Congratulations ESOTU players, you got what you wanted, an open Imperial City

ScruffyWhiskers · September 2015

Vigarr wrote: »

People should be able to play what they pay for...it's as simple as that. You can't blame them for the zergs that come with open access to their purchase.

There's a huge fallacy with that argument. And the same fallacy applies to all these "I am going to file a lawsuit!" claims.

Just because you purchase content X, you don't have some god given right to access all of content X in the manner in which YOU deem appropriate. The content is part of a game system. The designer creates the system and the wickets that have to be jumped to get whatever rewards are part of the new content. If the designer wants you to first travel to Cyrodiil, then capture some keeps with your fellow alliance players then that is what is required to then be eligible to enter the IC. You purchased the ticket to be eligible. You didn't buy a ticket that forces them to just pour the treasures of the new content into your lap. You have to earn it....along with everything else in the game. That's the way the design works (for the most part lol)

I want a set of scathing mage armor. Should I see a lawyer about my having to do 4 man dungeons with a group of other players? I'm an introverted misanthrope. I hate people and the designer is forcing me to cooperate with stinky people to get my armor. What if I can't find people in the group finder? This must be an illegal design. I bought this but can't access it. This is as big an obstacle as having to march around Cyrodiil and take some lousy keeps. Do you see how silly these assertions of dictating the design are?

Lexynide · September 2015

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2042185/#Comment_2042185
Enjoy.
Also, the only reason why it wouldn't "end well", is if PvErs whine and cry their way into ruining the one update PvPers wanted. You do realize that we won't get another for a long, long time, while PvE will gets tons more.

Excuse me, have you actually tried to read anything I said instead of looking for first mention of "pvp sucks" and throwing this garbage of a link?
In my post earlier I've actually gave reasons why that statement is not valid, I've explained why both scenarios aren't really gonna end up good for IC(or Wrothgar) and all you did is kept talking about "PvErs whine".

You didn't even understand point of my post yet went ahead with trying to reply it. Learn the difference between constructive criticism and whining, or quit trying to "reply" it and just walk away.

Hope499 wrote: »

Garion wrote: »

Can we have a tldr?

This plz

I keep lol'ing at people that walk into forums and ask for TL;DR. It's a forum, not twitter. People write a lot of text here you know.

Sausage · September 2015

Ahh, the drama, "I cant steal stuff from other players, it makes me bad person when I do it in video game" I suppose you havent never killed an ant or fly in real life either. I love this forum sometimes, it reminds me so much of the 90s.

Kas · September 2015

agree with the essence: the open access is incredibly *** and ruins both, classic cyrodiil and the possibility of fully enjoying IC. tbh, most players have seen this coming. no idea why zos would listen to a vocal minority of ***

Nebthet78 · September 2015

Elektrakosh wrote: »

I'll be looking in from the outside. I'm not wanting to get killed for materials nor extra skyshards. I dislike PvP for those reasons stated plus I only like PvE. I'll be missing out and yes I do not like it but as all the folks said to me I'll have to "suck it up".

No skyshards completion for me or getting those much needed skill points. I'm waiting for Orsinium.

I am only in there to do what I can do until my sub expires. After then I am not resubbing and am not going to purchase the DLC and will be waiting for Orsinium like all the other PVErs.

BlackEar · September 2015

As a PvE'er who never dipped toes in PVP I love this patch.

It gives me a little bit of both to try out

Volrion · September 2015

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

This update is for PvPers. Sorry, it's not for PvErs, and the concern should not be with the PvE crowd. Orsinium is coming soon, that will be the next PvE update.

That being said, I played with a PvE friend today, and he was having a blast. I think IC offers the best balance for PvE and PvP to mesh together. It's extremely fun in there.

And coming from a person who could one-shot a person for 26k+ in 1.6, I'm loving the damage changes in 1.7. It's made fights more fun for me. We'll see how things end up eventually, but this, this is a fun update.

It's terrible for PVP. Too many NPCs. I hate it. There are almost 25 PVE areas in the game, and only one PVP zone STILL.

What's worse, is Cyrodiil is getting pop-locked all the time now due to all the PVEers in IC.

It's an absolute mess. I'm really hating what they have done with the new patch.