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Overload Exploit still a thing on 2.1 PTS

  • Dracane
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    The thing with this exploit is, that it brings shame over everyone who uses Overload.

    Many many many people believe, that Overload offers no 3rd bar and that if you use an ability from your Overload bar, they think you're an exploiter.
    In fact I was accused of being an exploiter for using Lightning Form on my Overload bar. This bar belongs to my build and I have some abilities on it, because my pet build totally destroys my diversity and I just need this to have few more abilities.

    So no matter if you exploit or not, people will view you as an exploiter for activating Overload.
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    Dracane wrote: »
    The thing with this exploit is, that it brings shame over everyone who uses Overload.

    Many many many people believe, that Overload offers no 3rd bar and that if you use an ability from your Overload bar, they think you're an exploiter.
    In fact I was accused of being an exploiter for using Lightning Form on my Overload bar. This bar belongs to my build and I have some abilities on it, because my pet build totally destroys my diversity and I just need this to have few more abilities.

    So no matter if you exploit or not, people will view you as an exploiter for activating Overload.

    The sad part is it is the guy who dont have overload on their bar who are the exploiters.
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    Ezareth wrote: »

    The sad part is it is the guy who dont have overload on their bar who are the exploiters.

    You mean the ones who use the exploit and then don't even keep it on their bar ?

    I admit, I used the Magelight exploit. Most Sorcerers did.
    And I still use it in PvE. Because Sorcerer DPS is so horrible, using the exploit and gaining this additional Magicka, is the only thing keeping my DPS somewhat in line.

    I don't use it in pvp though.
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »

    The sad part is it is the guy who dont have overload on their bar who are the exploiters.

    You mean the ones who use the exploit and then don't even keep it on their bar ?

    I admit, I used the Magelight exploit. Most Sorcerers did.
    And I still use it in PvE. Because Sorcerer DPS is so horrible, using the exploit and gaining this additional Magicka, is the only thing keeping my DPS somewhat in line.

    I don't use it in pvp though.
    What?? Compared to whom?
    :trollin:
  • Dracane
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »

    The sad part is it is the guy who dont have overload on their bar who are the exploiters.

    You mean the ones who use the exploit and then don't even keep it on their bar ?

    I admit, I used the Magelight exploit. Most Sorcerers did.
    And I still use it in PvE. Because Sorcerer DPS is so horrible, using the exploit and gaining this additional Magicka, is the only thing keeping my DPS somewhat in line.

    I don't use it in pvp though.
    What?? Compared to whom?

    Compared to all other classes.
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  • Ezareth
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »

    The sad part is it is the guy who dont have overload on their bar who are the exploiters.

    You mean the ones who use the exploit and then don't even keep it on their bar ?

    I admit, I used the Magelight exploit. Most Sorcerers did.
    And I still use it in PvE. Because Sorcerer DPS is so horrible, using the exploit and gaining this additional Magicka, is the only thing keeping my DPS somewhat in line.

    I don't use it in pvp though.

    Yeah I don't care what people do in PvE, I'd probably use it too there if I cared enough about PvE. But when competing against other players using an exploit intentionally is dishonorable and shows poor character IMO.
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  • Dracane
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    Ezareth wrote: »

    Yeah I don't care what people do in PvE, I'd probably use it too there if I cared enough about PvE. But when competing against other players using an exploit intentionally is dishonorable and shows poor character IMO.

    Indeed, I agree.
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  • Cathexis
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    ANIMATION CANCELLING WORKING AS INTENDED.

    And Overloads third bar is intentional and has been a part of the game since day 1.

    I'm just sad you can't still charge out of overload. I used to drop a two hand charge into turn undead and cleave spam back on wabba when there were zergs of vamps.
    Edited by Cathexis on July 29, 2015 9:57PM
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  • Dracane
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    ANIMATION CANCELLING WORKING AS INTENDED.

    Nice. Did they finally confirm this ? :blush:
    Where did you read this ?
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  • Cathexis
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    ANIMATION CANCELLING WORKING AS INTENDED.

    Nice. Did they finally confirm this ? :blush:
    Where did you read this ?

    There was a post about it ages ago I'm sure someone can oblige you, I've gotta start bookmarking this stuff.
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    ANIMATION CANCELLING WORKING AS INTENDED.

    Nice. Did they finally confirm this ? :blush:
    Where did you read this ?

    There was a post about it ages ago I'm sure someone can oblige you, I've gotta start bookmarking this stuff.

    With Animation canceling, you mean animation canceling or light attack weaving ? Because I don't even know how to animation cancel, and I don't want to know. As long as they don't take light attack weaving away from us.
    Edited by Dracane on July 29, 2015 9:57PM
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  • Cinnamon_Spider
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    ANIMATION CANCELLING WORKING AS INTENDED.

    And Overloads third bar is intentional and has been a part of the game since day 1.
    The third bar is intended, but using a toggle while not on the bar with the toggle is not.
    It also isn't animation cancelling. It requires tricking the game to activate a toggle while no longer on the bar with the toggle.
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    ANIMATION CANCELLING WORKING AS INTENDED.

    Nice. Did they finally confirm this ? :blush:
    Where did you read this ?

    There was a post about it ages ago I'm sure someone can oblige you, I've gotta start bookmarking this stuff.

    With Animation canceling, you mean animation canceling or light attack weaving ? Because I don't even know how to animation cancel, and I don't want to know. As long as they don't take light attack weaving away from us.

    Light attack weaving = Animation Cancelling.

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  • Dracane
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    ANIMATION CANCELLING WORKING AS INTENDED.

    Nice. Did they finally confirm this ? :blush:
    Where did you read this ?

    There was a post about it ages ago I'm sure someone can oblige you, I've gotta start bookmarking this stuff.

    With Animation canceling, you mean animation canceling or light attack weaving ? Because I don't even know how to animation cancel, and I don't want to know. As long as they don't take light attack weaving away from us.

    Light attack weaving = Animation Cancelling.

    Isn't animation canceling, when you somehow block interrupt your attack ? I know how this looks like and many people do it, this is not light attack weaving. You are more experienced, I don't want to question you.

    But light attack weaving and animation canceling are 2 different things for me.
    Edited by Dracane on July 29, 2015 10:06PM
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  • Ezareth
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    Dracane wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    ANIMATION CANCELLING WORKING AS INTENDED.

    Nice. Did they finally confirm this ? :blush:
    Where did you read this ?

    There was a post about it ages ago I'm sure someone can oblige you, I've gotta start bookmarking this stuff.

    With Animation canceling, you mean animation canceling or light attack weaving ? Because I don't even know how to animation cancel, and I don't want to know. As long as they don't take light attack weaving away from us.

    Light attack weaving = Animation Cancelling.

    Isn't animation canceling, when you somehow block interrupt your attack ? I know how this looks like and many people do it, this is not light attack weaving. You are more experienced, I don't want to question you.

    But light attack weaving and animation canceling are 2 different things for me.

    If you spam your crushing shock key you'll cast 1 crushing shock every second (Ignoring latency issues).
    If you spam light attacks you can cast 1 light attack every second (separate GCD)

    With light attack weaving you can cast 1 crushing shock and 1 light attack every second because you're cancelling the light attack animation with the crushing shock and they have different cooldown timers. You can also cancel is with a dodge roll, bash, block, and a couple other things. Basically its a way to chain two separate actions with *separate* GCDs together.
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  • Cathexis
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    Animation cancelling can involve light attacks, heavy attacks, bash, skills, dodges, blocks, and skill bar swaps. Each has a priority level. Overload is a type of weapon switch.

    Which is why magelight and bound armor activation weapon swapping is working as intended.

    If the video above doesn't explain this well, there are more tutorials on animation cancelling available.

    Haha you guys are going to lose it when I show you how to weapon swap while swapping into overload...you don't even need overload on your second bar...

    Your brain will be like:

    exploding-brain.jpg

    Of course there are many overload secrets which I alone covet...mwahahahaAHAHAHAHaHA

    AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Edited by Cathexis on July 29, 2015 10:56PM
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  • Dymence
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    Dymence wrote: »
    Why are you guys making such a ruckus about a bug which is absolutely useless?

    Sure, you can toggle bound armor and inner light on overload bar and keep it when switched off, but as soon as you swap your bars it's lost.

    It might be a funny bug, but that's all it is. It's utterly useless in real time play.

    That's far from true. I have made videos and sent them to Brian wheeler about how to do it so they can fix it and even showed how you retain it AFTER you do it. Hell you can even unslot overload after doing it and you still keep the bonuses. Try again saying it is useless........my max magicka pool, from my video for brian, would love to have a word with you about how it isn't useless. The sad part is when you see people accidentally go into overload, which is when you lose the buffs and have to redo the exploit, quickly cancel and go in and cancel again to keep the buffs. It is apparent who uses it

    You misunderstood. I know how the bug functions. You can have bound aegis and inner light enabled without having it on your bar. The point of the matter is, that these buffs will turn themselves off as soon as you swap to your secondary weapon. Any competitive play requires you to swap bars a lot. Conclusion is, bug is useless.
    Laggus wrote: »
    Dymence wrote: »
    Why are you guys making such a ruckus about a bug which is absolutely useless?

    Sure, you can toggle bound armor and inner light on overload bar and keep it when switched off, but as soon as you swap your bars it's lost.

    It might be a funny bug, but that's all it is. It's utterly useless in real time play.

    So you don't think ZoS should fix this exploit?..interesting.

    Read above. Sure they should fix it, but the people here are making such a drama about something that only works in a test environment. Try exploiting the bug in a real raid situation for example, and your DPS will be far lower than anyone else because the bug is anything but practical.
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    The sad part is it is the guy who dont have overload on their bar who are the exploiters.

    You mean the ones who use the exploit and then don't even keep it on their bar ?

    I admit, I used the Magelight exploit. Most Sorcerers did.
    And I still use it in PvE. Because Sorcerer DPS is so horrible, using the exploit and gaining this additional Magicka, is the only thing keeping my DPS somewhat in line.

    I don't use it in pvp though.
    What?? Compared to whom?

    Compared to all other classes.

    XD
    Edited by Dymence on July 30, 2015 3:56PM
  • Etharian
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    bump... PLEASE ZOS fix THESE EXPLOITS!!
  • Garion
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    @Dymence

    The toggle does not reset by switching to your secondary weapon. If you exploit this 'properly' then it doesn't even matter if you have overload on your bar after you have done the toggle. You can only have one toggle active at a time though.
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    Garion wrote: »
    @Dymence

    The toggle does not reset by switching to your secondary weapon. If you exploit this 'properly' then it doesn't even matter if you have overload on your bar after you have done the toggle. You can only have one toggle active at a time though.

    Can you imagine the horror if you could have Magelight, Bound Armor ... and 2 Pets, all from the overload bar exploit? Just the sheer number of pets in Cyrodiil would bring the server down.
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  • Dymence
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    Garion wrote: »
    @Dymence

    The toggle does not reset by switching to your secondary weapon. If you exploit this 'properly' then it doesn't even matter if you have overload on your bar after you have done the toggle. You can only have one toggle active at a time though.

    Really now? If that's the case, then I take back what I said previously. It should get fixed ASAP. I managed to get the 'exploit' to work, but it dissapeared as soon as I swapped weapons.

    And to that topic, then I apologize for spreading misinformation.
    Edited by Dymence on July 30, 2015 4:48PM
  • Garion
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    Garion wrote: »
    @Dymence

    The toggle does not reset by switching to your secondary weapon. If you exploit this 'properly' then it doesn't even matter if you have overload on your bar after you have done the toggle. You can only have one toggle active at a time though.

    Can you imagine the horror if you could have Magelight, Bound Armor ... and 2 Pets, all from the overload bar exploit? Just the sheer number of pets in Cyrodiil would bring the server down.

    Would be pretty hilarious though!
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  • Cathexis
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    I need to know how this perma swap works.
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  • Morvul
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    the following is not intended as an endorsement of the exploits, but rather a little fun fact:

    On my Orc spell-caster sorc, I decided to test both the overload exploit (with mage light) and the double mundus exploit (with the mage stone):
    That gave me about 11% more max magicka, and 10% more crit chance.

    compare that double-exploit numbers to the 10% max magicka, 4% elemental damage and 12% magicka reg which a race-change to altmer would grant me - and the numbers are pretty much on par.

    conclusion: I could exploit my orc to cast like an altmer :sunglasses:

    PS: want to buy race change!!!
    Edited by Morvul on July 31, 2015 8:46AM
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