Dracane wrote: »

Huggalump wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Huggalump wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Huggalump wrote: »

So they made a bunch of unannounced tweaks to magic sorcs, but didn't make any of the announced tweaks to stam sorcs.

neat

Not necessearily. All Sorcerer profit from.. 1%... more...Healing when hitting enemies with blood magic.
Sorcerer tanks profit from the Clannfear (who are Stamina based)
Not sure if they also raised the healing received of Critical surge, this helps stamina Sorcerers.
1 Second more Ball of Lightning helps Stamina Sorcerer.

I don't know why you quoted me, none of the things you mentioned are the stam sorc tweaks they said are coming in the live stream.

And did you mean Clanfear can be stamina based now or am I misreading that?

I was talking to you
You said, stamina Sorcs got nothing. They got nothing specific, neither did Magicka Sorcerer. But all these changes are healthy for stamina Sorcs as well. That's what I meant

right, ok I see. Right, there were things changed. Nothing that will make a difference addressing the actual problems stamina sorcs face. But yes, there were things that were changed.

Hey, Magicka Sorcerers have problems as well

Are you referring to PvE problems obviously? Cause it is kinda hard for me to believe you are actually talking about PvP.

kkampaseb17_ESO wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Huggalump wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Huggalump wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Huggalump wrote: »

So they made a bunch of unannounced tweaks to magic sorcs, but didn't make any of the announced tweaks to stam sorcs.

neat

Not necessearily. All Sorcerer profit from.. 1%... more...Healing when hitting enemies with blood magic.
Sorcerer tanks profit from the Clannfear (who are Stamina based)
Not sure if they also raised the healing received of Critical surge, this helps stamina Sorcerers.
1 Second more Ball of Lightning helps Stamina Sorcerer.

I don't know why you quoted me, none of the things you mentioned are the stam sorc tweaks they said are coming in the live stream.

And did you mean Clanfear can be stamina based now or am I misreading that?

I was talking to you
You said, stamina Sorcs got nothing. They got nothing specific, neither did Magicka Sorcerer. But all these changes are healthy for stamina Sorcs as well. That's what I meant

right, ok I see. Right, there were things changed. Nothing that will make a difference addressing the actual problems stamina sorcs face. But yes, there were things that were changed.

Hey, Magicka Sorcerers have problems as well

Are you referring to PvE problems obviously? Cause it is kinda hard for me to believe you are actually talking about PvP.

Depends on if you want build diversity for a class. PvE is my main concern, right now, when I think about buffs to sorcs.

olsborg wrote: »

Thanks @Dracane for the post. Ive also tried looking for un-noted changes, like the instant cast rune cage etc.

You're welcome. I wonder, why they make changes that are not in the patchnotes
I like those liddle surprises though.

Unfortunately I did not record myself looking at every Templar class abilitiy in PTS v2.1 - I did get a few clips where I looked at specific skills, only thing I immediately noticed is lower max dmg cap on purifying light (magika morph of Backlash) - on PTS v2.1 it went from 9,900-ish to 8,200 (reduced by roughly 17%)

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

BoL Buff!

Here's to you, Eric Wrobel!

Lol everyone is blowing their load over 2.5 second BoL when we used to have a 6.5 second one.

This is hardly something to be celebrating.

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

BoL Buff!

Here's to you, Eric Wrobel!

It's too early to break out the champagne, in my opinion. 2.5 seconds is still too short to keep 100% uptime, and if a buff doesn't work all the time, what is the point of slotting it instead of something that does?

Cathexis wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

BoL Buff!

Here's to you, Eric Wrobel!

Lol everyone is blowing their load over 2.5 second BoL when we used to have a 6.5 second one.

This is hardly something to be celebrating.

Whatever dudes! 6.5" was too much. 100% uptime and complete immunity to all ranged spells was too stronk. I was behind the idea of nerfing it, despite being a user of it.

Of course 1.5" was an over-nerf but with this recent change it's probably going to be a good alternative to Streak again

Completely agree. I'm a stam sorc. I want to see buffs as much as anyone in ESO. But I want to see balanced buffs. 100% uptime immunity to ranged attacks is goofy.

Xael wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

How can you say buffs are fair? Any buff to one of the top two classes while the underdogs get nerfed is rediculous. How is this even fun for you?

And I am not biased either. no love for stam sorcs? Screw this game.

And yes people will still complain. They nerfed all shields and damage. So how does it help that the 50% reduction is working if it was for all shields as well as damage? Honestly what am I missing here?

Calling DKs underdogs is total horseshit.
The only reason people call them underdogs is the legion of morons posting "NB/Sorc are OP" crap. There are plenty of DKs that still make Cyrodiil their toilet.

How anecdotal. Sure, they can tank a large group of morons that dont know how to abuse fear. But when you actually stop talking out of your ass and actually play a DK, and look at the numbers and tool-tips of their abilities. You realize just how much in a bad spot they are.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Regarding the first post, we're working on getting documentation for all the changes to Sorcerers that are currently missing from the patch notes. Sorry about that, guys.

Hey Gina, can you get Eric his own forum account?

So he can /lurk like @ZOS_RichLambert and get tagged in my Leonardo Di Caprio memes?

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Regarding the first post, we're working on getting documentation for all the changes to Sorcerers that are currently missing from the patch notes. Sorry about that, guys.

In the patch notes you listed a "vague" statement along the lines of "fixed a bunch of abilities that were not receiving the battle bonus buff nerf", I had ask what those abilities are but hadn't got a response. Can you please list these changes / abilities for ALL classes?

Dracane wrote: »

@Draehl I agree. 2,5 seconds is reasonable and perfectly valid.

I also can confirm, that damage shields in Cyrodiil now work as intended. Their values are correctly reduced by 50%.
8k Hardened ward with average Magicka. So 1 or max 2 hits and it breaks

If there are still people compaining now, then I don't know what to say

-Overload exploit still in the game.

3 surprise attacks + 1 light attack to break one hardened ward today ( tested with starkahs sorc)

So no not one or two hits.

We shouldn't even compare the costs for 1 hardened ward vs 3 surprise attacks.

Cathexis wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

BoL Buff!

Here's to you, Eric Wrobel!

Lol everyone is blowing their load over 2.5 second BoL when we used to have a 6.5 second one.

This is hardly something to be celebrating.

I think 2.5 is actually a buff in many ways over 6.5. 1.5 was definitely too short but 2.5 is still short enough to prevent the bug cause by consecutive casts of ball of lightning which ended up making your oldest ball the one that absorbed projectiles which ended up leaving your vulnerable.

I think I'll probably keep BoL on my Sorc now due to this, especially since we'll have instant cast CC and will not want to waste CC immunity with streak in many cases.

BE and its morphs now halt movement after use if in the air. Instead of continuing on a path after blinking, you now freeze and fall straight down. I'm getting annoyed with these animation changes.

Ezareth wrote: »

Cathexis wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

BoL Buff!

Here's to you, Eric Wrobel!

Lol everyone is blowing their load over 2.5 second BoL when we used to have a 6.5 second one.

This is hardly something to be celebrating.

I think 2.5 is actually a buff in many ways over 6.5. 1.5 was definitely too short but 2.5 is still short enough to prevent the bug cause by consecutive casts of ball of lightning which ended up making your oldest ball the one that absorbed projectiles which ended up leaving your vulnerable.

I think I'll probably keep BoL on my Sorc now due to this, especially since we'll have instant cast CC and will not want to waste CC immunity with streak in many cases.

That's a nerf, not a fix. Let's not confuse the two. If it were a fix, it would still be 6.5 seconds.

Dracane wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

Kova wrote: »

BE and its morphs now halt movement after use if in the air. Instead of continuing on a path after blinking, you now freeze and fall straight down. I'm getting annoyed with these animation changes.

That was probably a stealth nerf to prevent lag-bolting and people bolt escaping into Aleswell and such from the Stairs.

What a stupid way to fix an issue in the game.

I hope this is a bug. Because this occured when this update went online for the first time. You would be rooted while using bolt escape, it feels so wrong and weird. With the last patch, I think it was gone or slightly better ? But it's back now.

I'm just waiting for them to take it out of the game all together. I didn't like the first fix in which you couldn't jump and blink. Now it's like you blink into an invisible wall. I'm going to guess from this pattern that, in the future, we're going to see magnetic blinking in which we'll be stuck to the ground when we do it.

I understand it's to limit exploiting, but there's a point at which I don't care if I see a flying sleigh pulled by 8 santa sorcs if it means adding limitations to movement and barriers that begin before actual walls and rocks are reached.