each other, but making it mildly more inconvenient to get to the city isn't going to solve the problem. You want a tussle, call your contacts in the other factions and organize it within the city for now. Overworld Cyro is just not on anyone's radar for a good while.

Two of those maps are being held by one guild, because that guild has emp on both maps.

You cant expect us to just walk away from our own guildies can you?

Besides the whole trueflame thing was just so zaz could complete his emp collection, the real server we homed on is thorn.

As for the others, I couldnt tell you, but honestly i just want glorious combat everywhere, and all ive seen for the last week is people doing their damndest to avoid pvp. We literally dethroned an emp and crowned one yesterday vs a three bar pop blue faction on thorn.... and not a single blue fought us until the last keep. not one.

Nightcapping, day capping, pvdoor galore because no one really defends anything, all they do is zerg the sewers (dude you were there for one of those yellow v red clashes in the sewer last night GoS vs like ALL of AD)

Other than that, there really is no PvP right now, and its sad as hell.

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

Come on folks, chill out on the map. Everyone else is trying to suffer quietly through the arbitrarily long gear grind with some dignity intact, and you want to roll the whole map? On every server, if my sources can be trusted? Yeah, we're all bored of the slog and want to fight each other, but making it mildly more inconvenient to get to the city isn't going to solve the problem. You want a tussle, call your contacts in the other factions and organize it within the city for now. Overworld Cyro is just not on anyone's radar for a good while.

Two of those maps are being held by one guild, because that guild has emp on both maps.

You cant expect us to just walk away from our own guildies can you?

Besides the whole trueflame thing was just so zaz could complete his emp collection, the real server we homed on is thorn.

As for the others, I couldnt tell you, but honestly i just want glorious combat everywhere, and all ive seen for the last week is people doing their damndest to avoid pvp. We literally dethroned an emp and crowned one yesterday vs a three bar pop blue faction on thorn.... and not a single blue fought us until the last keep. not one.

Nightcapping, day capping, pvdoor galore because no one really defends anything, all they do is zerg the sewers (dude you were there for one of those yellow v red clashes in the sewer last night GoS vs like ALL of AD)

Other than that, there really is no PvP right now, and its sad as hell.

I love it when people self-identify
Take that no-naming-and-shaming policy!

On another note, I kinda get it, no one wants to abandon or let down guildies. But at the same time, taking/holding emp on a completely uncontested/undefended map seems pointless at best, destructive to pvp at worst.
It's inconvenient for those of us trying to get to IC, but worse, a lot of new players began playing with the introduction of the IC this patch, and as they enter pvp, all they're seeing are completely red maps. It's already becoming an issue: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/215273/should-i-change-faction/p1

The only map we are actively Defending is Trueflame, and i am treating it as any other Emperor-ship, if people fight i fight, if people don't i leave them alone, and so far each day i ahve had blue and yellow groups rally up and push my ring during prime time which has been great, in fact yesterday i was down to 1 Emp keep

Edit: Sinful on Thorn actually wants to be dethroned

Psilent wrote: »

I understand and if I had to ride up from the gates everyday I'd be saying the same thing. However, last night in a time spam of less than half an hour the Emp keeps on Trueflame went from 6 red to 2. I need to make sure my mate keeps Emperor. It provides extra health while gearing up in IC.

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

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WRX wrote: »

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Holy Mother of QQ, if you put as much effort into fighting as you did whining you might actually win something

Assuming this was directed at Men'do, our one and true erperor (or Deci in general), I will come to ESO again for some GvG fights and see who wins. Again.

However at any rate, the state of PvP makes me sad to the point I hardly miss it, only the guild. With the addition of campaigns, flat out nerfs, and making cyrodiil roughly 3x as large (adding the sewers and districts), PvP will never be the same.

Geared at v16 or not, the populations will always be lower, with less fights and AP in this current setup. This on top of the fact that its been several weeks already, and in ~2 months they plan to expand again. Nope, just nope.

ia m really drunk so ima just go straigh ahdead and rpertetnd i know what you are saying and say yep, sure thing man (i got no idea)

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

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WRX wrote: »

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Holy Mother of QQ, if you put as much effort into fighting as you did whining you might actually win something

Assuming this was directed at Men'do, our one and true erperor (or Deci in general), I will come to ESO again for some GvG fights and see who wins. Again.

However at any rate, the state of PvP makes me sad to the point I hardly miss it, only the guild. With the addition of campaigns, flat out nerfs, and making cyrodiil roughly 3x as large (adding the sewers and districts), PvP will never be the same.

Geared at v16 or not, the populations will always be lower, with less fights and AP in this current setup. This on top of the fact that its been several weeks already, and in ~2 months they plan to expand again. Nope, just nope.

ia m really drunk so ima just go straigh ahdead and rpertetnd i know what you are saying and say yep, sure thing man (i got no idea)

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

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WRX wrote: »

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Holy Mother of QQ, if you put as much effort into fighting as you did whining you might actually win something

Assuming this was directed at Men'do, our one and true erperor (or Deci in general), I will come to ESO again for some GvG fights and see who wins. Again.

However at any rate, the state of PvP makes me sad to the point I hardly miss it, only the guild. With the addition of campaigns, flat out nerfs, and making cyrodiil roughly 3x as large (adding the sewers and districts), PvP will never be the same.

Geared at v16 or not, the populations will always be lower, with less fights and AP in this current setup. This on top of the fact that its been several weeks already, and in ~2 months they plan to expand again. Nope, just nope.

ia m really drunk so ima just go straigh ahdead and rpertetnd i know what you are saying and say yep, sure thing man (i got no idea)

Starshadw wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

However at any rate, the state of PvP makes me sad to the point I hardly miss it, only the guild. With the addition of campaigns, flat out nerfs, and making cyrodiil roughly 3x as large (adding the sewers and districts), PvP will never be the same.

Geared at v16 or not, the populations will always be lower, with less fights and AP in this current setup. This on top of the fact that its been several weeks already, and in ~2 months they plan to expand again. Nope, just nope.

Eh, if anything, IC has made me very thankful for the large size of Cyrodiil. Yeah, it can be a pain to have to ride for a couple of minutes to get back into the fight. But I'll take that over the insta-respawn in the IC districts.

As for populations - right now, campaigns are poplocked all over the place, so I'm not sure why you think populations will "always be lower." I do hope that they will drop slightly once the "shiny" wears off, but given that IC is the only new content we have to play with, I'm not going to hold my breath. Had ZOS been smart, they would have released at least one new non-PvP zone, to give the population somewhere else to go besides IC for new content. Since we don't have that, I'm honestly not sure how much the populations in IC will drop at all in the coming weeks. The sooner ZOS can release Orsinium, the better.

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

So Zazebra and his guild of shadows (the enemy organization Sean Connery fought in the movie league of extraordinary gentlemen?) are the new flavor of the month for the Ebonfart Fact? Hail Zazebra, praise Zazebra, Zazebra the almighty.... This is the kind of bull[snip] you going to smear all over cyrodiil and imperial city? Instead of everyone all cuddled up in zazebra's kangaroo pouch why don't you all wake up, turn off the reruns of Crocodile Dundee, dump the cans of warm Foster's out, and start hailing and praising people who deserve it like FENGRUSH.

And just like in presidential elections where the candidates' super pacs get out there and promote, it's time I promoted FENGRUSH. That's right, FENGRUSH! The only twitch stream worth seeing for ESO. His haircut is always fresh and his beard always shaped. He wears v neck t-shirts while devouring EP and crapping out bunnies, kittens, and gerbils.

Before


After FENGRUSH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRgjPwLLRdo