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Should homing/guesting stay the way it currently is?

ShadoPanauin
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As the poll's title says, should homing/guesting stay the way it currently is?

I don't think so - and here's why.

There is a system that doesn't allow you to home/guest one campaign on a faction if you have home/guested that campaign on another faction.

This system was established for one reason: to stop troll-camping (the act of placing a forward camp in a terrible place that blocks out the ability to place a camp somewhere it is needed). However, forward camps are no longer able to be bought from vendors and are, quite frankly, rarely used anymore due to their short supply, much less for the purpose of troll-camping. Some people might argue this system was established to stop spies. However, spies are quite rare nowadays as most coordination is done in TeamSpeak servers, in /group chat, or in /tell chat. So what is this system's current function then? That's right; it's useless.

On top of being useless, this system can potentially cause guilds to split when the 1.7 update (Imperial City) arrives. Here's how: lots and lots of people, even my own guildmates, play multiple factions. They cannot home or guest the same campaigns (the most populated one, Azura's Star, for example) with all of their guilds with this system in place. However, they were still able to play with their other-faction-guilds on one campaign because of the travel to player bug. In 1.7, however, this bug is fixed. Because of this, coupled with the aforementioned system, they may need to choose one faction. This should not happen on a game that allows you to make characters on multiple factions. A useless system should not cause guilds to split.

How do you all feel about this system? Vote below.
Edited by ShadoPanauin on August 29, 2015 9:35PM
R.I.P. Million Reasons to Bomb, he triggered ZOS

Characters:
Million Reasons to Rename - AD Magicka Nightblade
Lúcio C - AD Stamina Sorcerer
slaughterfishlivesmatter - AD Stamina Nightblade
Million Reasons to Rake - DC Stamina Sorcerer
Shadopandauin - EP Magicka DK
Million Reasons to Lag - EP Magicka Sorcerer

Should homing/guesting stay the way it currently is? 41 votes

We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
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GloryJoy_DivisionHalkeKilandrosCinnamon_SpiderRylanaEtanielLeovolaoSeriWebBullDraxysvortexman11ItsRejectzLord_HevshockjockeyToRelaxFireCowCommandoIyasEirellaShadoPanauin 25 votes
This system should stay.
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krimScamandrosFi'yraFfastylpaulsimonpsDezIsDeadPeel_Ya_Cap_517 7 votes
Sometimes I like to cover myself in vaseline and pretend I'm a slug.
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MojmirYakidafiThyIronFistPchelathelordoffelinesItoq JulesCillion3117FlounderOG 9 votes
  • ShadoPanauin
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    For those who were confused as to what the system is, I just edited the thread.
    R.I.P. Million Reasons to Bomb, he triggered ZOS

    Characters:
    Million Reasons to Rename - AD Magicka Nightblade
    Lúcio C - AD Stamina Sorcerer
    slaughterfishlivesmatter - AD Stamina Nightblade
    Million Reasons to Rake - DC Stamina Sorcerer
    Shadopandauin - EP Magicka DK
    Million Reasons to Lag - EP Magicka Sorcerer
  • Kilandros
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    #sluglyfe
    Invictus
    Kilandros - Dragonknight / Grand Overlord
    Deimos - Templar / Grand Warlord
    Sias - Sorcerer / Prefect
    Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.

    DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT
  • Eirella
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    Wow, that third option though...
    (PC/NA) - | @Eirella - formerly @jinxgames | CP 1000+ | Mainly PvPer (EP) | Haxus
    /uninstalled
  • Yakidafi
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    Sometimes I like to cover myself in vaseline and pretend I'm a slug.
    Jinxycat wrote: »
    Wow, that third option though...

    Sliding in.

    Why I removed my 2 chars in the other factions cause I did not know what to do with them since I can not play with them if I wanted too without moving servers which is a very tedious task.

    But this spy stuff I guess is something that will happen, but I do not know what it will affect. the organized guilds don't write in chat and will prolly not invite pug to their group anyway so what can he do? Might follow them but have to find them first though. Seem very boring to me though.

    I would want this to be removed because I have char in another faction or one of my friends do, then we can fight eachother test out builds etc, we still can.. but I wont bother.
    Moons and sands shall be your guide and path.
    PC EU/NA
  • Lord_Hev
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    Not being able to play with all my cross-faction friends whenever, prevents me from playing the way I want to play, and ruins my immersion.



    If they -must- go through with this change of theirs, then at least let us abandon our campaign choices at will. Make it cost AP if you don't want it abused. But do not pigeon-hole us to choose one faction and one campaign.
    Qaevir/Qaevira Av Morilye/Molag
    Tri-Faction @Lord_Hevnoraak ingame
    PC NA
  • Joy_Division
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    Their archaic policy assumes we all play for a single alliance, are in campaigns that have ideal population balances, and are not plagued by lag and zergs that prompt us to log off the toilet bowl of a campaign and seek entertainment elsewhere.
    Edited by Joy_Division on August 29, 2015 8:59PM
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • FireCowCommando
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    "Oh, you guys are in haderus? Let me set that as my guest so i can quene in and play with you!"

    "Damnit, my low level Alt on the other faction is there."

    "Hold on guys give me 10 minutes while i try to free up a slot so i can join you"

    Many AP, loading screens, and minutes later

    "Well apparently i made too many characters, so i cant play with you guys."

    -Log out-
    Edited by FireCowCommando on August 30, 2015 9:37PM
  • Mojmir
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    Sometimes I like to cover myself in vaseline and pretend I'm a slug.
    i like how i tried to leave for another campaign,it took my AP, then tells me i cant go there for X amount of time anyways.
  • ItsRejectz
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    I have characters on DC,AD and EP. The reason I did this is so I can play with and against New people. My issue is that my AD and DC characters are forced to play in their buff servers which limits the fights to gates.. All because on xbox eu, the only really active campaign is azura. Chill = DC, TB=EP and Haderus =AD...


    Obviously I can travel to friends in other campaigns, but obviously that won't be an option soon
    Xbox EU - GT: o69 Woody 69o

    VR16 Sorc: Vlad V Impaler
    VR16 Sorc: Yes it's Woody
    VR16 NB: Prince of Wallachia
    VR16 Templar: Sir Lancelot the Brave
    VR16 DK: I'm Better Than You


  • Seri
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    This is particularly an issue for the lower population servers - NA PC only really has Azura active right now, particularly for Oceanic prime time (ie, ~5am US). I have an EP and a DC that I like to PvP with and with the removal of 'Travel to Player' I could quite likely be locked out of the only active campaign with one of those.
    EP CP160+ Templar, Sorc, NB
    DC CP160+ Templar, Sorc, DK
  •  Jules
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    Sometimes I like to cover myself in vaseline and pretend I'm a slug.
    The obvious choice.
    JULES | PC NA | ADAMANT

    IGN- @Juies || Youtube || Twitch
    EP - Julianos . Jules . Family Jules . Jules of Misrule. Joy
    DC - Julsie . Jules . Jukes . Jojuji . Juliet . Jaded
    AD - Juice . Jubaited . Joules . Julmanji . Julogy . Jubroni . Ju Jitsu



    Rest in Peace G & Yi
    Viva La Aristocracy
  • Lava_Croft
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    Choosing a campaign should actually have any kind of meaning beyond the rewards and effectively lock you out from other campaigns. It's ridiculous how you can just hop from campaign to campaign.
  •  Jules
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    Sometimes I like to cover myself in vaseline and pretend I'm a slug.
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Choosing a campaign should actually have any kind of meaning beyond the rewards and effectively lock you out from other campaigns. It's ridiculous how you can just hop from campaign to campaign.

    But what will happen if you are stuck with two campaigns--- one is dead and one is lagged out. Alt + F4?
    JULES | PC NA | ADAMANT

    IGN- @Juies || Youtube || Twitch
    EP - Julianos . Jules . Family Jules . Jules of Misrule. Joy
    DC - Julsie . Jules . Jukes . Jojuji . Juliet . Jaded
    AD - Juice . Jubaited . Joules . Julmanji . Julogy . Jubroni . Ju Jitsu



    Rest in Peace G & Yi
    Viva La Aristocracy
  • Rylana
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    I am going to struggle to find a home for all of my toons and still have my friends/guilds to play with.

    I dont even care about homing together, just let me guest anywhere i want, its not like im after double leaderboard or anything

    I just want to be able to fight people, and not be stuck on a goddamned buff server with no pvp because i homed to the wrong place
    @rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
    Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
    Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
    Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
    Forum LOL Champion (retired) == Black Belt in Ballista-Fu == The Last Vice Member == Praise Cheesus == Electro-Goblin
  • Lava_Croft
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    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Choosing a campaign should actually have any kind of meaning beyond the rewards and effectively lock you out from other campaigns. It's ridiculous how you can just hop from campaign to campaign.

    But what will happen if you are stuck with two campaigns--- one is dead and one is lagged out. Alt + F4?
    Dead campaigns won't happen that much if people are not free to just hop to whatever campaign they desire, regardless of their home/guest campaign.

    And the lag, well...
  •  Jules
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    Sometimes I like to cover myself in vaseline and pretend I'm a slug.
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Choosing a campaign should actually have any kind of meaning beyond the rewards and effectively lock you out from other campaigns. It's ridiculous how you can just hop from campaign to campaign.

    But what will happen if you are stuck with two campaigns--- one is dead and one is lagged out. Alt + F4?
    Dead campaigns won't happen that much if people are not free to just hop to whatever campaign they desire, regardless of their home/guest campaign.

    And the lag, well...

    How do you figure dead campaigns won't happen? Everyone's just going to stack 2 campaigns like always.
    JULES | PC NA | ADAMANT

    IGN- @Juies || Youtube || Twitch
    EP - Julianos . Jules . Family Jules . Jules of Misrule. Joy
    DC - Julsie . Jules . Jukes . Jojuji . Juliet . Jaded
    AD - Juice . Jubaited . Joules . Julmanji . Julogy . Jubroni . Ju Jitsu



    Rest in Peace G & Yi
    Viva La Aristocracy
  • Lava_Croft
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    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Choosing a campaign should actually have any kind of meaning beyond the rewards and effectively lock you out from other campaigns. It's ridiculous how you can just hop from campaign to campaign.

    But what will happen if you are stuck with two campaigns--- one is dead and one is lagged out. Alt + F4?
    Dead campaigns won't happen that much if people are not free to just hop to whatever campaign they desire, regardless of their home/guest campaign.

    And the lag, well...

    How do you figure dead campaigns won't happen? Everyone's just going to stack 2 campaigns like always.
    Currently on EU, there are no dead campaigns, so why would they suddenly start to exist after the patch? Dead campaigns don't exist because people don't want to queue for 3 hours before being able to play PvP. Every campaign is basically filled every night on the EU server.
  • Rylana
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Choosing a campaign should actually have any kind of meaning beyond the rewards and effectively lock you out from other campaigns. It's ridiculous how you can just hop from campaign to campaign.

    But what will happen if you are stuck with two campaigns--- one is dead and one is lagged out. Alt + F4?
    Dead campaigns won't happen that much if people are not free to just hop to whatever campaign they desire, regardless of their home/guest campaign.

    And the lag, well...

    How do you figure dead campaigns won't happen? Everyone's just going to stack 2 campaigns like always.
    Currently on EU, there are no dead campaigns, so why would they suddenly start to exist after the patch? Dead campaigns don't exist because people don't want to queue for 3 hours before being able to play PvP. Every campaign is basically filled every night on the EU server.

    On NA only Azuras is "healthy" with haderus being overflow. Both thorn and chillrend are completely dead and have been for some time.
    @rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
    Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
    Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
    Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
    Forum LOL Champion (retired) == Black Belt in Ballista-Fu == The Last Vice Member == Praise Cheesus == Electro-Goblin
  • Lava_Croft
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Choosing a campaign should actually have any kind of meaning beyond the rewards and effectively lock you out from other campaigns. It's ridiculous how you can just hop from campaign to campaign.

    But what will happen if you are stuck with two campaigns--- one is dead and one is lagged out. Alt + F4?
    Dead campaigns won't happen that much if people are not free to just hop to whatever campaign they desire, regardless of their home/guest campaign.

    And the lag, well...

    How do you figure dead campaigns won't happen? Everyone's just going to stack 2 campaigns like always.
    Currently on EU, there are no dead campaigns, so why would they suddenly start to exist after the patch? Dead campaigns don't exist because people don't want to queue for 3 hours before being able to play PvP. Every campaign is basically filled every night on the EU server.

    On NA only Azuras is "healthy" with haderus being overflow. Both thorn and chillrend are completely dead and have been for some time.
    If they are completely dead, that means the US server has a much lower population than the EU one. Unless the US server just has players who like to queue for several hours...

    That sucks.
  • Rylana
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Choosing a campaign should actually have any kind of meaning beyond the rewards and effectively lock you out from other campaigns. It's ridiculous how you can just hop from campaign to campaign.

    But what will happen if you are stuck with two campaigns--- one is dead and one is lagged out. Alt + F4?
    Dead campaigns won't happen that much if people are not free to just hop to whatever campaign they desire, regardless of their home/guest campaign.

    And the lag, well...

    How do you figure dead campaigns won't happen? Everyone's just going to stack 2 campaigns like always.
    Currently on EU, there are no dead campaigns, so why would they suddenly start to exist after the patch? Dead campaigns don't exist because people don't want to queue for 3 hours before being able to play PvP. Every campaign is basically filled every night on the EU server.

    On NA only Azuras is "healthy" with haderus being overflow. Both thorn and chillrend are completely dead and have been for some time.
    If they are completely dead, that means the US server has a much lower population than the EU one. Unless the US server just has players who like to queue for several hours...

    That sucks.

    Lets put it this way, entire factions move as a unit here. When the great thornblade exodus happened about four months ago, the entire pvp population essentially just moved from thorn to azuras (greener pastures my ass)

    What was left behind was a monochrome map that was flipped maybe once a week or two for emps to be farmed by the controlling faction (AD) - and only in the last week did a guild come and stay and try to contest it... at which point the AD there quit and went to Haderus (where the EP guild had come from)

    A lot of guilds and players on NA avoid small scale and gvg like the plague, most just want to run in the mindless zergball or rubberband between bleak/chal, nikel/ash, alessia/sej all day long

    So you do in fact get three way poplocked azuras about 8-10 hours out of the day, with queues sometimes extending into the hundreds. Though yes the population has noticeably thinned out recently.
    @rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
    Ebonheart Pact: Lyzara Dionysis - Sorc - AR 37 (Former Empress of Blackwater Blade and Haderus) == Shondra Dionysis - Temp - AR 23 == Arrianaya Dionysis - DK - AR 17
    Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
    Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
    Forum LOL Champion (retired) == Black Belt in Ballista-Fu == The Last Vice Member == Praise Cheesus == Electro-Goblin
  • Lava_Croft
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Choosing a campaign should actually have any kind of meaning beyond the rewards and effectively lock you out from other campaigns. It's ridiculous how you can just hop from campaign to campaign.

    But what will happen if you are stuck with two campaigns--- one is dead and one is lagged out. Alt + F4?
    Dead campaigns won't happen that much if people are not free to just hop to whatever campaign they desire, regardless of their home/guest campaign.

    And the lag, well...

    How do you figure dead campaigns won't happen? Everyone's just going to stack 2 campaigns like always.
    Currently on EU, there are no dead campaigns, so why would they suddenly start to exist after the patch? Dead campaigns don't exist because people don't want to queue for 3 hours before being able to play PvP. Every campaign is basically filled every night on the EU server.

    On NA only Azuras is "healthy" with haderus being overflow. Both thorn and chillrend are completely dead and have been for some time.
    If they are completely dead, that means the US server has a much lower population than the EU one. Unless the US server just has players who like to queue for several hours...

    That sucks.

    Lets put it this way, entire factions move as a unit here. When the great thornblade exodus happened about four months ago, the entire pvp population essentially just moved from thorn to azuras (greener pastures my ass)

    What was left behind was a monochrome map that was flipped maybe once a week or two for emps to be farmed by the controlling faction (AD) - and only in the last week did a guild come and stay and try to contest it... at which point the AD there quit and went to Haderus (where the EP guild had come from)

    A lot of guilds and players on NA avoid small scale and gvg like the plague, most just want to run in the mindless zergball or rubberband between bleak/chal, nikel/ash, alessia/sej all day long

    So you do in fact get three way poplocked azuras about 8-10 hours out of the day, with queues sometimes extending into the hundreds. Though yes the population has noticeably thinned out recently.
    Come play on EU! :trollface:
  • xaraan
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    The system was not established for troll camping. It was like that before that even started, it was there to keep people from swapping over to an enemy character on the same campaign and should stay that way.
    -- @xaraan --
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  • ShadoPanauin
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    xaraan wrote: »
    The system was not established for troll camping. It was like that before that even started, it was there to keep people from swapping over to an enemy character on the same campaign and should stay that way.

    So what exactly would the reasoning have been other than that spies and/or troll camping were issues? That's right; there wasn't any.
    Edited by ShadoPanauin on August 31, 2015 6:33PM
    R.I.P. Million Reasons to Bomb, he triggered ZOS

    Characters:
    Million Reasons to Rename - AD Magicka Nightblade
    Lúcio C - AD Stamina Sorcerer
    slaughterfishlivesmatter - AD Stamina Nightblade
    Million Reasons to Rake - DC Stamina Sorcerer
    Shadopandauin - EP Magicka DK
    Million Reasons to Lag - EP Magicka Sorcerer
  • Lava_Croft
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    xaraan wrote: »
    The system was not established for troll camping. It was like that before that even started, it was there to keep people from swapping over to an enemy character on the same campaign and should stay that way.

    So what exactly would the reasoning have been other than that spies and/or troll camping were issues? That's right; there wasn't any.
    If you don't see the issue with being able to log into the same campaign with characters on different factions, I think you don't really understand how ESO's PvP works.
  •  Jules
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Jules wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Choosing a campaign should actually have any kind of meaning beyond the rewards and effectively lock you out from other campaigns. It's ridiculous how you can just hop from campaign to campaign.

    But what will happen if you are stuck with two campaigns--- one is dead and one is lagged out. Alt + F4?
    Dead campaigns won't happen that much if people are not free to just hop to whatever campaign they desire, regardless of their home/guest campaign.

    And the lag, well...

    How do you figure dead campaigns won't happen? Everyone's just going to stack 2 campaigns like always.
    Currently on EU, there are no dead campaigns, so why would they suddenly start to exist after the patch? Dead campaigns don't exist because people don't want to queue for 3 hours before being able to play PvP. Every campaign is basically filled every night on the EU server.

    Then we play very different games.
    JULES | PC NA | ADAMANT

    IGN- @Juies || Youtube || Twitch
    EP - Julianos . Jules . Family Jules . Jules of Misrule. Joy
    DC - Julsie . Jules . Jukes . Jojuji . Juliet . Jaded
    AD - Juice . Jubaited . Joules . Julmanji . Julogy . Jubroni . Ju Jitsu



    Rest in Peace G & Yi
    Viva La Aristocracy
  • ShadoPanauin
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    xaraan wrote: »
    The system was not established for troll camping. It was like that before that even started, it was there to keep people from swapping over to an enemy character on the same campaign and should stay that way.

    So what exactly would the reasoning have been other than that spies and/or troll camping were issues? That's right; there wasn't any.
    If you don't see the issue with being able to log into the same campaign with characters on different factions, I think you don't really understand how ESO's PvP works.

    Again, I repeat my question: what was the alternate reasoning?
    R.I.P. Million Reasons to Bomb, he triggered ZOS

    Characters:
    Million Reasons to Rename - AD Magicka Nightblade
    Lúcio C - AD Stamina Sorcerer
    slaughterfishlivesmatter - AD Stamina Nightblade
    Million Reasons to Rake - DC Stamina Sorcerer
    Shadopandauin - EP Magicka DK
    Million Reasons to Lag - EP Magicka Sorcerer
  • Lava_Croft
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    xaraan wrote: »
    The system was not established for troll camping. It was like that before that even started, it was there to keep people from swapping over to an enemy character on the same campaign and should stay that way.

    So what exactly would the reasoning have been other than that spies and/or troll camping were issues? That's right; there wasn't any.
    If you don't see the issue with being able to log into the same campaign with characters on different factions, I think you don't really understand how ESO's PvP works.

    Again, I repeat my question: what was the alternate reasoning?
    Nobody knows.

    However it does go further than just spying. Alts on enemy factions have ran Elder Scrolls back to the faction of their main. Alts on enemy factions have helped farm Emperor. And I'm sure there's other 'neat' stuff you can do this way.
    Edited by Lava_Croft on September 1, 2015 2:09AM
  • ShadoPanauin
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    We should not have the whole "one faction per campaign" thing anymore.
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    xaraan wrote: »
    The system was not established for troll camping. It was like that before that even started, it was there to keep people from swapping over to an enemy character on the same campaign and should stay that way.

    So what exactly would the reasoning have been other than that spies and/or troll camping were issues? That's right; there wasn't any.
    If you don't see the issue with being able to log into the same campaign with characters on different factions, I think you don't really understand how ESO's PvP works.

    Again, I repeat my question: what was the alternate reasoning?
    Nobody knows.

    However it does go further than just spying. Alts on enemy factions have ran Elder Scrolls back to the faction of their main. Alts on enemy factions have helped farm Emperor. And I'm sure there's other 'neat' stuff you can do this way.

    Alts on enemy factions cannot help farm emperor because they are tied to one account - you cannot log into two characters of one account.

    As to Elder Scrolls, I've been playing PvP since April 2014 and have NEVER seen that strategy work.
    Edited by ShadoPanauin on September 1, 2015 2:59AM
    R.I.P. Million Reasons to Bomb, he triggered ZOS

    Characters:
    Million Reasons to Rename - AD Magicka Nightblade
    Lúcio C - AD Stamina Sorcerer
    slaughterfishlivesmatter - AD Stamina Nightblade
    Million Reasons to Rake - DC Stamina Sorcerer
    Shadopandauin - EP Magicka DK
    Million Reasons to Lag - EP Magicka Sorcerer
  • Master_Kas
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    I really dislike this change.

    Currently I have multiple AD characters, 1 EP char, 1 DC char.

    I use them all from time to time to play with friends on all sides.

    *cries*
    EU | PC
  • Master_Kas
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    xaraan wrote: »
    The system was not established for troll camping. It was like that before that even started, it was there to keep people from swapping over to an enemy character on the same campaign and should stay that way.

    So what exactly would the reasoning have been other than that spies and/or troll camping were issues? That's right; there wasn't any.
    If you don't see the issue with being able to log into the same campaign with characters on different factions, I think you don't really understand how ESO's PvP works.

    Again, I repeat my question: what was the alternate reasoning?
    Nobody knows.

    However it does go further than just spying. Alts on enemy factions have ran Elder Scrolls back to the faction of their main. Alts on enemy factions have helped farm Emperor. And I'm sure there's other 'neat' stuff you can do this way.

    Alts on enemy factions cannot help farm emperor because they are tied to one account - you cannot log into two characters of one account.

    As to Elder Scrolls, I've been playing PvP since April 2014 and have NEVER seen that strategy work.

    Oh believe me it works. I watched this happen myself just a few days ago.

    Was on my EP char, DC scroll was near arrius keep (EP owned the keep and scroll)

    A person from a DC guild swaps to her/his ep char, takes the scroll all the way to chalman where they waited for it. Ofc since the person was on EP char, we couldn't kill/stop her/him either.

    Think this is the incident @Lava_Croft is talking about.
    Edited by Master_Kas on September 1, 2015 3:39AM
    EU | PC
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