That's it for Templars?
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Thanks. However, are we sad? No, we are proud.Supernovas wrote: »a big
to all us sad templars out there.
Proud of playing an inferior class against all odds because it is our favorite.
Instead of playing a superior class as it is fashionable because it is the designer's favorite.2 -
david.haypreub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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On a Templar issue? Maybe in a year.
Templars are 'just slower... by design'
Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161959/templar-skills-bugged-made-useless-ignored/p24
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Kaliki✭✭✭✭I tested radiant destruction yesterday. Never had a crit in my tests.
Also I found that the Enduring Rays passive reduces its dps slightly and when I compared the animation duration I found it takes a bit longer to finish on PTS (3.1 sec on live and 3.45 sec on PTS)...
Better not dig too deep on templar issues... Just end up wasting lots of time and no fixes can be expected in less than 6 months anyway.
Edit: not true. Fixes have always come quickly and numerous if templars had a good ability that needed nerfs. OP jabs only lasted a week on PTS if I remember correctly.^^Edited by Kaliki on August 14, 2015 7:16PM- Templars: Slower by Design® -0 -
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LOL, so true.
But Ramsey only had Sansa for a few weeks, while ZOS has had us for over a year.
Templars are 'just slower... by design'
Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161959/templar-skills-bugged-made-useless-ignored/p24
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kaithuzar✭✭✭✭✭
✭I tested radiant destruction yesterday. Never had a crit in my tests.
Also I found that the Enduring Rays passive reduces its dps slightly and when I compared the animation duration I found it takes a bit longer to finish on PTS (3.1 sec on live and 3.45 sec on PTS)...
Better not dig too deep on templar issues... Just end up wasting lots of time and no fixes can be expected in less than 6 months anyway.
Edit: not true. Fixes have always come quickly and numerous if templars had a good ability that needed nerfs. OP jabs only lasted a week on PTS if I remember correctly.^^
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✭✭Other classes have their bugs fixed. Templar's bugs become features...Edited by Anhedonie on August 14, 2015 11:11PMProfanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.2 -
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don't worry, ZOS will swiftly correct the 'unblockable' bug and make sure that the 'not critting' bug remains!!!
I bet....
Edited by Rhaegar75 on August 15, 2015 2:26PM2 -
Grunim✭✭✭✭✭@kaithuzar, @Supernovas, @Grunim:
Are you just joking or are you serious that the additional 40-50 spell power on the 5 pc bonus of Soulshine over a normal VR14 set bonus gives Templars an advantage?
I was sure kaithuzar was just trolling when I read 45k burst dps for Templars, but with the others chiming in...
I still believe that it would be awesome if there were new sets offering bonuses while channeling and casting. If this is the way the devs want templars to be, it would be nice if we had sets to make use of our slow and sluggish skills.
I dunno, I'm a casual player who doesn't like to min/max and I still use v10 Soulshine for my V14 character. I don't like gear grinds and participating in an arms race. I liked what the Soulshine set did and at this point I'm not sure I'll be upgrading my gear until the Orsinium DLC comes out.
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contact.opiumb16_ESO✭✭✭✭templar !
When i first try this class in beta, i loved it so much ! For over a year now i played my imperial templar proudly, even if people killed me in pvp content so easily. I tried harder, grinding the good stuff, trying to adapt : first hybrid build (worked pretty nicely), then 1.6 came with the "no soft cap issue" (what a bad idea in a mmo !). I tried the stamplar, the magicka templar etc. I tried harder and harder to become a "good player", but i died so fast that i thinked that i was a bad pvp player. A few weeks ago a rerolled as a magicka nb, just for fun, and a dk.
AND THE SAD REALLITY CAME TO ME AS A TRUCK IN HITTING ME IN MY FACE : even with a basic stuff and not being a VET14, i now am able to crush so many people without being one shotted every time i try to face an ennemy. Sure when i face top rank players i can't do anything BUT i now completly realise the difference of power between other classes and templars. Templars are weak by design, excep for healing.
I will now completely forget my templar caracter and focus on my NB and DK. It is sad but the thing is real : templars are just healers, nothing more, and it will be the same in the next patch. Bugged skills, bad design and no good passives.
The only positive thing in this sad experience is that i am now a good killer in pvp because i ran the hard way for a long time. Things in Cyrodil seems to be easy now !1 -
Ludof✭✭✭contact.opiumb16_ESO wrote: »templar !
When i first try this class in beta, i loved it so much ! For over a year now i played my imperial templar proudly, even if people killed me in pvp content so easily. I tried harder, grinding the good stuff, trying to adapt : first hybrid build (worked pretty nicely), then 1.6 came with the "no soft cap issue" (what a bad idea in a mmo !). I tried the stamplar, the magicka templar etc. I tried harder and harder to become a "good player", but i died so fast that i thinked that i was a bad pvp player. A few weeks ago a rerolled as a magicka nb, just for fun, and a dk.
AND THE SAD REALLITY CAME TO ME AS A TRUCK IN HITTING ME IN MY FACE : even with a basic stuff and not being a VET14, i now am able to crush so many people without being one shotted every time i try to face an ennemy. Sure when i face top rank players i can't do anything BUT i now completly realise the difference of power between other classes and templars. Templars are weak by design, excep for healing.
I will now completely forget my templar caracter and focus on my NB and DK. It is sad but the thing is real : templars are just healers, nothing more, and it will be the same in the next patch. Bugged skills, bad design and no good passives.
The only positive thing in this sad experience is that i am now a good killer in pvp because i ran the hard way for a long time. Things in Cyrodil seems to be easy now !
I had exactly the same experience playing an Imperial Stamplar and Breton Magicka Templar;
now I just accept that I have to lvl up a NB to hit hard and survive in Cyrodiil
Edited by Ludof on August 15, 2015 6:43PM[EP-EU]
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jnjdun_ESO✭✭✭david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »Officially retiring my Templar for now. I've played through beta up till now, but there's just really no point anymore.
My level 18 Nightblade is already better in PvP than my VR 14 Templar ever was. My VR 5 Sorc destroys my Templar. Why swim against the stream when it's never going to change course?
Sad, but it will mean a lot less heartache.
Templars are strong, just need to play right
It's really more of a fun issue for me at this point. My Templar is on a break now as well.
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Rhaegar75✭✭✭✭✭jnjdun_ESO wrote: »david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »Officially retiring my Templar for now. I've played through beta up till now, but there's just really no point anymore.
My level 18 Nightblade is already better in PvP than my VR 14 Templar ever was. My VR 5 Sorc destroys my Templar. Why swim against the stream when it's never going to change course?
Sad, but it will mean a lot less heartache.
Templars are strong, just need to play right
It's really more of a fun issue for me at this point. My Templar is on a break now as well.
Maybe IC and the patch that comes with it will surprise me, but I'm not banking on it.
I'll a;ways be a Templar but my valiant knight is also taking a break; my young NB is only LV42. Sadly I can chew poor Templars in Cyro...and if they are super tanky they hit me with the power of a wet noodle.
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BugCollector✭✭✭✭BugCollector wrote: »What we still need:
1. No free CC immunity from Puncturing Strikes
2. No global cooldown on Focused Charge
3. Slightly increased damage on Spear Shards in order to increase aoe dps
4. Chance to instant cast Dark Flare
5. Slightly increased damage ceiling on Backlash
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Thalmor-Nordmaster✭✭✭✭✭so when will this thread be buried like the skills bugged made useless ignored one ?3 -
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✭At first I was very upset over the changes although I am now only concerned with a few issues. I think Templars will be ok as we have always been the underdog class in the game with the most potential.
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true. And finally since game release "zealot" style will be viable.we have always been the underdog class in the game with the most potential.0 -
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✭Patch notes 2.1.2
"Templar
Dawn’s Wrath
Radiant Destruction: This ability and its morphs can now critically hit."
That's it?
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AriBoh✭✭✭✭✭They don't care face it.khele23eb17
Agreed. Whoever came up with the design should be shot in the foot and only admitted to hospital when he manages to find 3 other people willing to maim themselves the same way in order to accompany him.
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