Leave it up to gamers to be so ignorant and assume every person is like them and thinks the same way they do. Interacting with other people is not always easy and some people find it very difficult. Some people work full time jobs and have family's to take care of. leaving only a little time out of the day to play and they might not want to use that time searching for a guild or going through guild channels to build a group. Some people spend there day having to deal with loud people and want a break from having to listen to people talk, but still want to stay connected in case they are need for a group. Some people are shy and having to speak out over others makes them uncomfortable. People are different.

The fact that many think the answer is that people just need to be more social is sad, it is never that simple. Some people need help and text chat can help people get connected. That fact that you may be having a good experience is nice, but it is not the same for all. There is no reason people need to bash other people that are having a hard time in the game. You never know what they are going through, so think before you post.

I personally don't think text chat will ever be added to the game even though I wish it would be. It would make my life more simply. I have found ways to work around it. One of my guild using the Message of the day to run trials. When a leader is going to start a group they update the message which send an alert out to everyone, and you send the an xbox message asking the join. I would hate to be the person receiving message all day but it works really well. Another of my guild focuses on have set activity's, so you know if you ever are on at a certain time of the day you could join in there activity. And yet another of my guild focuses heavily on using a guild web page to stay connected which helps with crafting and communicating ideas.

Yes there are ways out there, but for some it is not easy to find what they are looking for. Not everyone is looking for the same thing.

mrskinskull wrote: »

likelolwhat wrote: »

Eshelmen wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Eshelmen wrote: »

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Some people seem to be completely missing the point for the need of some form of in game text chat. It's not a matter of being able to adapt. It's a matter of not being able to adapt. Are you going to keep spouting the same nonsense to the hearing impaired, introverts, and the women I've heard being harassed and degraded and no longer want to talk or have left the game completely because a fair share of people playing the game have degraded to adolescent behavior since there are no mods in VC.

Even Blacksmurf doesn't mind some type of text chat as long as it isn't on screen. It being part of the social menu isn't a bad idea. One last thing. How does anyone already doing all the game has to offer with no problems, this includes me, have any right to tell the people that can't, because of one reason or another, adapt to a system that never thought of you to begin with.

And some people don't understand that everything CAN be done in ESO with out text chat and actually done pretty easily.

How do you go from can become hectic, sure in one comment to pretty easily in the other? Also why do you assume that everyone's expeirence is going to mirror your own?

Frankly I've tried more Guilds then I count. I've never in fact refused a guild invite, when not at 5. I have always looked over the roster and popped in Guild Chat at least a few times. I'm still looking for a guild. I've scoured the internet, looking for one, and done just about everything I can think of, including standing next to the Undaunted stating that I was looking for one. So I don't have a positive attitude because I have tried, and it's not working.

Being hectic in a voice channel is different than easily getting stuff done.

If you're on PS4 and N/A , I can help you.


Ask yourselves this question.

"How on earth, is there people flourishing around me and I'm stuck?"

Already answered for you.

dday3six said:
Also why do you assume that everyone's expeirence is going to mirror your own?

He's trying to help you. Don't be rude.

I am being no less rude than he is by continually ASSUMING (yes, you were assuming!) that because he is able to flourish, everyone else is fine and dandy. That is what is meant by the bit I quoted. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now, I have no personal stake in this. It makes no difference to me whether text chat gets implemented or not. What does grind my garters is people who are unable to comprehend that there are reasons someone might not be able to do things exactly the way they do.

There have been examples all over the thread.

Hearing issues. Shyness. Stuttering. A tendency towards Freudian slips. Being female, ffs.

Now, I don't know if dday3six had any or all of those reasons, and I don't care. It doesn't and shouldn't matter. Being cute and asking someone to introspect (barf!) is not helping.

edit: trying to fix comment nesting

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

83% of the voters in this poll want text chat made available, 17% say not,

In anyone's book, that's an overwhelming majority.

So the question should be not if, but when will this be implemented.

It's a forum poll that's represents less than 1% of the total amount console players.

Why'd you vote then ?

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

83% of the voters in this poll want text chat made available, 17% say not,

In anyone's book, that's an overwhelming majority.

So the question should be not if, but when will this be implemented.

It's a forum poll that's represents less than 1% of the total amount console players.

Nevertheless, it does represent. If 100% voted the result would likely be a similar score.

Woah...at best it's 0.4 to 0.6% of the population.
How do you conclude that if 100% voted the results wouldn't change?

Ppl come to the forums with problems or feedback.
Very, very few come who are happy according to ZOS and the feedback based on what the leadership team and devs see

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

83% of the voters in this poll want text chat made available, 17% say not,

In anyone's book, that's an overwhelming majority.

So the question should be not if, but when will this be implemented.

It's a forum poll that's represents less than 1% of the total amount console players.

Nevertheless, it does represent. If 100% voted the result would likely be a similar score.

Woah...at best it's 0.4 to 0.6% of the population.
How do you conclude that if 100% voted the results wouldn't change?

Ppl come to the forums with problems or feedback.
Very, very few come who are happy according to ZOS and the feedback the leadership team and devs see

I was perfectly happy when I was unaware of the existence of smart phones and tablets. Now I'm happier with them.

Bad example I guess...but really, you can't say that people are happy with no text chat because they aren't on the forums. It's entirely possible that they just haven't considered how much better things could be with it.


Still, I wouldn't be remotely willing to hazard a guess as to how a full population poll would go.

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

83% of the voters in this poll want text chat made available, 17% say not,

In anyone's book, that's an overwhelming majority.

So the question should be not if, but when will this be implemented.

It's a forum poll that's represents less than 1% of the total amount console players.

Nevertheless, it does represent. If 100% voted the result would likely be a similar score.

Woah...at best it's 0.4 to 0.6% of the population.
How do you conclude that if 100% voted the results wouldn't change?

Ppl come to the forums with problems or feedback.
Very, very few come who are happy according to ZOS and the feedback the leadership team and devs see

I was perfectly happy when I was unaware of the existence of smart phones and tablets. Now I'm happier with them.

Bad example I guess...but really, you can't say that people are happy with no text chat because they aren't on the forums. It's entirely possible that they just haven't considered how much better things could be with it.


Still, I wouldn't be remotely willing to hazard a guess as to how a full population poll would go.

So you're suggesting that 1mil plus bought the game, most knowing there was no text chat cause of closed beta streaming, ESO lives and every major gaming site writing an article about the which addressed the feature

All those people and based on this 800k to 1 mil ppl are unhappy but still playing and buying stuff via the crown store

Is that your opinion?

I can only imagine... Suddenly I sympathize with console peeps.

Tis a strange feeling.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

83% of the voters in this poll want text chat made available, 17% say not,

In anyone's book, that's an overwhelming majority.

So the question should be not if, but when will this be implemented.

It's a forum poll that's represents less than 1% of the total amount console players.

Nevertheless, it does represent. If 100% voted the result would likely be a similar score.

Woah...at best it's 0.4 to 0.6% of the population.
How do you conclude that if 100% voted the results wouldn't change?

Ppl come to the forums with problems or feedback.
Very, very few come who are happy according to ZOS and the feedback the leadership team and devs see

I was perfectly happy when I was unaware of the existence of smart phones and tablets. Now I'm happier with them.

Bad example I guess...but really, you can't say that people are happy with no text chat because they aren't on the forums. It's entirely possible that they just haven't considered how much better things could be with it.


Still, I wouldn't be remotely willing to hazard a guess as to how a full population poll would go.

So you're suggesting that 1mil plus bought the game, most knowing there was no text chat cause of closed beta streaming, ESO lives and every major gaming site writing an article about the which addressed the feature

All those people and based on this 800k to 1 mil ppl are unhappy but still playing and buying stuff via the crown store

Is that your opinion?

Nope. My opinion is that most of the players are perfectly happy with the status quo.

So happy in fact, that they simply haven't put any thought into how much happier they could be if text was implemented.

Although I guess it is possible that they're unhappy with the lack of text, but just happy to have a reasonably decent MMO option on their console.

Could you consider than the reality is than approx 1,000+ players are unhappy and have voted here or in the closed beta thread. Some of whom moved on to another game

That's seems more realistic...cause if ppl are unhappy they would definitely tweet, post about it based on being around since PC closed beta. I've not seen too many not say something if unhappy.

Edit: I'll even raise that to 50k unhappy to put it over 2%

A lack of votes is not a vote to lack.

...That sounded cooler in my head.

likelolwhat wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

83% of the voters in this poll want text chat made available, 17% say not,

In anyone's book, that's an overwhelming majority.

So the question should be not if, but when will this be implemented.

It's a forum poll that's represents less than 1% of the total amount console players.

Nevertheless, it does represent. If 100% voted the result would likely be a similar score.

Woah...at best it's 0.4 to 0.6% of the population.
How do you conclude that if 100% voted the results wouldn't change?

Ppl come to the forums with problems or feedback.
Very, very few come who are happy according to ZOS and the feedback the leadership team and devs see

I was perfectly happy when I was unaware of the existence of smart phones and tablets. Now I'm happier with them.

Bad example I guess...but really, you can't say that people are happy with no text chat because they aren't on the forums. It's entirely possible that they just haven't considered how much better things could be with it.


Still, I wouldn't be remotely willing to hazard a guess as to how a full population poll would go.

So you're suggesting that 1mil plus bought the game, most knowing there was no text chat cause of closed beta streaming, ESO lives and every major gaming site writing an article about the which addressed the feature

All those people and based on this 800k to 1 mil ppl are unhappy but still playing and buying stuff via the crown store

Is that your opinion?

Nope. My opinion is that most of the players are perfectly happy with the status quo.

So happy in fact, that they simply haven't put any thought into how much happier they could be if text was implemented.

Although I guess it is possible that they're unhappy with the lack of text, but just happy to have a reasonably decent MMO option on their console.

Could you consider than the reality is than approx 1,000+ players are unhappy and have voted here or in the closed beta thread. Some of whom moved on to another game

That's seems more realistic...cause if ppl are unhappy they would definitely tweet, post about it based on being around since PC closed beta. I've not seen too many not say something if unhappy.

Edit: I'll even raise that to 50k unhappy to put it over 2%

A lack of votes is not a vote to lack.

...That sounded cooler in my head.

Sounds cool but rationally if ppl don't care to even vote or give feedback...they aren't having a problem.
To suggest they're missing something that they don't to complain about is odd.

Ppl complain on here just to complain (and I edited that number to 20k)

So less than 5,000 ppl care to say something but millions are playing.
99 problems for ZOS but this isn't even 1

That sounds cooler :-)

likelolwhat wrote: »

@NewBlacksmurf

Eh. I suppose laziness/lack of time/lack of imagination/whatever could factor, tbh I don't care either way.

...Aren't you supposed to be in bed?!

Nope it's late but I'm up

Laziness....lol bruh ppl come out of the woodworks to complain here. I thought wow was bad.
This forum....geeez especially during PTS and Patch days

Having played on PS4, voice chat is, I believe, entirely necessary. I'm glad they have voice as an option but it just does not work. Random voice chat is like an unwanted stranger invading your room periodically. Text chat does not have the same impact.

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

You can spin it how you like Blacksmurf and I'm not really sure what your agenda is with trying to scupper something that the majority of voters in this poll clearly, and in some cases desperately wants, but like it or not you're one of the few dissenting voices here, and it seems to me that you're going against the grain for selfish reasons and trying to somehow undermine the vote?? I'll admit it's probably your only tactic available since 83% to your 17% is looking terribly thin for your argument.

You can try to spin it how you like but the vast majority of those polled so far are in favour of this. Fact.

Its not a spin...its simple math.
The other part is per ZOS and so as I continue to say to everyone in here...this isn't me against you and this poll has nothing to do with what ZOS does want or what they don't want to do because its not their poll and they are not polling for interest. Nobody's vote is going to cause you to get or not get this feature.

The decision has already been made long before release and then ZOS shared this two times...(See the videos in my sig)

I continue to suggest working with others to come up with a proposal ZOS hasn't scrapped during console development but for some reason ppl just want to attach my comments. They have said less than a month ago...we have nothing to add. The decision hasn't changed and ppl continue to argue why ZOS should do it or why not. They are not interested in those points as they shared this already.

Reality:
Me nor anyone who isn't in favor are not why this feature isn't present. Also we are not why ZOS has no interest in making those feature happen on consoles. Its not an agenda that I have its me sharing what has been shared by ZOS and also applying marketing knowledge to help others better communicate with others and the company.

Take it or leave it its time to learn how to communicate with people a different way.
Thats the issue...and in doing so maybe you can learn to better communicate with ZOS IF this is a conversation they are interested in having.

So far they nor any community leaders have participated in this thread so guess what....its less than 1% that care one way or another in the forums and that's the fact of the matter.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

83% of the voters in this poll want text chat made available, 17% say not,

In anyone's book, that's an overwhelming majority.

So the question should be not if, but when will this be implemented.

It's a forum poll that's represents less than 1% of the total amount console players.

Nevertheless, it does represent. If 100% voted the result would likely be a similar score.

Woah...at best it's 0.4 to 0.6% of the population.
How do you conclude that if 100% voted the results wouldn't change?

Ppl come to the forums with problems or feedback.
Very, very few come who are happy according to ZOS and the feedback the leadership team and devs see

I was perfectly happy when I was unaware of the existence of smart phones and tablets. Now I'm happier with them.

Bad example I guess...but really, you can't say that people are happy with no text chat because they aren't on the forums. It's entirely possible that they just haven't considered how much better things could be with it.


Still, I wouldn't be remotely willing to hazard a guess as to how a full population poll would go.

So you're suggesting that 1mil plus bought the game, most knowing there was no text chat cause of closed beta streaming, ESO lives and every major gaming site writing an article about the which addressed the feature

All those people and based on this 800k to 1 mil ppl are unhappy but still playing and buying stuff via the crown store

Is that your opinion?

Nope. My opinion is that most of the players are perfectly happy with the status quo.

So happy in fact, that they simply haven't put any thought into how much happier they could be if text was implemented.

Although I guess it is possible that they're unhappy with the lack of text, but just happy to have a reasonably decent MMO option on their console.

.




.

So instead of focusing on a niche crowd, why not lets all work together to get a couple BIG things for the larger interest groups changed such as (see below). Then after calming the fire...ZOS may think about entertaining a text chat conversation for the niche crowd.

)

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

JackalWynter@gmx.com wrote: »

83% of the voters in this poll want text chat made available, 17% say not,

In anyone's book, that's an overwhelming majority.

So the question should be not if, but when will this be implemented.

It's a forum poll that's represents less than 1% of the total amount console players.

Nevertheless, it does represent. If 100% voted the result would likely be a similar score.

Woah...at best it's 0.4 to 0.6% of the population.
How do you conclude that if 100% voted the results wouldn't change?

Ppl come to the forums with problems or feedback.
Very, very few come who are happy according to ZOS and the feedback the leadership team and devs see

I was perfectly happy when I was unaware of the existence of smart phones and tablets. Now I'm happier with them.

Bad example I guess...but really, you can't say that people are happy with no text chat because they aren't on the forums. It's entirely possible that they just haven't considered how much better things could be with it.


Still, I wouldn't be remotely willing to hazard a guess as to how a full population poll would go.

So you're suggesting that 1mil plus bought the game, most knowing there was no text chat cause of closed beta streaming, ESO lives and every major gaming site writing an article about the which addressed the feature

All those people and based on this 800k to 1 mil ppl are unhappy but still playing and buying stuff via the crown store

Is that your opinion?

Nope. My opinion is that most of the players are perfectly happy with the status quo.

So happy in fact, that they simply haven't put any thought into how much happier they could be if text was implemented.

Although I guess it is possible that they're unhappy with the lack of text, but just happy to have a reasonably decent MMO option on their console.

Could you consider than the reality is than approx 1,000+ players are unhappy and have voted here or in the closed beta thread. Some of whom moved on to another game

That's seems more realistic...cause if ppl are unhappy they would definitely tweet, post about it based on being around since PC closed beta. I've not seen too many not say something if unhappy.

Edit: I'll even raise that to 20k unhappy to put it over 2%

I can consider almost anything.

But honestly, I'm cynical....and as such it seems more reasonable to me that people simply haven't considered text chat or simply are too apathetic to do anything and therefore just accept things as they are.

It's also possible that (and I'm aware of a number examples in my small, small, group of ESO friends) there's enough solo content to keep console players occupied to the point where they don't need to worry about grouped instances (I believe this would be "trials" and such).

I'm an average player at best, and I can muddle my way through open-world dungeons without any issue....and if I can't, I level / gear up a bit and come back. If I could simply shout for help via text, I'd do that...and I'd be keeping an eye on it in case somebody else needed a hand.

And if there was a trade channel, I may be able to find those provisioning writ recipes that elude me.

I'd also add that so far, the regular forumites seem much more reasonable than some I've come across on the DCUO forums.

likelolwhat wrote: »

I can only imagine... Suddenly I sympathize with console peeps.

Tis a strange feeling.

Careful...it's a slippery slope. Sympathizing one day, advocating for merged servers so you can fraternize with the console peasants the next day.

SO here is what I continue to see on this thread....people...including me are identifying opportunities within the UI that if changed, would afford better gaming experiences but its lost in this topic of "text chat" which isn't something ZOS has interest in talking about.

So instead of focusing on a niche crowd, why not lets all work together to get a couple BIG things for the larger interest groups changed such as (see below). Then after calming the fire...ZOS may think about entertaining a text chat conversation for the niche crowd.

some things that EVERYONE is interested in:
-additional trade options on console
-finding groups on console (a better tuned and working group finder tool)
-seeking and getting help in zones ( some sort of something)
-finding guilds (other than forums or spamming in towns)

"Niche crowd?" Sorry I wouldn't call a majority a niche crowd. Oh and the stuff at the end is a diversion of the current debate