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Sun Shield
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Since the new changes have taken place with bubbles, and healing. This skill seems like it won't be worth slotting at all. Is there any plans to make it scale off of max magicka/spell damage or make it last 20+ secs like the sorc shield?
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SeptimusDova✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's a flashlight for finding mats, no other valid use. Unlike my sub money which bought 2 boxes of 7.62X39 for the range today. Blazing shield may have a use for cooking foods. But we don't have mobile craftingEdited by SeptimusDova on August 15, 2015 7:51PM1 -
Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭Not true at all. Dont listen to trolls and test it yourself.
From testings blazing shield is OK right now. Although the other morph is a much better choice right now unless you run 40k hp for its dmg to matter.
You can still indefinitely stack shields and live right now. They havent made crits possible on shield yet.
Lets put it this way: back then your magika regen dropped to zero while sun shield was up. Zero. Yet it was still extremely good, yet required a player who would use it at the right time (right before a burst so the regen nerf would not stick too long).
Right now, even though shields were nerfed, tell yourself that damage was nerfed too to it doesnt seem that much of a nerf. You just cant kill melee glasscannons with blazing shield damage anymore, which wasnt the case since 1.6.4 -
cazlonb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Blazing Shield damage has been insignificant since the bug with stacking it was fixed. With the changes in 2.1, it absorbs like 3-4k for pretty much all builds that are actually in use.
Not worth the skillbar slot, resources, or global cd cycle.5 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭For most builds a Breath of Life cast is the better option in most situations for several reasons:
- the magicka cost is nearly the same for about the same amount of HP recovered/shielded (base amount/ average HP)
- BoL heals mitigated HP, BS has no mitigation (although it does prevent crits...for now)
- there is no dangerous "bleed over" effect with BoL
- the damage from BS is nearly negligible at this point (might change later if they fix it, IF they fix it)
- BoL scales of your offensive resource pool, magicka and spell power, BS scales off maximum health
- BoL will also heal 2 other people nearby
- BoL can crit
BS can have uses as a "pre-heal" before charging in to attack. But it is very weak now.Edited by danno8 on August 15, 2015 10:02PM0 -
Manoekin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Not worth using. It'll pop generally before you can cast another skill because the shield value is terrible, and unless you read the tooltip you wouldn't think it even did damage in this PTS patch.1 -
Vatter✭✭✭✭✭For most builds a Breath of Life cast is the better option in most situations for several reasons:
- the magicka cost is nearly the same for about the same amount of HP recovered/shielded (base amount/ average HP)
- BoL heals mitigated HP, BS has no mitigation (although it does prevent crits...for now)
- there is no dangerous "bleed over" effect with BoL
- the damage from BS is nearly negligible at this point (might change later if they fix it, IF they fix it)
- BoL scales of your offensive resource pool, magicka and spell power, BS scales off maximum health
- BoL will also heal 2 other people nearby
- BoL can crit
BS can have uses as a "pre-heal" before charging in to attack. But it is very weak now.
problem with BoL though is its potency can be greatly reduced. easily too I might add0 -
Manoekin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭For most builds a Breath of Life cast is the better option in most situations for several reasons:
- the magicka cost is nearly the same for about the same amount of HP recovered/shielded (base amount/ average HP)
- BoL heals mitigated HP, BS has no mitigation (although it does prevent crits...for now)
- there is no dangerous "bleed over" effect with BoL
- the damage from BS is nearly negligible at this point (might change later if they fix it, IF they fix it)
- BoL scales of your offensive resource pool, magicka and spell power, BS scales off maximum health
- BoL will also heal 2 other people nearby
- BoL can crit
BS can have uses as a "pre-heal" before charging in to attack. But it is very weak now.
problem with BoL though is its potency can be greatly reduced. easily too I might add
That's when you cleanse. Sun Shield isn't going to remove that heal debuff either, and it certainly isn't going to stop you from dying at this stage of PTS.0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If you can find something else better to slot instead you should go for it, but there aren't really many options.For most builds a Breath of Life cast is the better option in most situations for several reasons:
- the magicka cost is nearly the same for about the same amount of HP recovered/shielded (base amount/ average HP)
- BoL heals mitigated HP, BS has no mitigation (although it does prevent crits...for now)
- there is no dangerous "bleed over" effect with BoL
- the damage from BS is nearly negligible at this point (might change later if they fix it, IF they fix it)
- BoL scales of your offensive resource pool, magicka and spell power, BS scales off maximum health
- BoL will also heal 2 other people nearby
- BoL can crit
BS can have uses as a "pre-heal" before charging in to attack. But it is very weak now.
problem with BoL though is its potency can be greatly reduced. easily too I might add
That's when you cleanse. Sun Shield isn't going to remove that heal debuff either, and it certainly isn't going to stop you from dying at this stage of PTS.
It is worth noting that on top of what you've said cleansing buffs your breath of life, so it all works out.Edited by timidobserver on August 15, 2015 10:31PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)0 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »If you can find something else better to slot instead you should go for it, but there aren't really many options.For most builds a Breath of Life cast is the better option in most situations for several reasons:
- the magicka cost is nearly the same for about the same amount of HP recovered/shielded (base amount/ average HP)
- BoL heals mitigated HP, BS has no mitigation (although it does prevent crits...for now)
- there is no dangerous "bleed over" effect with BoL
- the damage from BS is nearly negligible at this point (might change later if they fix it, IF they fix it)
- BoL scales of your offensive resource pool, magicka and spell power, BS scales off maximum health
- BoL will also heal 2 other people nearby
- BoL can crit
BS can have uses as a "pre-heal" before charging in to attack. But it is very weak now.
problem with BoL though is its potency can be greatly reduced. easily too I might add
That's when you cleanse. Sun Shield isn't going to remove that heal debuff either, and it certainly isn't going to stop you from dying at this stage of PTS.
It is worth noting that on top of what you've said cleansing buffs your breath of life, so it all works out.
And they fixed it so it applies the buff instantly now (haven't tested) so you can Purifying Ritual->BoL immediately now to better effect.0 -
Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭Lol. Go ahead not having a dmg shield on you non resto staff bar then. Those kill templar quests got a lot easier to complete suddently.0
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Manoekin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭houimetub17_ESO wrote: »Lol. Go ahead not having a dmg shield on you non resto staff bar then. Those kill templar quests got a lot easier to complete suddently.
No idea what you're talking about. Continue being bad, I'll continue not dying on the PTS.0 -
Farorin✭✭✭✭✭I tried blazing shields with a temp on pts, and it would break with like 1-3 light attacks, and would ALWAYS break either befor, or right after I was able to cast another ability. Was pretty terrible, which sucks considering my favourite temp is stampler, and it was the only good shield or heal that a stampler could use.0 -
Ryuho✭✭✭✭Nope, blazing shield is crap, not worth to use it.. 2k dmg, 4k shield its jsut to low.. imo DK shield and temp shield shouldn't be touched by shield nerf..The Farron family team (EU)
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Shield explotion is also reduced by battle spirit. And its damage is non affected by spell penetration and thaumaturge passive. So if your enemy has some spell resistance, it hits like 700-800 lol.Nope, blazing shield is crap, not worth to use it.. 2k dmg, 4k shield its jsut to low.. imo DK shield and temp shield shouldn't be touched by shield nerf..
Edited by Soris on August 16, 2015 3:04AMWelkynd [Templar/AD/EU]0 -
tinythinker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The base ability needs to stun or disorient people on activation, the Blazing Shield morph needs to knock people down when it explodes. It would be worth slotting.❤Experienced, new, returner?❤ Help keep ESO's community strong ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ -- share what you love about the game, offer constructive feedback, and make friends.ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ
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✭✭✭✭✭LyonheartCo wrote: »Does this nerf effect both PvE and PvP? Or is this just a PvP nerf?
It's still good for PvE. A nice balance of defense and offense. It's the double nerf to the offensive part of it due to the PvP debuff that is hurting it's effectiveness.0 -
Ryuho✭✭✭✭
Shield explotion is also reduced by battle spirit. And its damage is non affected by spell penetration and thaumaturge passive. So if your enemy has some spell resistance, it hits like 700-800 lol.Nope, blazing shield is crap, not worth to use it.. 2k dmg, 4k shield its jsut to low.. imo DK shield and temp shield shouldn't be touched by shield nerf..
Yeah.. OP!!
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sorcerer - Rubeus Farron AR31
templar - Selene Farron AR27
nightblade - Ryuho Farron AR25
stamplar - Nura Farron AR10
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DK - Ryu Farron AR17
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Springt-Über-Zwerge✭✭✭✭I won't skill it like 4 other templar abilities too so I have 10 Skillpoints more than the other classes to put into crafting which is nicePC,EU, EP
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LyonheartCo wrote: »Does this nerf effect both PvE and PvP? Or is this just a PvP nerf?
It's still good for PvE. A nice balance of defense and offense. It's the double nerf to the offensive part of it due to the PvP debuff that is hurting it's effectiveness.
ahh good.. i heal in PvP.. was worried my CP grinding would suck if it was effecting both!
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