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Kagrenac's Hope possibly bugged

daphil01
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I haven't seen a specific "bug" thread yet, but I thought I would mention that either the 5 piece bonus to Kagnerac's Hope/Battle Res/Master Ritualist are not functioning as intended. My resses on the PTS last night were painfully slow with all the armor and both points in the passives. I verified that the percentages on the passives and on the armor are the same as they were on live.

I can do some timing tonight with the armor on and off to verify if it is the armor tonight when I login, but overall something is definitely off. Spell damage was added to the 5th trait, if it causes the ressing to be this slow the armor set is worthless.

Thanks,
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  • Anazasi
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    I can confirm this bug as well the set is not applying the rez bonus inside of IC. Did not test it in Cryodill as there were no dead people.

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  • daphil01
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    I will test it in cyrodil proper tonight. If it doesn't work then the set is worthless. ;/

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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Thanks guys, we'll take a look.
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  • xaraan
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    Don't think it's the armor, I think it's the templar or All War passive that isn't working right. Because both my templar that wears it and another templar that does not had the same slow rez. Also, it was working ok initially when we started the PTS, but wasn't working later.
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  • Manoekin
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    Yeah one of the res bonuses does not work in IC.
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  • Ezareth
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    Hrmm. Is it possible that they finally removed the stacking of the Templar passive with this set so that they can't 1-second ress people now? I always thought that was pretty absurd myself as I saw a templar ress a group of 5 people in the space it took me to get in range of him using this set.
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  • xaraan
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Hrmm. Is it possible that they finally removed the stacking of the Templar passive with this set so that they can't 1-second ress people now? I always thought that was pretty absurd myself as I saw a templar ress a group of 5 people in the space it took me to get in range of him using this set.

    No. Then it makes the passives useless together and the armor useless with it. Nobody would use it or waste skill points on the passives that play a templar. God forbid another class can do something another cannot. Like bolt escape, or invis fifty times in a row... oh wait.
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  • olsborg
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    Can someone post a picture of the set here pls? What is the spelldmg buff exactly now? Thx
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  • Ezareth
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    xaraan wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    Hrmm. Is it possible that they finally removed the stacking of the Templar passive with this set so that they can't 1-second ress people now? I always thought that was pretty absurd myself as I saw a templar ress a group of 5 people in the space it took me to get in range of him using this set.

    No. Then it makes the passives useless together and the armor useless with it. Nobody would use it or waste skill points on the passives that play a templar. God forbid another class can do something another cannot. Like bolt escape, or invis fifty times in a row... oh wait.

    It's hardly on the same level as creating a nearly unkillable group that can only die when its templar run out of soulgems. I've no problem with them stacking but the effect should be multiplicative not additive. Sub second resses are insane.

    You ever try to take a keep with one of these templar inside with a bag full of gems?

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  • badmojo
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    You ever try to take a keep with one of these templar inside with a bag full of gems?

    Yeah, the group focuses on killing the Templar first.

    It's really the same as any group fight, take out the healer and the rest will follow.
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  • Anazasi
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    Tested this out and in IC. The bug is pretty simple. fast rez works outside IC but the alliance support passive does not work inside the city. Not sure of this was intended so please comment on this or apply fix NA PC PTS.

    Probably none of the passives from Alliance tree are active inside the city.
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  • Ezareth
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    badmojo wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    You ever try to take a keep with one of these templar inside with a bag full of gems?

    Yeah, the group focuses on killing the Templar first.

    It's really the same as any group fight, take out the healer and the rest will follow.

    Sure that is the obvious strategy but what if there are two templar? or 5?

    It simply should not be possible to battlefield ress someone in less than a second no matter what set you're wearing. You can ress people with 100% health, a 10K+ damage shield and a huge magic regen bonus etc. They may as well have never died.

    I don't care whether they "fix" this or not....I'm just pointing out the fact that it is OP as hell and has the potential to be abused (especially now that the set is apparently buffed).
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  • ToRelax
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    Can you actually get less then one second rez?
    I know the bonuses are additive, but thus one gets a 2 second channel as a Templar with the support pasive and kagrenac's hope. Honestly, I didn't find it worth using until now since it was more important the templar stayed alive himself than being able to rez the others fast when he already failed.
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  • timidobserver
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    IC is in Cyrodil, so all Cyrodil passives should be working there. I imagine that they will fix it.
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  • olsborg
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    Whats the spelldmg buff on the 5th set bonus? Im a EU player so I cant access the crafting station on pts before they copy EU chars next week or so..
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Just wanted to follow up and let you all know that we did confirm an issue with Battle Resurrection not functioning inside Imperial City, which is not intended. We'll make sure this gets fixed in a future patch!
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  • Komma
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    It may be something to do with the fifth passive on a set after you die. I have to remove and re equip my night silence for the stealth run speed bonus. Maybe its happening on all sets but people arent noticing.
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  • Anazasi
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    The rez is 1.25 seconds which is equal to 75% rez speed. I have been using it on Taran since camps were removed. its viable in all aspects of the game and to complain about it is like crying over camps.
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  • AzraelAcid
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    Seems that there is also trouble with this set when taking Cold damage. I'm not sure if it's the set itself, or the increase to cold damage. However, while not wearing it, I'm not talking nearly as much cold damage with other sets..... possibly a bug?
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  • GreyRanger
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    AzraelAcid wrote: »
    Seems that there is also trouble with this set when taking Cold damage. I'm not sure if it's the set itself, or the increase to cold damage. However, while not wearing it, I'm not talking nearly as much cold damage with other sets..... possibly a bug?

    FYI: there is a pretty long thread about damage bugs with the set here:
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2272621#Comment_2272621

    Moderator response was we will look at it, but no word back on what they found
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