SorataArisugawa wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

I am just a bit undecided still wether to go vamp for mistform now. And use that additionally.
I would then use clouding swarm, but that means either use overload or the newly possible meteor + rune cage combo.
Streak is still a very good skill that I would not drop so easily.

Rune Cage + Soul Assault is even better, dirt cheap, hits like a truck and won't break your Rune Cage.

Did they change something with Rune Cage?

Its instant Cast now instead of 1.5 sec cast time, and Damage Over Time Effects won't break the Rune Cage but any other damage will. It will also go through Block so its the Sorc's version of Petrify, very nice skill now.

Etharian wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

The crux of this post is that there are better options to use over Bolt Escape, Bolt Escape is no longer the casters best choice for repositioning.

As for damage shields, its a forgone conclusion that Hardened Ward and others will most likely be re-adjusted (I'll be suprised if they are not) that makes the other options more attractive.

Im not saying Bolt Escape is bad, its not, i just can;t justifying using it over something else now because there are other skills and potions that do close to the same thing but cost far far less and in the case of Mist Form actually mitigate damage and prevent most CC without any cost prohibitive penalties associated with it. this makes sense to me from a math standpoint.

Ok then you admitted that is just your opinion then and your PERSONAL choice... just because you cant bolt escape across the map anymore does not mean its a bad ability....

Yes it is a re-positioning ability, and yes it is working how its supposed to work now without being exploited.

It was never being exploited...your confusing Healing Ward and other such stacks are what made people have trouble killing Sorc's not Bolt Escape.

Look on the PTS right now, Sorcs are STILL the class everyone is complaining about that they can't kill because....wait for it...Damage Shields.

So lets nerf Bolt Escape for the 7th time when it was never the root of the reason some Sorc's were hard to kill, but being able to stack a large damage shield over top of their Healing Ward guaranteed them a large burst burst heal.

The "Turret Style" of Sorc's standing inside Daedric Mines spamming Overload and Crushing Shock behind damage shields your damage is nerfed against will be more frustrating to stamina builds then it currently is on live.

The fact Stamina builds can't dodge roll spam as much anymore, and Nirnhoned is not there to help them, entering those mines will be a death sentence and far more of thise Power Overload entropy boosted Light Attack Crits will be hitting peoples faces far more often, the QQ over this will be epic. (I don't find the Turret style appealing at all but each to their own) Did i mention you will be trying to get through stacked shields while he/she is doing this? Protected by an AOE area denail that roots you and heals him everytime a mine goes off?

I never exploited Bolt Escape to Bolt all the way across the map.....and citing Youtube videos where Sorcs are using multiple mundas stone and overload bar exploits to give them buffs they shouldn't be able to have is not a fair or reasonable assessment of the Sorc class as a whole.

I challenge your Elusive Mist with my Elusive Mist!

Roselle wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

I came to the same conclusion a the OP, and I've been practicing with Elusive Mist like crazy, both on Live and the PTS. The key, in my opinion, to getting the best results out of Mist is to learn how to control the length of the effect. I've experimenting with using various means to cut short a Mist channel, and the best way (so far) seems to be quickly tapping escape. This allows you to dodge an incoming hit of heavy damage, while not gimping your regen significantly.

Why not just weapon swap? If it's only on one bar, then it cancels. Though I have Devouring Swarm on my other bar for the regen passive change...

I tried weapon swapping for a while. The problem is that you have to make an unpleasant choice: either have the same exact skills on both bars or get used to being confused about what bar you are on in the heat of battle. BTW, weapon swapping will cancel Mist Form even if it is on both bars.

I really wish @ZOS would make a dedicated key bind for "cancel attack" that had no cost or side effects.

The real problem with the bolt / dodge changes is the timer until you cast it again. We have no way of monitoring this on console and its just poor design in general. Nobody wants to sit there and go, hmm should I cast bolt now or wait another 1 second to be extra safe I dont use mana.. so bad. The resource cost should grow until 4-5 seconds then reset regardless of when the last ability was cast.

From my testing Mistform will cancel on weapon swap regardless of wether you slotted it on both bars.

tist wrote: »

The real problem with the bolt / dodge changes is the timer until you cast it again. We have no way of monitoring this on console and its just poor design in general. Nobody wants to sit there and go, hmm should I cast bolt now or wait another 1 second to be extra safe I dont use mana.. so bad. The resource cost should grow until 4-5 seconds then reset regardless of when the last ability was cast.

There is a visual cue actually... nothing else on PC either

So Bolt ESCAPE is just an escape now and not Bolt travel, like I seen sorcs use it some of the time,( me included) maybe for once it is working as intended, but I understand it has been in the game for along time and this is a hard change to swallow, but I still seem to Bolt away just fine, but going from Sej to Alessia, have to use my mount now how uncivilized..LOL

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Put it anyway you want. Nobody else got something that ports 10 meters away stunning anyone in your path. Nobody is that mobile.

Plus the cost debuff lasts only 4 secs? You can still sbield stack for ages until you can port away.

Most sorcs were too much used to this "break outta jail" card because it was spammable as hell.

Best comparison: in league of legend you can blink away once every 2-3 mins and its still op as hell.

No. That's like the worst comparison one could come up with. Something available to all in a game where micro movement matters so much that teleports you through objects... vs a spell obtainable to a single class in a game like ESO, where melee fighters have spammable gap closers with a wider range than this ability can teleport you, and it does not work teleport through any objects.