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Console: Should text chat be implemented with the IC patch?

  • Mighty_oakk
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    Yes
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    The amusing thing is even with the poll being mixed in with IC patch it's still this heavily pro text chat.

    If you removed the IC and just said at some point it would even be higher yes as some vote no afraid it would delay the IC patch.

    I'm also sure the two or three who think they speak for the "silent majority" and have proclaimed themselves arbiters of everything the console crowd wants have made excuses somewhere in this thread.

    Yeah probably shouldn't of used the IC thing since it's abit unrealistic but 80% or 90% no real difference in the eyes of a normal business.
  • AaronLannister
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    Yes
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    The amusing thing is even with the poll being mixed in with IC patch it's still this heavily pro text chat.

    If you removed the IC and just said at some point it would even be higher yes as some vote no afraid it would delay the IC patch.

    I'm also sure the two or three who think they speak for the "silent majority" and have proclaimed themselves arbiters of everything the console crowd wants have made excuses somewhere in this thread.

    Yeah probably shouldn't of used the IC thing since it's abit unrealistic but 80% or 90% no real difference in the eyes of a normal business.

    agreed
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    No
    Console text chat should only be implemented if and only if this comes in a way that is 100% optional.

    100% optional means that as someone not interested, pin settings I should have a text chat on/off option that allows my game to look exactly like it does right now.


    The other issue is that I ask if implemented it works just like voice chat.
    Meaning no zone text chat but proximity text chat, group chat and guild chat
    No battle chat for Cyrodil.

    The fog of war and current design seems to limit and deter spamming, gold spammers, rude and bullying or zone arguments and ppl trolling or just online to grief others.

    Just my point of view.
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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  • bareheiny
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    Yes
    The other issue is that I ask if implemented it works just like voice chat.
    Meaning no zone text chat but proximity text chat, group chat and guild chat
    No battle chat for Cyrodil.
    Just my two cents (because I really can't help myself...I have poor impulse control :( )....these sort of restrictions would essentially neuter text chat.

    edit: I have no intention to turn this into a version of the thread that got locked. I've added my cents (adjusted for inflation)....and that (as they say) is that.
    Edited by bareheiny on July 29, 2015 1:31AM
  • AaronLannister
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    Yes
    Console text chat should only be implemented if and only if this comes in a way that is 100% optional.
    nobody has ever argued this
    100% optional means that as someone not interested, pin settings I should have a text chat on/off option that allows my game to look exactly like it does right now.
    Of course
    The other issue is that I ask if implemented it works just like voice chat.
    Meaning no zone text chat but proximity text chat, group chat and guild chat
    No battle chat for Cyrodil.
    You can have both really in Text Chat soooo. And no it shouldn't work just like Voice Chat that's a terrible idea for many reasons.
    The fog of war and current design seems to limit and deter spamming, gold spammers, rude and bullying or zone arguments and ppl trolling or just online to grief others.

    Just my point of view.

    moderators are there for a reason.
    Edited by AaronLannister on July 29, 2015 1:28AM
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    No
    Console text chat should only be implemented if and only if this comes in a way that is 100% optional.
    nobody has ever argued this
    100% optional means that as someone not interested, pin settings I should have a text chat on/off option that allows my game to look exactly like it does right now.
    Of course
    The other issue is that I ask if implemented it works just like voice chat.
    Meaning no zone text chat but proximity text chat, group chat and guild chat
    No battle chat for Cyrodil.
    You can have both really in Text Chat soooo. And no it shouldn't work just like Voice Chat that's a terrible idea for many reasons.
    The fog of war and current design seems to limit and deter spamming, gold spammers, rude and bullying or zone arguments and ppl trolling or just online to grief others.

    Just my point of view.

    moderators are there for a reason.


    Hey...I ask that you don't continue the comments that came in the other thread that is now closed.

    My comment was intended for feedback vs it being argued.
    I believe many who are apart of this community are aware that I'm not for the feature.

    Please don't start the back n forth.
    If you have feedback or suggestions let's do that and hopefully prevent this from being locked as well.

    Thanks in advance
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • AaronLannister
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    Yes
    Hey...I ask that you don't continue the comments that came in the other thread that is now closed.
    I never did. You're mentioning it for some reason?
    My comment was intended for feedback vs it being argued.
    I believe many who are apart of this community are aware that I'm not for the feature.
    It clearly wasn't.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    No
    Hey...I ask that you don't continue the comments that came in the other thread that is now closed.
    I never did. You're mentioning it for some reason?
    My comment was intended for feedback vs it being argued.
    I believe many who are apart of this community are aware that I'm not for the feature.
    It clearly wasn't.

    SMH...
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • AaronLannister
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    Yes
    Hey...I ask that you don't continue the comments that came in the other thread that is now closed.
    I never did. You're mentioning it for some reason?
    My comment was intended for feedback vs it being argued.
    I believe many who are apart of this community are aware that I'm not for the feature.
    It clearly wasn't.

    SMH...

    Ignorance truly is bliss.
    Edited by AaronLannister on July 29, 2015 1:46AM
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  • markt84
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    No
    If it slows down the development of anything else in the game, then no. If two interns can do this, then fine
  • fallensbane_ESO
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    Yes
    markt84 wrote: »
    If it slows down the development of anything else in the game, then no. If two interns can do this, then fine

    It would hardly slowdown much of anything. Was accessible in beta irc.
  • Caspur
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    No
    No. Because I don't want my beautiful screen clogged up with a chat box that will be spammed by gold sellers and constant nonsense. Keep the typing where it belongs, on the PC.
    A place where everything and nothing exists, this is my playground.
  • Zazaaji
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    Yes
    My opinion is yes. I would love text chat on consoles ASAP.

    Also to be clear: As someone that was in the console beta for the whopping four days it lasted: the console beta did NOT have any form of text chat, it was voice only. I'm not sure why so many people are spreading that false info recently.
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    Edited by Zazaaji on July 29, 2015 5:31AM
    English is not my first language, Finnish is.
    Please don't heap on me for grammar problems.
  • Mighty_oakk
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    Yes
    Zazaaji wrote: »
    My opinion is yes. I would love text chat on consoles ASAP.

    Also to be clear: As someone that was in the console beta for the whopping four days it lasted: the console beta did NOT have any form of text chat, it was voice only. I'm not sure why so many people are spreading that false info recently.
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    From what I gather it wa used through developement but dropped just prior to beta. People seem to confuse the two
  • Zazaaji
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    Yes
    Zazaaji wrote: »
    My opinion is yes. I would love text chat on consoles ASAP.

    Also to be clear: As someone that was in the console beta for the whopping four days it lasted: the console beta did NOT have any form of text chat, it was voice only. I'm not sure why so many people are spreading that false info recently.
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    From what I gather it wa used through developement but dropped just prior to beta. People seem to confuse the two

    During the Console demonstration earlier this year, there was a VERY noticable hidden text chatbox thing when they showed the PS4 version, meaning it clearly was there at that time. Sometime between that demonstration and the May console beta though, it was removed.

    This was well known for a long time, but within the last week or so someone started a rumor that it was fully in the console beta. That has spread a lot unfortunately, and is just an out right lie.

    EDIT: youtu.be/QAnThKbSjNY- That is the demonstration that clearly shows a hidden chat text box on PS4 in the lower left corner.
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    Edited by Zazaaji on July 29, 2015 5:47AM
    English is not my first language, Finnish is.
    Please don't heap on me for grammar problems.
  • VoidBlue
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    Yes
    Zazaaji wrote: »
    Zazaaji wrote: »
    My opinion is yes. I would love text chat on consoles ASAP.

    Also to be clear: As someone that was in the console beta for the whopping four days it lasted: the console beta did NOT have any form of text chat, it was voice only. I'm not sure why so many people are spreading that false info recently.
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    From what I gather it wa used through developement but dropped just prior to beta. People seem to confuse the two

    During the Console demonstration earlier this year, there was a VERY noticable hidden text chatbox thing when they showed the PS4 version, meaning it clearly was there at that time. Sometime between that demonstration and the May console beta though, it was removed.

    This was well known for a long time, but within the last week or so someone started a rumor that it was fully in the console beta. That has spread a lot unfortunately, and is just an out right lie.

    EDIT: youtu.be/QAnThKbSjNY- That is the demonstration that clearly shows a hidden chat text box on PS4 in the lower left corner.
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    Took me a while to see it but yea I see the semi transparent box off on the left of the screen looks minimized in a amazing way.
  • J2JMC
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    Zazaaji wrote: »
    Zazaaji wrote: »
    My opinion is yes. I would love text chat on consoles ASAP.

    Also to be clear: As someone that was in the console beta for the whopping four days it lasted: the console beta did NOT have any form of text chat, it was voice only. I'm not sure why so many people are spreading that false info recently.
    -

    From what I gather it wa used through developement but dropped just prior to beta. People seem to confuse the two

    During the Console demonstration earlier this year, there was a VERY noticable hidden text chatbox thing when they showed the PS4 version, meaning it clearly was there at that time. Sometime between that demonstration and the May console beta though, it was removed.

    This was well known for a long time, but within the last week or so someone started a rumor that it was fully in the console beta. That has spread a lot unfortunately, and is just an out right lie.

    EDIT: youtu.be/QAnThKbSjNY- That is the demonstration that clearly shows a hidden chat text box on PS4 in the lower left corner.
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    Skipped to a minute in. These people actually believe that their controller setup is optimal for gameplay. I'm actually done. I was playing while reading the forums. That comment made me log out. Thanks for letting me open the map while I'm moving. Or letting me press the right d pad to switch between quests. Real freaking useful.
    Edited by J2JMC on July 29, 2015 6:32AM
    Knee Jerk, L2P, Obtuse, Casual, Entitled, All The Best, unnecessary mention of CoD

    Battle leveling for pve content defeats the idea of progression. Remove CP

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  • Drake_Fury
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    No
    Don't get me wrong here. I want text chat more than anything for this game. But it's clearly not going to be ready for IC release, even if they start working on it now.

    Text chat is a very important feature to mmos and should be there, but we can't put a deadline on something that they're not even promising yet. IC is probably aleready ready. They're tweaking some stuff and repairing bugs, but adding more content barely more than a month before release is impossible.

    Adding it to IC would mean havng to delay IC, and while I wouldn't care because I'm no fan of PvP, I can see why a lot of PvPers would be angry.

    So yes to chat text, but no to forcing it to come with IC.
    Edited by Drake_Fury on July 29, 2015 6:40AM
  • Drake_Fury
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    No
    PwningCow wrote: »

    Everyone does own a mic, you get it with a ps4.

    So, another one who thinks that since they gave a cheap crap mic with the PS4, it means that PS4 is meant to be played with a mic...

    Do you have any idea why they put that crap in? Exactly so you try mic conversation, like it, and one day realise that your mic is complete crap and you go buy a Playstation gold at 100$...
  • Drake_Fury
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    No


    INCOMING GOLD/ITEM SELLER SPAMMING BOTS.

    /blist "entergoldsellernamehere"

    or whatever the command if it's /ignore or /mute... doesn't matter, chat filters and blacklists/ignore lists exist for a reason in every single mmorpg i've ever played...
  • theforgottenking1779
    Yes
    You guys knew there was no text chat. You still bought the game instead of not buying it and letting ZOS know why.
    You guys had a chance to be heard, but bought into the soon™.

    YES you need it. It should be implemented asap. Although, not at this time as it would push back an already year late expansion even further. So, no. Not right now. Sorry but soon™ actually applies in this case. God, I feel dirty for saying that.

    Yeah and eso will be dead by that time to on console at least
    Edited by theforgottenking1779 on July 29, 2015 7:42AM
  • nbksaske
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    how would text chat work with the ps4? its a bit of a nightmare when your in the middle of something and have to stop to "send a messege", quick chat bubble maybe? and apart from my friends and me, the majority of people who have mics, cough, grunt, or talk about random stuff eg; talking about a bloody washing machine! lol i find myself leaving my mic out if im playing alone, as the voice chat areas can sometimes be.....annoying. lol
  • Drake_Fury
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    No
    nbksaske wrote: »
    how would text chat work with the ps4? its a bit of a nightmare when your in the middle of something and have to stop to "send a messege", quick chat bubble maybe? and apart from my friends and me, the majority of people who have mics, cough, grunt, or talk about random stuff eg; talking about a bloody washing machine! lol i find myself leaving my mic out if im playing alone, as the voice chat areas can sometimes be.....annoying. lol

    The same way it works with DCUO, FFXIV on PS4 and the same way as it worked for FFXI on PS2 and Xbox360. Play with your gamepad and type with your keyboard. Again, text chat is not something you do along group members in the middle of fighting, that is precisely what voice chat is made for. Text is good between combats, when you want to make sure everyone understands strategies, or to see what's happening in your guild while you're in group, or to search for a group, or to buy/sell, or to do any communication if you're deaf. Being able to catch up on a conversation after a drink break. There is so many situations for which text is better than voice.

    Like I was saying to someone in PM, there is a phrase in french that we use a lot, roughly translated it goes like this:

    Spoken words fly away. Written words are here to stay.
    Edited by Drake_Fury on July 29, 2015 7:56AM
  • Riga_Mortis
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    Yes
    100% needs to be in this game ASAP.

    Other games such as DCUO and DEFIANCE worked very well with text chat for zone/guild/area, really don't understand how this wasn't a launch feature for consoles.
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  • fallensbane_ESO
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    Yes
    Caspur wrote: »
    No. Because I don't want my beautiful screen clogged up with a chat box that will be spammed by gold sellers and constant nonsense. Keep the typing where it belongs, on the PC.

    So turn it off. I don't want to have to listen to immature players shouting profane/sexist/bigot terminology every time I zone to a wayshrine in a major city. Guess what I do, I turn off voice chat. AMAZING what you can do with the power of the options. Options that are available on the PC and would obviously be available on the console version.

    /SMH
  • Umad_BrO
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    Yes
    I voted yes, but after thinking about it I remembered how I got killed by a wasp just going in my inventory. I can't imagine trying to type in a conversation in game, it happens to me on another game I play and well, it makes me mad.
    Get a mic, turn it down when you don't need it mate.
    What's the matter? Did somebody steal your sweet roll?
  • syko809
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    No
    sirhctpac wrote: »
    Forgive me if there's one of these buried somewhere.

    We consolers simply require this, ZOS. Are you aware that PvP group organizers have devolved their recruitment strategy to repeating, "stand by me for an invite" at objectives? Are you aware that people queue for dungeon groups never intending to communicate with the group AT ALL? The current system is game breaking.
    I'm asking all of you to make this poll a clear, overwhelming demand for immediate implementation of text chat. We require this and we WILL NOT get it without concerted action on this forum. Thank you in advance

    What ya don't understand is the time it takes for ps4 keyboard to come up is way to long idk about Xbox one but by the time you type what you need to say the whole situation is already changing if not changed already
  • Geemarc
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    Yes
    Console needs text chat and a fix to group finder. Its that simple.

    I've leveled two characters to Vet 14 on the PS4 now and finding groups to do dungeons is near impossible.

    The only options are to use a broken group finder that takes ages and when it finally puts you in a group its not a full party or standing around at the wayshrine in Craglorn etc trying to find people. Joining a guild provides the same issues, unless you are part of core of people you know, you still need to jump between comms channels trying to find people who probably aren't even listening.

    A lot of people cant even use a microphone have the game muted or are in a PSN voice chat and therefore cant hear you speaking or reply. How is a small text box more immersion breaking than listening to someone who doesn't have a mute button on their microphone and is therefore transmitting everything that is happening around them whether that be music, arguments, in game noise from speakers etc.

    Add text chat and fix group finder ASAP. It should be their top priority.
  • Spacepig
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    Yes
    I would really like it to be added. This is a feature on every console mmo since Everquest and FFXI on ps2. So the argument that its on console so that's why it's not there is just ignorant . Keyboard worked great back then. I do like the voice chat for groups but I mainly keep it turned of due to the poor quality of others and the constant non game related noises
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