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✭✭hammayolettuce wrote: »
You forgot about the part where the half of them got banned from forums for trolling.
forum bans were definitely the underlying issue as to why NM disbanded
Not as to why they disbanded but as to why they lost credibility just like when some of Alacrity members decided it was a good thing to use exploits to capture scrolls behind the gate to try to prove something to ZOS.
Did you really just claim people getting forum bans made people lose their credibility? Really?
No he claimed they lost credibility when they used exploits to capture scrolls.
I know a lost a lot of respect for AOE for participating in that garbage. There is nothing that justifies that kind of play, nothing. People can try to downplay it or whatever but exploits have riddled this game since day one and I know quite a few people who have quit playing it over people using them.
Did you read his followup post? He literally said what I quoted him saying.hammayolettuce wrote: »
You forgot about the part where the half of them got banned from forums for trolling.
forum bans were definitely the underlying issue as to why NM disbanded
Not as to why they disbanded but as to why they lost credibility just like when some of Alacrity members decided it was a good thing to use exploits to capture scrolls behind the gate to try to prove something to ZOS.
Did you really just claim people getting forum bans made people lose their credibility? Really?
No he claimed they lost credibility when they used exploits to capture scrolls.
I know a lost a lot of respect for AOE for participating in that garbage. There is nothing that justifies that kind of play, nothing. People can try to downplay it or whatever but exploits have riddled this game since day one and I know quite a few people who have quit playing it over people using them.
Did you read his followup post? He literally said what I quoted him saying.
Yeah. Forum bans are a way to gain major props in this community. I read that as they lost credibility for exploiting like Alacrity myself and would agree with that. Of course I didn't really know Alacrity was doing it too until this thread but I stayed out of all of those Scroll exploiting threads.
The exploits frozn is talking about is him being a hypocrite at best, we did what DKs were doing to keeps and every clown in this forum have done in one way or another. Hypocrites abound, but feel free to agree with frozn if you want on this, its your choice. My choice is to point out the hypocrisy and how stupid it is to somehow say jumping into a keep is different from jumping over a wall based on purpose.... that is horseshit. We proved it could be done and literally told ZOS employees the first time we did it how we did it in the next meeting we had with them. It took them months to fix it because their original solution was just to make a guard hit for 10k which was NOT a fix.
And since apparently everyones credibility is being put on trial here, I didn't nor even could I have jumped over the wall as a templar.
Hypocrite for what? I admitted I used leap to jump on top of walls to fight people like alot of other people. I don't think that change alot the course of the campaign to try to fight a couple players on top of a wall. It would be different if I would be trying to flip the flags or to get a scroll, which I haven't done. It is also much different to jump on the other side of an enemy scroll gate while the gate is closed and to capture a scroll and run it to the other side of the said gate with the objective to get that faction's scroll population out of your last faction's emperor keep to save it when Zenimax a.k.a Brian Wheeler mentioned several times in forums that it is strictly forbidden to get on the other side of an enemy scroll gate when the gate is closed.
The fact you draw the line on the "intent" of the exploit in what makes something the exploit instead of the actual usage of the exploit boggles my freaking mind.... intent doesn't make something an exploit or not an exploit, you don't get to somehow argue jumping a wall here is not an exploit, but jumping a wall there is..... and it only is because the intent on jumping it is different that is the most cognitive dissonance BS I have ever seen.
I mean... hey we jumped the scroll gates to eventually kill people, we rarely if ever actually capped it, we'd run it somewhere to farm/kill people... so by your logic all we did was really the same thing you did.... and krim already addressed your other claim.
I have no idea what you just said. What I know is people from said guild jumped on the other side of the scroll gate to capture scrolls and to bring it on the other side of the gate to bring attention on them and help defend their own keeps in the meantime which was forbidden by ZOS, end of story.Edited by frozywozy on July 18, 2015 2:12AMFrozn - Stamdk - AR50
Frosted - Magplar - AR50
Frodn - Magden - AR50
Warmed - Magblade - AR50
Mmfrozy - Magsorc - AR44
Necrozn - Magcro - AR32
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“Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor Roosevelt- Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
- Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
- Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
- Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
- Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
- Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
- Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
- Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
- Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
- Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
- Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
- Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
- Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
- Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
- Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
- Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
- Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
- Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
- Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
- Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
- Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
- Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
- Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
- Introduce dynamic population
- Lower population cap by 20%
- Add Snare Immunity potions
- Bring resurrection sickness
- Fix character desync
- Fix cc breaking bug
- Fix gap closer bug
- Fix health desync
- Fix combat bug
- Fix streak bug
- Fix server lag
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krim✭✭✭✭✭hammayolettuce wrote: »
You forgot about the part where the half of them got banned from forums for trolling.
forum bans were definitely the underlying issue as to why NM disbanded
Not as to why they disbanded but as to why they lost credibility just like when some of Alacrity members decided it was a good thing to use exploits to capture scrolls behind the gate to try to prove something to ZOS.
Did you really just claim people getting forum bans made people lose their credibility? Really?
No he claimed they lost credibility when they used exploits to capture scrolls.
I know a lost a lot of respect for AOE for participating in that garbage. There is nothing that justifies that kind of play, nothing. People can try to downplay it or whatever but exploits have riddled this game since day one and I know quite a few people who have quit playing it over people using them.
Did you read his followup post? He literally said what I quoted him saying.hammayolettuce wrote: »
You forgot about the part where the half of them got banned from forums for trolling.
forum bans were definitely the underlying issue as to why NM disbanded
Not as to why they disbanded but as to why they lost credibility just like when some of Alacrity members decided it was a good thing to use exploits to capture scrolls behind the gate to try to prove something to ZOS.
Did you really just claim people getting forum bans made people lose their credibility? Really?
No he claimed they lost credibility when they used exploits to capture scrolls.
I know a lost a lot of respect for AOE for participating in that garbage. There is nothing that justifies that kind of play, nothing. People can try to downplay it or whatever but exploits have riddled this game since day one and I know quite a few people who have quit playing it over people using them.
Did you read his followup post? He literally said what I quoted him saying.
Yeah. Forum bans are a way to gain major props in this community. I read that as they lost credibility for exploiting like Alacrity myself and would agree with that. Of course I didn't really know Alacrity was doing it too until this thread but I stayed out of all of those Scroll exploiting threads.
The exploits frozn is talking about is him being a hypocrite at best, we did what DKs were doing to keeps and every clown in this forum have done in one way or another. Hypocrites abound, but feel free to agree with frozn if you want on this, its your choice. My choice is to point out the hypocrisy and how stupid it is to somehow say jumping into a keep is different from jumping over a wall based on purpose.... that is horseshit. We proved it could be done and literally told ZOS employees the first time we did it how we did it in the next meeting we had with them. It took them months to fix it because their original solution was just to make a guard hit for 10k which was NOT a fix.
And since apparently everyones credibility is being put on trial here, I didn't nor even could I have jumped over the wall as a templar.
Hypocrite for what? I admitted I used leap to jump on top of walls to fight people like alot of other people. I don't think that change alot the course of the campaign to try to fight a couple players on top of a wall. It would be different if I would be trying to flip the flags or to get a scroll, which I haven't done. It is also much different to jump on the other side of an enemy scroll gate while the gate is closed and to capture a scroll and run it to the other side of the said gate with the objective to get that faction's scroll population out of your last faction's emperor keep to save it when Zenimax a.k.a Brian Wheeler mentioned several times in forums that it is strictly forbidden to get on the other side of an enemy scroll gate when the gate is closed.
The fact you draw the line on the "intent" of the exploit in what makes something the exploit instead of the actual usage of the exploit boggles my freaking mind.... intent doesn't make something an exploit or not an exploit, you don't get to somehow argue jumping a wall here is not an exploit, but jumping a wall there is..... and it only is because the intent on jumping it is different that is the most cognitive dissonance BS I have ever seen.
I mean... hey we jumped the scroll gates to eventually kill people, we rarely if ever actually capped it, we'd run it somewhere to farm/kill people... so by your logic all we did was really the same thing you did.... and krim already addressed your other claim.
I have no idea what you just said. What I know is people from said guild jumped on the other side of the scroll gate to capture scrolls and to bring it on the other side of the gate to bring attention on them and help defend their own keeps in the meantime which was forbidden by ZOS, end of story.
Again this is not true. I dont know where you get this idea from but if our faction was down to one emp keep. I can guarantee we were there defending it and not trying to create a diversion by going through a gate and taking a scroll. Alacrity never cared for campaign scores, scrolls etc. We were constantly looking for good fights and thats all we cared about. 99% of the time that we grabbed scrolls was to take it to a house/tower/or cold corn. Its a good way to put a target on your group and thats what we liked. If everyone wants to get all upset on how we acquired the scroll fine, but its not like we were walking around with god mode hack. We died just as easy or hard as everyone else.0 -
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Demonically_Angelic wrote: »Big tone and Siddy
I admit, I only read the first 3 pages... I was too lazy to read more so this may be outta context by now but hey ***....
first 3 posts dammit, 3 posts! Not 3 pages.
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Mako1132✭✭✭✭✭hammayolettuce wrote: »
You forgot about the part where the half of them got banned from forums for trolling.
forum bans were definitely the underlying issue as to why NM disbanded
Not as to why they disbanded but as to why they lost credibility just like when some of Alacrity members decided it was a good thing to use exploits to capture scrolls behind the gate to try to prove something to ZOS.
Did you really just claim people getting forum bans made people lose their credibility? Really?
No he claimed they lost credibility when they used exploits to capture scrolls.
I know a lost a lot of respect for AOE for participating in that garbage. There is nothing that justifies that kind of play, nothing. People can try to downplay it or whatever but exploits have riddled this game since day one and I know quite a few people who have quit playing it over people using them.
Did you read his followup post? He literally said what I quoted him saying.hammayolettuce wrote: »
You forgot about the part where the half of them got banned from forums for trolling.
forum bans were definitely the underlying issue as to why NM disbanded
Not as to why they disbanded but as to why they lost credibility just like when some of Alacrity members decided it was a good thing to use exploits to capture scrolls behind the gate to try to prove something to ZOS.
Did you really just claim people getting forum bans made people lose their credibility? Really?
No he claimed they lost credibility when they used exploits to capture scrolls.
I know a lost a lot of respect for AOE for participating in that garbage. There is nothing that justifies that kind of play, nothing. People can try to downplay it or whatever but exploits have riddled this game since day one and I know quite a few people who have quit playing it over people using them.
Did you read his followup post? He literally said what I quoted him saying.
Yeah. Forum bans are a way to gain major props in this community. I read that as they lost credibility for exploiting like Alacrity myself and would agree with that. Of course I didn't really know Alacrity was doing it too until this thread but I stayed out of all of those Scroll exploiting threads.
The exploits frozn is talking about is him being a hypocrite at best, we did what DKs were doing to keeps and every clown in this forum have done in one way or another. Hypocrites abound, but feel free to agree with frozn if you want on this, its your choice. My choice is to point out the hypocrisy and how stupid it is to somehow say jumping into a keep is different from jumping over a wall based on purpose.... that is horseshit. We proved it could be done and literally told ZOS employees the first time we did it how we did it in the next meeting we had with them. It took them months to fix it because their original solution was just to make a guard hit for 10k which was NOT a fix.
And since apparently everyones credibility is being put on trial here, I didn't nor even could I have jumped over the wall as a templar.
Hypocrite for what? I admitted I used leap to jump on top of walls to fight people like alot of other people. I don't think that change alot the course of the campaign to try to fight a couple players on top of a wall. It would be different if I would be trying to flip the flags or to get a scroll, which I haven't done. It is also much different to jump on the other side of an enemy scroll gate while the gate is closed and to capture a scroll and run it to the other side of the said gate with the objective to get that faction's scroll population out of your last faction's emperor keep to save it when Zenimax a.k.a Brian Wheeler mentioned several times in forums that it is strictly forbidden to get on the other side of an enemy scroll gate when the gate is closed.
The fact you draw the line on the "intent" of the exploit in what makes something the exploit instead of the actual usage of the exploit boggles my freaking mind.... intent doesn't make something an exploit or not an exploit, you don't get to somehow argue jumping a wall here is not an exploit, but jumping a wall there is..... and it only is because the intent on jumping it is different that is the most cognitive dissonance BS I have ever seen.
I mean... hey we jumped the scroll gates to eventually kill people, we rarely if ever actually capped it, we'd run it somewhere to farm/kill people... so by your logic all we did was really the same thing you did.... and krim already addressed your other claim.
I have no idea what you just said. What I know is people from said guild jumped on the other side of the scroll gate to capture scrolls and to bring it on the other side of the gate to bring attention on them and help defend their own keeps in the meantime which was forbidden by ZOS, end of story.
If you cannot understand what I said you're a lost cause. I'll let observers decide whether you're a total hypocrite.
For you since you apparently need it spelled out, you jumped walls just as those you claim did, the purpose of jumping walls doesn't make it exploiting, jumping walls makes it exploiting. So don't throw that stone in your shiny glass house. Just because your wall jumping you felt didn't impact the taking of a keep or campaign much doesn't suddenly make it not an exploit.Edited by Mako1132 on July 18, 2015 2:50AM0 -
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✭✭hammayolettuce wrote: »
You forgot about the part where the half of them got banned from forums for trolling.
forum bans were definitely the underlying issue as to why NM disbanded
Not as to why they disbanded but as to why they lost credibility just like when some of Alacrity members decided it was a good thing to use exploits to capture scrolls behind the gate to try to prove something to ZOS.
Did you really just claim people getting forum bans made people lose their credibility? Really?
No he claimed they lost credibility when they used exploits to capture scrolls.
I know a lost a lot of respect for AOE for participating in that garbage. There is nothing that justifies that kind of play, nothing. People can try to downplay it or whatever but exploits have riddled this game since day one and I know quite a few people who have quit playing it over people using them.
Did you read his followup post? He literally said what I quoted him saying.hammayolettuce wrote: »
You forgot about the part where the half of them got banned from forums for trolling.
forum bans were definitely the underlying issue as to why NM disbanded
Not as to why they disbanded but as to why they lost credibility just like when some of Alacrity members decided it was a good thing to use exploits to capture scrolls behind the gate to try to prove something to ZOS.
Did you really just claim people getting forum bans made people lose their credibility? Really?
No he claimed they lost credibility when they used exploits to capture scrolls.
I know a lost a lot of respect for AOE for participating in that garbage. There is nothing that justifies that kind of play, nothing. People can try to downplay it or whatever but exploits have riddled this game since day one and I know quite a few people who have quit playing it over people using them.
Did you read his followup post? He literally said what I quoted him saying.
Yeah. Forum bans are a way to gain major props in this community. I read that as they lost credibility for exploiting like Alacrity myself and would agree with that. Of course I didn't really know Alacrity was doing it too until this thread but I stayed out of all of those Scroll exploiting threads.
The exploits frozn is talking about is him being a hypocrite at best, we did what DKs were doing to keeps and every clown in this forum have done in one way or another. Hypocrites abound, but feel free to agree with frozn if you want on this, its your choice. My choice is to point out the hypocrisy and how stupid it is to somehow say jumping into a keep is different from jumping over a wall based on purpose.... that is horseshit. We proved it could be done and literally told ZOS employees the first time we did it how we did it in the next meeting we had with them. It took them months to fix it because their original solution was just to make a guard hit for 10k which was NOT a fix.
And since apparently everyones credibility is being put on trial here, I didn't nor even could I have jumped over the wall as a templar.
Hypocrite for what? I admitted I used leap to jump on top of walls to fight people like alot of other people. I don't think that change alot the course of the campaign to try to fight a couple players on top of a wall. It would be different if I would be trying to flip the flags or to get a scroll, which I haven't done. It is also much different to jump on the other side of an enemy scroll gate while the gate is closed and to capture a scroll and run it to the other side of the said gate with the objective to get that faction's scroll population out of your last faction's emperor keep to save it when Zenimax a.k.a Brian Wheeler mentioned several times in forums that it is strictly forbidden to get on the other side of an enemy scroll gate when the gate is closed.
The fact you draw the line on the "intent" of the exploit in what makes something the exploit instead of the actual usage of the exploit boggles my freaking mind.... intent doesn't make something an exploit or not an exploit, you don't get to somehow argue jumping a wall here is not an exploit, but jumping a wall there is..... and it only is because the intent on jumping it is different that is the most cognitive dissonance BS I have ever seen.
I mean... hey we jumped the scroll gates to eventually kill people, we rarely if ever actually capped it, we'd run it somewhere to farm/kill people... so by your logic all we did was really the same thing you did.... and krim already addressed your other claim.
I have no idea what you just said. What I know is people from said guild jumped on the other side of the scroll gate to capture scrolls and to bring it on the other side of the gate to bring attention on them and help defend their own keeps in the meantime which was forbidden by ZOS, end of story.
If you cannot understand what I said you're a lost cause. I'll let observers decide whether you're a total hypocrite.
For you since you apparently need it spelled out, you jumped walls just as those you claim did, the purpose of jumping walls doesn't make it exploiting, jumping walls makes it exploiting. So don't throw that stone in your shiny glass house. Just because your wall jumping you felt didn't impact the taking of a keep or campaign much doesn't suddenly make it not an exploit.
Using Leap to get on top of keep walls have never been forbidden or called "exploiting" by any Zenimax staff members. Using Leap to get on the other side of closed scroll gate has been declared bad and exploiting several times as mentioned in the following thread :
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1528048/#Comment_1528048
If you want any more proofs, I can keep searching in forums and find the dozens of times Brian said so.
Or we can drop it and move on.
SaluteFrozn - Stamdk - AR50
Frosted - Magplar - AR50
Frodn - Magden - AR50
Warmed - Magblade - AR50
Mmfrozy - Magsorc - AR44
Necrozn - Magcro - AR32
Twitch.TV/FrozyTV
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“Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor Roosevelt- Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
- Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
- Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
- Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
- Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
- Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
- Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
- Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
- Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
- Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
- Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
- Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
- Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
- Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
- Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
- Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
- Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
- Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
- Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
- Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
- Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
- Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
- Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
- Introduce dynamic population
- Lower population cap by 20%
- Add Snare Immunity potions
- Bring resurrection sickness
- Fix character desync
- Fix cc breaking bug
- Fix gap closer bug
- Fix health desync
- Fix combat bug
- Fix streak bug
- Fix server lag
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Payed shill!hammayolettuce wrote: »
You forgot about the part where the half of them got banned from forums for trolling.
forum bans were definitely the underlying issue as to why NM disbanded
Not as to why they disbanded but as to why they lost credibility just like when some of Alacrity members decided it was a good thing to use exploits to capture scrolls behind the gate to try to prove something to ZOS.
Did you really just claim people getting forum bans made people lose their credibility? Really?
No he claimed they lost credibility when they used exploits to capture scrolls.
I know a lost a lot of respect for AOE for participating in that garbage. There is nothing that justifies that kind of play, nothing. People can try to downplay it or whatever but exploits have riddled this game since day one and I know quite a few people who have quit playing it over people using them.
Did you read his followup post? He literally said what I quoted him saying.hammayolettuce wrote: »
You forgot about the part where the half of them got banned from forums for trolling.
forum bans were definitely the underlying issue as to why NM disbanded
Not as to why they disbanded but as to why they lost credibility just like when some of Alacrity members decided it was a good thing to use exploits to capture scrolls behind the gate to try to prove something to ZOS.
Did you really just claim people getting forum bans made people lose their credibility? Really?
No he claimed they lost credibility when they used exploits to capture scrolls.
I know a lost a lot of respect for AOE for participating in that garbage. There is nothing that justifies that kind of play, nothing. People can try to downplay it or whatever but exploits have riddled this game since day one and I know quite a few people who have quit playing it over people using them.
Did you read his followup post? He literally said what I quoted him saying.
Yeah. Forum bans are a way to gain major props in this community. I read that as they lost credibility for exploiting like Alacrity myself and would agree with that. Of course I didn't really know Alacrity was doing it too until this thread but I stayed out of all of those Scroll exploiting threads.
The exploits frozn is talking about is him being a hypocrite at best, we did what DKs were doing to keeps and every clown in this forum have done in one way or another. Hypocrites abound, but feel free to agree with frozn if you want on this, its your choice. My choice is to point out the hypocrisy and how stupid it is to somehow say jumping into a keep is different from jumping over a wall based on purpose.... that is horseshit. We proved it could be done and literally told ZOS employees the first time we did it how we did it in the next meeting we had with them. It took them months to fix it because their original solution was just to make a guard hit for 10k which was NOT a fix.
And since apparently everyones credibility is being put on trial here, I didn't nor even could I have jumped over the wall as a templar.
Hypocrite for what? I admitted I used leap to jump on top of walls to fight people like alot of other people. I don't think that change alot the course of the campaign to try to fight a couple players on top of a wall. It would be different if I would be trying to flip the flags or to get a scroll, which I haven't done. It is also much different to jump on the other side of an enemy scroll gate while the gate is closed and to capture a scroll and run it to the other side of the said gate with the objective to get that faction's scroll population out of your last faction's emperor keep to save it when Zenimax a.k.a Brian Wheeler mentioned several times in forums that it is strictly forbidden to get on the other side of an enemy scroll gate when the gate is closed.
The fact you draw the line on the "intent" of the exploit in what makes something the exploit instead of the actual usage of the exploit boggles my freaking mind.... intent doesn't make something an exploit or not an exploit, you don't get to somehow argue jumping a wall here is not an exploit, but jumping a wall there is..... and it only is because the intent on jumping it is different that is the most cognitive dissonance BS I have ever seen.
I mean... hey we jumped the scroll gates to eventually kill people, we rarely if ever actually capped it, we'd run it somewhere to farm/kill people... so by your logic all we did was really the same thing you did.... and krim already addressed your other claim.
I have no idea what you just said. What I know is people from said guild jumped on the other side of the scroll gate to capture scrolls and to bring it on the other side of the gate to bring attention on them and help defend their own keeps in the meantime which was forbidden by ZOS, end of story.
If you cannot understand what I said you're a lost cause. I'll let observers decide whether you're a total hypocrite.
For you since you apparently need it spelled out, you jumped walls just as those you claim did, the purpose of jumping walls doesn't make it exploiting, jumping walls makes it exploiting. So don't throw that stone in your shiny glass house. Just because your wall jumping you felt didn't impact the taking of a keep or campaign much doesn't suddenly make it not an exploit.
Using Leap to get on top of keep walls have never been forbidden or called "exploiting" by any Zenimax staff members. Using Leap to get on the other side of closed scroll gate has been declared bad and exploiting several times as mentioned in the following thread :
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1528048/#Comment_1528048
If you want any more proofs, I can keep searching in forums and find the dozens of times Brian said so.
Or we can drop it and move on.
Salute
Didnt they try to change the terrain around certain keeps and what not to stop people from leaping in?1 -
Gol Barr✭✭Minnesinger wrote: »No I am not from NM. Actually I got killed in this vid by them..Just for the sake of good old DC
https://youtube.com/watch?v=w8VxunRQ1n0
good *whit with the *** music...0 -
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✭Minnesinger wrote: »No I am not from NM. Actually I got killed in this vid by them..Just for the sake of good old DC
https://youtube.com/watch?v=w8VxunRQ1n0
good *whit with the *** music...
Yup the music of their choice was not to my taste. Great fights as you can see in this vid. DC built their rep at this time.A is for Atronach.
B is for Bungler's Bane.
C is for Comberry.0 -
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✭✭✭Publius,
This thread was fun. Start a new one that isn't TL;DR
I will sum it up for you.
I called out the AD and EP in the NAME OF ALL THAT IS COVENANT and BICEPS. And I posted the single greatest picture in the history of the ESO forums to date on the first page.
Then we had Days of Our Lives the Alacrity edition.
I RP'ed Sheliza on page 5.
I had dessert with the great actor Anthony BICEPSkin on page 7.
I accepted my Oscar on page 8.
A bunch of EP and AD guild people went at it with each other about who exploited, how, and when.
Then Fengrush showed up very late and all that was heard were crickets singing in the dark.
Edited by Publius_Scipio on July 18, 2015 4:02PM2 -
RadioheadSh0t✭✭✭✭✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »No need to even mention WRX and Decibel. They had their era, now they are all geriatric. The zerg pushes WRX on his wheelchair around the resource towers now.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Aldonius Direnni - Vet Altmer Sorc (AD)
Tyrus Telvanni - Vet Dunmer DK (AD)
Al Donius Bundy - Vet Imperial NB (AD)
Aldonius Brutus - Vet Orc DK (DC)1 -
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✭RadioheadSh0t wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »No need to even mention WRX and Decibel. They had their era, now they are all geriatric. The zerg pushes WRX on his wheelchair around the resource towers now.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
They hate us because it takes a group of 24 of them to kill one of us.~Thallen~0 -
Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭bosmern_ESO wrote: »RadioheadSh0t wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »No need to even mention WRX and Decibel. They had their era, now they are all geriatric. The zerg pushes WRX on his wheelchair around the resource towers now.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
They hate us because it takes a group of 24 of them to kill one of us.
WRX has that picture up as his avatar on ts now
On another note, I must be the l2p Decibel
because it takes significantly less than 24 people to kill me. Winni
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VE
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✭✭bosmern_ESO wrote: »RadioheadSh0t wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »No need to even mention WRX and Decibel. They had their era, now they are all geriatric. The zerg pushes WRX on his wheelchair around the resource towers now.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
They hate us because it takes a group of 24 of them to kill one of us.
WRX has that picture up as his avatar on ts now
On another note, I must be the l2p Decibel because it takes significantly less than 24 people to kill me.
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Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭bosmern_ESO wrote: »RadioheadSh0t wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »No need to even mention WRX and Decibel. They had their era, now they are all geriatric. The zerg pushes WRX on his wheelchair around the resource towers now.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
They hate us because it takes a group of 24 of them to kill one of us.
WRX has that picture up as his avatar on ts now
On another note, I must be the l2p Decibel because it takes significantly less than 24 people to kill me.
Yep!
Fite me Mano!Winni
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VE
Decibel0 -
WRX✭✭✭✭✭I find this all flattering to myself and Decibel. After we are done raiding Inflicted.org's server, might see you on ESO again.Decibel GM
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No there was not. This is defamation and has been reported for naming and shaming.0 -
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✭✭✭bosmern_ESO wrote: »RadioheadSh0t wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »No need to even mention WRX and Decibel. They had their era, now they are all geriatric. The zerg pushes WRX on his wheelchair around the resource towers now.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
They hate us because it takes a group of 24 of them to kill one of us.
WRX has that picture up as his avatar on ts now
On another note, I must be the l2p Decibel because it takes significantly less than 24 people to kill me.
That Wrecking Blow spam!Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
Knights Paravant -- Co-GM and Raid Lead -- AD Greyhost0 -
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✭✭✭I find this all flattering to myself and Decibel. After we are done raiding Inflicted.org's server, might see you on ESO again.
Speak for yourself scrub.{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
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Flawlless✭✭✭I play AD, but have a lot of respect for DC, as all their players seem to be prety good and well organized, and seem to do well even when outnumbered.
EP on the other hand.... *wrinkles nose*
When are they ever outnumbered these days? Well organized? It doesn't take much strategy to bring 100 players to every keep take/defense. They're just like EP used to be, while EP has turned into hard mode because we now have one guild that isn't a pick up group. Though if you're an AD from Azura, it makes sense why you'd respect zerglings, I'm sure you relate to them.1
