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Why not fix nirn and shield stacking and see how 1.6 handles first?

Baphomet
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Because those imbalances aside - well, parts of the champion system, too - 1.6 is actually nearing a point where it is a solid and stable build - so why just throw all that out the window?

Especially seen in the light that history tells us, that everytime a new big build is pushed out, the player base has to suffer 6+ months of bug and exploit fixing.

1.6 is intense, fast-paced, visceral, reactive and good duels can last 5-10 minutes. In 1.7, PvP combat is slow, clunky, dull and... quite frankly a lot more boring. Not to mention that good duels will probably last 20 minutes, and who has the time for that... well, in 6 months time they will, once the bugs and exploits are fixed and 1.8 is around the corner.

Whatever happened to the old philosophy of building a solid foundation and then continiue building on top of that once it is stable and has proven its worth? Why tear it all down and build from scratch all the time?

I am quite certain that there can be found other stuff to do in order to keep the mappers, programmers and designers employed - like fixing current bugs and adding new content.

I expect that 1.6 would perform wonderfully if just nirn and shield stacking would be fixed. Perma-blocking and infinite dodge-rolling are hardly issues anymore because people have learnt to combat it.

Just a thought.
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  • Ezareth
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    I'll admit I enjoy the combat in 1.6 far more than I'm enjoying it in 1.7 so far.

    The problem is it only takes one weapon-swap delay/unbreakable cc to kill you in 1.6, where in 1.7 it isn't a death sentence.
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  • Baphomet
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    Agreed - on top of the things proposed in the OP post, they could try to add the 20% reduction to 1.6 and let it play out for a while...along with tweaking a few skills, too.
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  • Armitas
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    I haven't played 1.7 yet because last time I participated it was a waste of time, but from the way things sound I am pretty worried about getting stuck with another bad update for another 6 months. I'm not going to wait that long again for broken stuff to be fixed.

    I really think adding new potential problems like the block changes, crit shield changes, and reversing metas for no reason like skoria to neneirth are a bad idea when you haven't stabilized the last changes. They are fixing a destabilization by further destabilizations, rather than directly stabilizing the changes they made before. On top of that you have the 50% global nerfs which are just baffling to me as a means to fix clear and specific problems. Why not fix those specific things rather than breaking a handful of things to fix one thing?

    But this could all be a flaming mess for PvP and still get railroaded through because by the time we enter PTS it's too late for anything.
    Edited by Armitas on August 3, 2015 4:51PM
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  • Personofsecrets
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    This is one of the best posts on the PTS forum.
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  • Dracane
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    I'll admit I enjoy the combat in 1.6 far more than I'm enjoying it in 1.7 so far.

    The problem is it only takes one weapon-swap delay/unbreakable cc to kill you in 1.6, where in 1.7 it isn't a death sentence.

    Same here :( I love the game so much since 1.6
    I don't want this to end.
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  • Robbmrp
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    If they would fix these things, this game would be one of the best out there.

    1- PVP Lag
    2- Shield Stacking
    3- Nirnhoned
    4- Weapon Swap lock causing nothing to be castable, have to dodge roll to break.
    5- Wrecking Blow animation cancelling + Heavy attack cause both to hit simultaneously.

    These 5 things resolved and we'd have one of the most fun PVP/PVE games to enjoy. These alone would be worth re-subbing for.

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