I'll start:
Armor pen bug with maces

%mitigation stacking.

Also: Receiving the inner light/bound aegis benefits without having to have them on your bar.

Jules wrote: »

Also: Receiving the inner light/bound aegis benefits without having to have them on your bar.

@Jules Stop hating on sorcs

SLy_Kyti wrote: »

This is only #6930 of Bug compilation threads I've seen since PC launch.
Maybe you can dig the others from the archives, I'm sure they're still relevant.

I know there have been others, but I wanted to make a more recent one given all of the recent complaints. Feel free to link the other threads if you want to add to the conversation.

SLy_Kyti wrote: »

BigTone wrote: »

SLy_Kyti wrote: »

This is only #6930 of Bug compilation threads I've seen since PC launch.
Maybe you can dig the others from the archives, I'm sure they're still relevant.

I know there have been others, but I wanted to make a more recent one given all of the recent complaints. Feel free to link the other threads if you want to add to the conversation.

You might want to edit your thread title (edit is up in middle of page by Star next to your title) as well. Had no idea until I read your post that it was for exterminating game bugs...actually my first thought was you wanted a Kill on Sight List for Cyrodiil lol.

Done

werepirism

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

BigTone wrote: »

This thread is fine. But that picture is not becoming of a Covenant leader.

Very true. I must have skipped my Greek yogurt infused protein shake this morning. Send one my way STAT!

Gonna put a lot of exploit websites out of business

I have a fun one that I reported a while ago. This bug was already patched, but I will give you the patch notes then show you what the actual bug was.

From: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/191859/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-0-13#latest

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote:

Last Stand: Fixed an issue where this passive was not correctly granting Ultimate when triggered.

What was really happening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJiijvVZBig

BigTone wrote: »

I'll start:
Armor pen bug with maces

Can anyone explain the math on this? I'm using maces (and sharpened is the only worthwhile option for melee) because they do more damage than swords via penetration but is this an exploit or a bug?

To me the definition of a is bug abusing a flawed game mechanic/bug in an unintended way to gain an advantage. Putting your seige in caltrops to gain immunity to counter siege back when it was bugged is a clear example of an exploit to me. There was no reason in the game to drop caltrops around your seige in order to do this. It was very prevalent and so many people did it that it was just considered normal but I know many people who quit the game over that.

Nirnhoned, Maces, Eclipse bugs with Dawnbreaker/talons (barring purposefully trying to get exclipsed by guards to receive the benefit) and Dawnbreaker Damage and Dot hititng at the same time are bugs.

Using a combination of abilities to be able to run Inner light or a second mundus zone or Vampirism/Werewolf at the same time etc are exploits. These things usually involve a player taking a very specific course of action to duplicate the bug in order to benefit from it.

Back in the day Power Overload light attacks could go through walls if you had the player tab-targetted. I always tab target players in order to attack them but since Power Overload can always be fired I had no way to determine whether I was normally firing at a target or taking advantage of a bug so I instituted a rule that I would only fire on players that I could see while they were tab targeted. Now I know of a few sorcs that would happily fire on a player through a wall long after they ran into a tower (Any projectile once fired at a target will always hit that target unless they leave the zone or dodge roll before it hits) and that is a clear exploit to me.

I think we need to agree upon the distinction between exploits and bugs because I wont purposefully abuse a mechanic for benefit but I also wont refuse to use an ability for its intended purpose just because it is bugged unless it is some gamebreaking insta-gib bug or something.

Lava_Croft wrote: »

The problem with @Ezareth's definitions of bugs and exploits is that they come in trouble when meeting reality. While for example Dawnbreaker's DoT hitting instantly can be considered a bug, the way people all start using the ability just for this is what constitutes exploiting. The same happened in the past with for example Nirnhoned weapons and happens now with for example Sharpened Maces.

Yeah it is a difficult thing but what are you going to do?

Take the Sharpened Nirnhoned Staves for example. On Paper it was the best weapon trait for magicka users even without the bug attached to it. Should users stop using a given ability/trait/set etc. because it happens to be bugged? If there were a way to "Unbug" my Nirnhoned stave I assure you I would have done so. The same would be true of my maces. When you run the math, Maces *should* be better than swords so why not use them?

Dawnbreaker may be a little different but I think even without the DoT instant it is still easily the best direct damage ult out there because it can only be countered by block and it's instant cast ult-level damage unlike any other non-NB ult. (Personally I've never used Dawnbreaker in PvP and dont see that changing for the same reason I don't use soul assault or meteor....just seems cheesy to me).

1. Can`t move-can`t turn bug. Coused mostly by sorc and dk after they use stun and slow effect in short time (I can be wrong - but most time when I get this bug it coused such way). Fix - if you go to Crown stor-horse-rotate (found solution on this forum). Fix working most time. But few times I get this bug and it can`t be fixed. Need relog to 100% fix it.
2. Weapon swap lock/ability use lock. Most time get it after death. But few times get in middle battle. As I know this bug coused by some macroses - couse game allow do many skills in a second, but can`t quick respond to who was attacked such way.
3. 0 fall damage to sorc. Normally sorc get fall damage normally after TP and fall from high ground, but few times I see they get 0 fall damage. As example - I follow sorc - it use blink from mount - I follow him to finish whith rd (I lost 9/10 hp), but after he fall his hp not even zipped on a moment to lost hp. I lost. I ask him after - why he not get fall damage - he say that it be surprise for him. He think it be suicide jump). I get this bug by myself 1 times for whole time. Falling from very high rock and get 0 fall damage (it not even count in CLS).
4. 3-9 mundus stone in same time. Every time I ask people that I see whith this bug - they not answer to me and add to ignore). Even if they from my pvp side. I think it good known exploit for some groups of players.
5. stun in mist form. Normally mist form have immune to control effect (stun, fear and so on). You can aoe root, but it break if you dodge im mist form. But if you get tab-targeting - you be gap-closing (and get 1 second stun - you stop moving, but it not slow or root), you can be slowed (channel ulta from soul), you get some hits bypass 75% resist (I get 15k damage in mist form from 1 hit. It mean it 1/4 of whole damge. So 15 x 4 - 60k one hit?). Today I get full stun in whole mist form time (4 second). I have full stamina and can`t move, I try dodge - it not worked - I just stand on 1 place and be damaged by zerg. And only 1 charge on me - so it can`t be 1s+ stun stop). As sum - Tab-targeting mist form ignore controll immunity and ignore damage reduction.

I found new bug. Catrops insta slow. Not fully insta. But when you leave area of this skill - you continue slow moving. And it have little add. If someone slow you another skill after you leave - you start moving whith 80-90% penalty. I get this only 3 times. And 2 times I only be damaged by this skill only. So I 100% be sure about this bug.
And remember other 2 old bugs -
1. Instacombat. Some skills (self buffs) even if no enemy around block your ability leave "in combat" state. For loooong time. My record 20 minutes in friendly keep whith no enemy around.
2. Can`t go to hide for long time. It very simple - you can`t go to hide (all condition succed to work - no damage, no enemy in stealth detection radius). As example - I cast self buf (not I attack enemy, not enemy attack me) from hide and lost status. And can`t enter to it again. I stand in closed building where no enemy (magelight morph for checking all territory). And I wait. 3 minutes. 5 minuites, 10 minutes. And hide not working. Ths occured very often. I know about can`t hide cooldawn. But not 10 minutes afk!

• Radiant Magelight ability reduces the magicka pool by 5% but not max magicka itself
• CP modifiers have no effect on tooltip values (only tested with elemental expert and thermatauge)