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RIP v16 craft for pve-players
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
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The fact YOU CHOOSE to engage in content I won't touch with a ten-foot pole is entirely irrelevant to me being FORCED to endure it.Only because PvE players make excuses and are afraid of being killed by other players, while PvP players learned they were just going to have to suck it up and do it.
Who's forcing you to endure anything?Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake1 -
Lord_Draevan✭✭✭✭✭
✭Holy crap, it costs 110-120 mats to make a single piece of V16 gear? And you only get 1 piece per decon on pieces mobs drop? It's going to take ages to get myself a V16 set
Is it really worth getting a V16 set, or is it only slightly better than V15 that only costs 11-12 mats to make a piece of gear?Edited by Lord_Draevan on September 1, 2015 11:20AMI'm a man of few words. Any questions?NA/PC server0 -
AngryNord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, hirelings bring raw v15/16 crafting mats - although only one at a time. At least that's how it was on PTS.Edited by AngryNord on September 1, 2015 11:21AM0 -
Arreyanne✭✭✭✭ontheleftcoast wrote: »Group dungeons will have V15 & V16 loot, which can be deconstructed. No need to enter PvP zones except to discover the dungeon entrances.
Great more stuff hidden behind the "group play" barrier. :P
That barrier being the totally broken POS known as the "Group Finder". That worthless waste of UI space has never once been useful. As a casual player without fixed times to play I have no real hope of joining a guild for regular "Wednesday Night Delving" or "Saturday Morning Raids". I'm forced to sit in zone chat and hope to hell I can find a group that needs my toon. "VR7 Stam/NB looking for .Spindleclutch" 10 minutes later "VR7 Stam/NB looking for Spindleclutch" 10 minutes later and 73 messages going by looking for healers or tanks "VR7 Stam/NB looking for Spindleclutch" Oh fudge it, skip that group dungeon and head to the next zone.
When hasnt an MMO used group content to have VERTICAL PROGRESSION. Someday there might be an MMO that doesnt use Vertical progression but until then you're going to have to use that broken POS group finder0 -
LadyDestiny✭✭✭✭✭I_killed_Vivec wrote: »Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »The VR16 crafting materials, such as Colossus ingots, should be brought to you by your hireling just like every other crafting material is. I have 16 master blacksmiths with maxed out hirelings, so I shouldn't have a problem getting the new materials.
That's an interesting thought, but do we know if it's true?
And what about writs? If you are a master crafter then will writs start requiring VR16 materials that you either have to buy DLC to obtain or you have to buy from vendors? And where will be the drop off location? Will that be in IC, will you have to buy DLC to get to the drop off location?
Will top level writs include VR16 gear?
It would be very wrong indeed if top level writs didn't require top level items... and reward accordingly.
Can you imagine having to craft nine items with collossus ingots for a blacksmith writ everyday? Good luck with that o_O0 -
Lexynide✭✭✭✭
Excuse me for cheap comeback, but I can only congratulate you for learning to "suck it up", that's your own achievement you can keep to yourself and quit bragging about it. I'm not going to do that because I was told I have a choice, and I was also told that this is "only a PvP update, nothing to worry about for PvErs".Only because PvE players make excuses and are afraid of being killed by other players, while PvP players learned they were just going to have to suck it up and do it.
The actual act is not different, only the perceptions of those enacting them.
I'm not going to "suck it up" and I advice anyone with respect for themselves to do the same.
I don't PvP because "im afraid to be killed". I don't PvP because I'm not interested in it, simple as that. I'm not interested too much about it's concept, about current state of balance in PvP and I'm not interested about mixmaxing all day long.
I don't play on violin because I'm afraid of it. I don't do that because I'm not interested in it. Get it now?1 -
Egonieser✭✭✭✭✭
✭Where is PVE-PLAYERS should get new craft materials (water, rune and other) ? Only buy for over100500 gold in trade guilds? =\
In Cyrodiil. Similar to how PvP Players went to PvE 4-person dungeons to get their gears.
Alternatively, you could buy the materials.
Unlike Undaunted sets, buying is apparently an option.
Going into PvE to get gear for PvP, is a lot different then going into PvP to get crafting mats.
Only because PvE players make excuses and are afraid of being killed by other players, while PvP players learned they were just going to have to suck it up and do it.
The actual act is not different, only the perceptions of those enacting them.
Exactly. For me doing PvE content is just as bad as for PvE person doing PvP.
I rather die 1000 times in Cyrodiil than be forced to grind X dungeon for Y item with 0.Z% chances of getting it. PvE player's woes with PvP are no different or more important than PvP player's woes with PvE.
No side is more important than the other. I must force myself to grind if i want that piece of kit, which i hate with a passion the same way you will have to PvP to get yours, and who knows, maybe you'll discover that you're actually good in PvP and find it fun? Many have done that.Edited by Egonieser on September 1, 2015 11:50AMSometimes, I dream about...cheese...
Dermont - v16 Pompous Altmer Sorcerer (With a very arrogant face!)
Egonieser - v16 Nord Stamina Dragonborn Wannabe
Endoly - v16 Tiny Redguard Sharpened MaceBlade
Egosalina - v16 Breton Cheesus Beam Specialist
Egowen - v16 Dunmer Whipping Expert (Riding crops eluded her)
(Yes, I had to grind all these to v16)
Akamanakh - lvl 22 Khajiit GankBlade (Inspired by Top Cat)
Targos Icewind - lvl 34 Imperial (Future) Jabplar
(CP 830+)
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NGP✭✭✭WolffenBloodseeker wrote: »Where is PVE-PLAYERS should get new craft materials (water, rune and other) ? Only buy for over100500 gold in trade guilds? =\
In Cyrodiil. Similar to how PvP Players went to PvE 4-person dungeons to get their gears.
Alternatively, you could buy the materials.
Unlike Undaunted sets, buying is apparently an option.
Going into PvE to get gear for PvP, is a lot different then going into PvP to get crafting mats.
Only because PvE players make excuses and are afraid of being killed by other players, while PvP players learned they were just going to have to suck it up and do it.
The actual act is not different, only the perceptions of those enacting them.
Having zergs run over your group or having gankers camping the quest locations is not scary, it is boring.
Fight them back! organize a white-knight group to patrol the sewers entrance and the streets of the Imperial City to secure it to yourself and your fellow brothers-in-arms OR if the resistance is too much (organized groups holding chockpoints or zergs) join or create an organized group and battle your foe to claim your prize! that's the spirit of AvA
A four men 1k cp group can come and kill you all.0 -
NGP✭✭✭minmshrsht wrote: »ontheleftcoast wrote: »Group dungeons will have V15 & V16 loot, which can be deconstructed. No need to enter PvP zones except to discover the dungeon entrances.
Great more stuff hidden behind the "group play" barrier. :P
That barrier being the totally broken POS known as the "Group Finder". That worthless waste of UI space has never once been useful. As a casual player without fixed times to play I have no real hope of joining a guild for regular "Wednesday Night Delving" or "Saturday Morning Raids". I'm forced to sit in zone chat and hope to hell I can find a group that needs my toon. "VR7 Stam/NB looking for .Spindleclutch" 10 minutes later "VR7 Stam/NB looking for Spindleclutch" 10 minutes later and 73 messages going by looking for healers or tanks "VR7 Stam/NB looking for Spindleclutch" Oh fudge it, skip that group dungeon and head to the next zone.
Here's an idea, join a guild! Its not an issue or me because I have these things called friends of and guildmates Oo
So sick of all the crying!
You just didn't read what you quoted.Edited by NGP on September 1, 2015 12:03PM0 -
AngryNord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ontheleftcoast wrote: »Group dungeons will have V15 & V16 loot, which can be deconstructed. No need to enter PvP zones except to discover the dungeon entrances.
Great more stuff hidden behind the "group play" barrier. :P
That barrier being the totally broken POS known as the "Group Finder". That worthless waste of UI space has never once been useful. As a casual player without fixed times to play I have no real hope of joining a guild for regular "Wednesday Night Delving" or "Saturday Morning Raids". I'm forced to sit in zone chat and hope to hell I can find a group that needs my toon. "VR7 Stam/NB looking for .Spindleclutch" 10 minutes later "VR7 Stam/NB looking for Spindleclutch" 10 minutes later and 73 messages going by looking for healers or tanks "VR7 Stam/NB looking for Spindleclutch" Oh fudge it, skip that group dungeon and head to the next zone.
When hasnt an MMO used group content to have VERTICAL PROGRESSION. Someday there might be an MMO that doesnt use Vertical progression but until then you're going to have to use that broken POS group finder
What happened to joining a guild?0 -
FangornSoul ShrivenTo craft 7 pieces of light armour you need around 100 000 Tel Var stones to buy al the ancestor silk. Happy farming everyone
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