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Suggestion: New item quality

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Malediktus
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I feel like the current "Legendary" item quality is too easy to achieve. There should be another level which could be called "Mystic".
The tempers for it should be an uncommon loot from veteran group content (dungeons, trails, the new vaults in IC) and be untradeable.
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  • Kammakazi
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    nahh
  • newtinmpls
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    I've been playing for a year and a half (a bit more) and have not yet gotten or crafted a "legendary" so I don't think it's "too easy".
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Let's see now... Been playing almost since PS4 release (internet sucks so took me a few days to download it) and within that time have only looted 2 Imperial Motifs... Yep, super easy.
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    UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
    Let's see now... Been playing almost since PS4 release (internet sucks so took me a few days to download it) and within that time have only looted 2 Imperial Motifs... Yep, super easy.

    That's not easy, that's luck, it took me over e year to find one.
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  • Molag_Crow
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    I don't think legendaries are that easy to get, but I can definitely see why others think so. The amount of exploit-ish farming spots such as the pigs, for example, created thousands upon thousands of legendary tanins from refined hides for players to make lots of legendary cloth/medium sets.

    Since I barely took part in the farming, I've only got enough wax to make 3 cloth/medium items legendary, and I'd rather not until v16..

    At least now the pigs were nerfed so that the chances to get legendary wax from refining hides has been decreased like crazy, though there are plenty of players with thousands of wax in their banks now.
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    UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
    Let's see now... Been playing almost since PS4 release (internet sucks so took me a few days to download it) and within that time have only looted 2 Imperial Motifs... Yep, super easy.

    You're doing well.
    I've gotten 3 since original Launch :) but it is a gold and one of the rarest.

    I'd prefer to see the Legendary we have get a buff and be more...Legendary.
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  • Brrrofski
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    I'm vet 12, been playing since xbox launch and have 32 tempering alloys. I can make 4 out of my 10 metal items legendary. Far from too easy.
  • Kuroinu
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    I like your idea for another tier, however I'd call it "Mythical" since it sounds more than Legendary. But perhaps, at least for me, it's a bit soon to add another tier.
  • Malediktus
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    UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
    Let's see now... Been playing almost since PS4 release (internet sucks so took me a few days to download it) and within that time have only looted 2 Imperial Motifs... Yep, super easy.

    I am not talking about motif books, I am talking about gear quality level.
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  • Leandor
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    Ah hell, this again...

    No. Stop trying to make crafting useless and force group only content. No need to discuss drop chances, commonality or anything else.

    You want to gate equipment behind a part of the game that a significant part of the players don't want or aren't able to take part in. Shove it where sun don't shine.
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    newtinmpls wrote: »
    I've been playing for a year and a half (a bit more) and have not yet gotten or crafted a "legendary" so I don't think it's "too easy".

    A year and a half and no legendary? Have you spent your entire /played fishing?
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  • firstdecan
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    This is a fantastic idea. ZoS should release a new ever more impossible to achieve tier of items with every DLC they create. Just like the Vr15\16 mats require a hundred or so to create one VR16 item, we need it to get to the point where it takes thousands of items that have an infinitesimally small chance of dropping in order to get to that *next* level of improvement. Really, if it takes, on average, 5000 hours of game play to get one of these tempers, and then you need 200 of them to improve to the next quality level, I think we'll have achieved the balanced level of gameplay everyone has been looking for.
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    I'm vet 12, been playing since xbox launch and have 32 tempering alloys. I can make 4 out of my 10 metal items legendary. Far from too easy.

    32 is enough to upgrade 9 items with a 100% chance... if you maxed out the tempers passive. Which, you know, you should.

    EDIT, no, wait, I'm an idiot. I was calculating for purples, mybad.
    Edited by starkerealm on August 21, 2015 2:34PM
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    starkerealm wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    I'm vet 12, been playing since xbox launch and have 32 tempering alloys. I can make 4 out of my 10 metal items legendary. Far from too easy.

    32 is enough to upgrade 9 items with a 100% chance... if you maxed out the tempers passive. Which, you know, you should.
    You actually need 8 tempers with maxed out perk to go from purple to gold.
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  • Legendary2150
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    Nah Legendary is quite not easy to achieve and if they added Mystic non-trade-able would ruin it
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    Leandor wrote: »
    starkerealm wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    I'm vet 12, been playing since xbox launch and have 32 tempering alloys. I can make 4 out of my 10 metal items legendary. Far from too easy.

    32 is enough to upgrade 9 items with a 100% chance... if you maxed out the tempers passive. Which, you know, you should.
    You actually need 8 tempers with maxed out perk to go from purple to gold.

    Yeah, that was the math I was doing in my head. Because the coffee hasn't kicked in yet.
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    starkerealm wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    starkerealm wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    I'm vet 12, been playing since xbox launch and have 32 tempering alloys. I can make 4 out of my 10 metal items legendary. Far from too easy.

    32 is enough to upgrade 9 items with a 100% chance... if you maxed out the tempers passive. Which, you know, you should.
    You actually need 8 tempers with maxed out perk to go from purple to gold.

    Yeah, that was the math I was doing in my head. Because the coffee hasn't kicked in yet.
    Ah, sorry, didn't realize the time over the big lake... Here, have one of those:

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  • Teiji
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    Malediktus it will probably be here a year from now.

    Items which will function like Master's Weapons except they will be Artifact quality.

    The only way is forwards with progression systems after all. Artifact weapons will be customisable by the way, think Spellcrafting but for weapons, this means being able to change Traits too.
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  • Malediktus
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    Teiji wrote: »
    Malediktus it will probably be here a year from now.

    Items which will function like Master's Weapons except they will be Artifact quality.

    The only way is forwards with progression systems after all. Artifact weapons will be customisable by the way, think Spellcrafting but for weapons, this means being able to change Traits too.

    Purple is called Artifact already if I recall right. I wonder why artifact is usually considered an item quality. It means nothing more than it is a hand crafted item.
    Leandor wrote: »
    Ah hell, this again...

    No. Stop trying to make crafting useless and force group only content. No need to discuss drop chances, commonality or anything else.

    You want to gate equipment behind a part of the game that a significant part of the players don't want or aren't able to take part in. Shove it where sun don't shine.

    Group content is the core of any MMO, maybe you should play single player games if you want to have the best stuff for solo activities.
    Edited by Malediktus on August 21, 2015 3:47PM
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    starkerealm wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    I'm vet 12, been playing since xbox launch and have 32 tempering alloys. I can make 4 out of my 10 metal items legendary. Far from too easy.

    32 is enough to upgrade 9 items with a 100% chance... if you maxed out the tempers passive. Which, you know, you should.

    EDIT, no, wait, I'm an idiot. I was calculating for purples, mybad.
    You could upgrade only 8 items to purple though. You need more coffee. :p
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  • Leandor
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    Malediktus wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Ah hell, this again...

    No. Stop trying to make crafting useless and force group only content. No need to discuss drop chances, commonality or anything else.

    You want to gate equipment behind a part of the game that a significant part of the players don't want or aren't able to take part in. Shove it where sun don't shine.
    Group content is the core of any MMO, maybe you should play single player games if you want to have the best stuff for solo activities.
    Can't you at least find some other...

    Ah hell, why even bother... Good day, mate. Have fun.
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  • Thymos
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Stop trying to force group only content.

    That's all you needed to write.
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  • Malediktus
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    Thymos wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Stop trying to force group only content.

    That's all you needed to write.
    Having strong incentives to group content is not the same as forced group content. As far as I know you can play all non group content just fine with white quality items even.
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    I definitely agree. But I would also suggest a different name - faptastic - to suit the brilliance of the idea even more.

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    Edited by F7sus4 on August 21, 2015 5:44PM
  • Leandor
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    Thymos wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Stop trying to force group only content.

    That's all you needed to write.
    I give you that one, that would have been the "moral high ground" reaction. I did that the last time this topic came up. I don't have the patience to deal with elitists anymore. Proof?
    Malediktus wrote: »
    Thymos wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Stop trying to force group only content.

    That's all you needed to write.
    Having strong incentives to group content is not the same as forced group content. As far as I know you can play all non group content just fine with white quality items even.

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  • Malediktus
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Thymos wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Stop trying to force group only content.

    That's all you needed to write.
    I give you that one, that would have been the "moral high ground" reaction. I did that the last time this topic came up. I don't have the patience to deal with elitists anymore. Proof?
    Malediktus wrote: »
    Thymos wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Stop trying to force group only content.

    That's all you needed to write.
    Having strong incentives to group content is not the same as forced group content. As far as I know you can play all non group content just fine with white quality items even.
    And the elitists dont have time to deal with the filthy peasants anymore :D Considering I dont have a single max level character I can hardly be elitist so you should find better arguments against this suggestion.
    Not to mention elitism is nothing bad. Every community and society needs elitists to develop and evolve.
    Edited by Malediktus on August 21, 2015 6:31PM
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