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"Disagree" Post Option.
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BurtFreeman✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »For what it's worth, we are exploring the possibility of bringing the Disagree button back.
the forums are already quite negative.
because the votes are anonymous.
if the vote will be open and followed by a meaning comment, then the posters will take care about their reputation before make a vote.
trasparency make us a better persons.Edited by BurtFreeman on July 16, 2015 9:02PM0 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Don't mind a button as long as it's not a ranked post, hidden post system. Let people disagree button all they like but DO NOT make it rate posts as relevant or irrelevant. That's where the misuse will come from.
Additionally did ZOS remove the LOL button because it was being abused for this reason, if you're going to bring back the dislike bring back the LOL as well.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Don't mind a button as long as it's not a ranked post, hidden post system. Let people disagree button all they like but DO NOT make it rate posts as relevant or irrelevant. That's where the misuse will come from.
Additionally did ZOS remove the LOL button because it was being abused for this reason, if you're going to bring back the dislike bring back the LOL as well.
Disagree.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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Azurulia✭✭✭Riko_Futatabi wrote: »Forums can be negative enough. Most human beings can't be trusted to not misuse a negative option such as a disagree button when they can hide behind avatars on the internet. Besides you can see clear enough when people agree and disagree with the current system. If anything maybe people should use the "Poll" option more if they really want to see more accurately who agrees and disagrees.
I do like the "LOL" button though, should have that again.
Most human being cannot be trusted to use a positive option in a positive manner. I'm going to venture a guess this is why the LOL button was removed.
There is no stopping trolls. Because as much as we may hate them, trolls are genius creatures that excel at getting under our skin. No system is troll proof, not without ridiculous limitations. Even then a clever troll will still find a way.
No matter how troll-proof you make something, someone will always make a better troll.
Edited by Azurulia on July 16, 2015 9:08PMCriminal Scum:
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✭✭For what it's worth, Reddit has upvote and downvote buttons and the "atmosphere" on the game's official subreddit is like night and day compared to here. I'm not saying which is better or which is a more accurate representation of reality, but night and day. Come join us:
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Disagree.
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✭✭BurtFreeman wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »For what it's worth, we are exploring the possibility of bringing the Disagree button back.
the forums are already quite negative.
because the votes are anonymous.
if the vote will be open and followed by a meaning comment, then the posters will take care about their reputation before make a vote.
trasparency make us a better persons.
You honestly believe that? In reality it's people's thoughtless comments that cause these threads to blow up.:trollin:1 -
Azurulia✭✭✭eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »BurtFreeman wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »For what it's worth, we are exploring the possibility of bringing the Disagree button back.
the forums are already quite negative.
because the votes are anonymous.
if the vote will be open and followed by a meaning comment, then the posters will take care about their reputation before make a vote.
transparency make us a better persons.
You honestly believe that? In reality it's people's thoughtless comments that cause these threads to blow up.
It's a mix of both if you ask me. You have thoughtless, careless people who genuinely don't care about others on the internet who say things, then you have the tools for them to push it even further.
transparency doesn't always make us better people, it also allows people to protect themselves from repercussions when they say what they really thing, or to do what they feel like doing. This is why people post on alts and alt accounts on forums and stuff.
They are using the transparency and animosity of the internet in their favor. However positive or negative this is depends on the person in question.
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GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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Azurulia✭✭✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
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I think having an option to show disagreement is preferable for people who cannot otherwise articulate their thoughts in a constructive manner.eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »BurtFreeman wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »For what it's worth, we are exploring the possibility of bringing the Disagree button back.
the forums are already quite negative.
because the votes are anonymous.
if the vote will be open and followed by a meaning comment, then the posters will take care about their reputation before make a vote.
transparency make us a better persons.
You honestly believe that? In reality it's people's thoughtless comments that cause these threads to blow up.
It's a mix of both if you ask me. You have thoughtless, careless people who genuinely don't care about others on the internet who say things, then you have the tools for them to push it even further.
transparency doesn't always make us better people, it also allows people to protect themselves from repercussions when they say what they really thing, or to do what they feel like doing. This is why people post on alts and alt accounts on forums and stuff.
They are using the transparency and animosity of the internet in their favor. However positive or negative this is depends on the person in question.
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Azurulia✭✭✭eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »
I think having an option to show disagreement is preferable for people who cannot otherwise articulate their thoughts in a constructive manner.eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »BurtFreeman wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »For what it's worth, we are exploring the possibility of bringing the Disagree button back.
the forums are already quite negative.
because the votes are anonymous.
if the vote will be open and followed by a meaning comment, then the posters will take care about their reputation before make a vote.
transparency make us a better persons.
You honestly believe that? In reality it's people's thoughtless comments that cause these threads to blow up.
It's a mix of both if you ask me. You have thoughtless, careless people who genuinely don't care about others on the internet who say things, then you have the tools for them to push it even further.
transparency doesn't always make us better people, it also allows people to protect themselves from repercussions when they say what they really thing, or to do what they feel like doing. This is why people post on alts and alt accounts on forums and stuff.
They are using the transparency and animosity of the internet in their favor. However positive or negative this is depends on the person in question.
That is a very good way of putting it.
Edited by Azurulia on July 16, 2015 9:21PMCriminal Scum:
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GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
My multiple "Disagree" posts demonstrated the absurdity of simply disagreeing with someone, without bothering to state why.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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Azurulia✭✭✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
My multiple "Disagree" posts demonstrated the absurdity of simply disagreeing with someone, without bothering to state why.
Not really. I saw them as you simply disagreeing with what was said. Nothing more, nothing less.
As far as why? I'm sure you have your reasons, and reason why you don't state them.
Edited by Azurulia on July 16, 2015 9:24PMCriminal Scum:
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Banky71✭✭✭✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
My multiple "Disagree" posts demonstrated the absurdity of simply disagreeing with someone, without bothering to state why.
DisagreeIf you chase two rabbits, you will lose them both.
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Azurulia✭✭✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
My multiple "Disagree" posts demonstrated the absurdity of simply disagreeing with someone, without bothering to state why.
Disagree
Agree.
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GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
My multiple "Disagree" posts demonstrated the absurdity of simply disagreeing with someone, without bothering to state why.
Disagree
Disagree.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »
I think having an option to show disagreement is preferable for people who cannot otherwise articulate their thoughts in a constructive manner.eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »BurtFreeman wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »For what it's worth, we are exploring the possibility of bringing the Disagree button back.
the forums are already quite negative.
because the votes are anonymous.
if the vote will be open and followed by a meaning comment, then the posters will take care about their reputation before make a vote.
transparency make us a better persons.
You honestly believe that? In reality it's people's thoughtless comments that cause these threads to blow up.
It's a mix of both if you ask me. You have thoughtless, careless people who genuinely don't care about others on the internet who say things, then you have the tools for them to push it even further.
transparency doesn't always make us better people, it also allows people to protect themselves from repercussions when they say what they really thing, or to do what they feel like doing. This is why people post on alts and alt accounts on forums and stuff.
They are using the transparency and animosity of the internet in their favor. However positive or negative this is depends on the person in question.
And the "agree" option? What is that for? For those people who cannot articulate in a constructive manner why they agree?0 -
GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
My multiple "Disagree" posts demonstrated the absurdity of simply disagreeing with someone, without bothering to state why.
Disagree
Agree.
Disagree.Crotchety Old Man Guild
"Hey you, get off my lawn!"0 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
My multiple "Disagree" posts demonstrated the absurdity of simply disagreeing with someone, without bothering to state why.
And simply "agreeing" with somebody without articulating why you agree with them is better? Doing that just makes you a sheep.0 -
Banky71✭✭✭✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
My multiple "Disagree" posts demonstrated the absurdity of simply disagreeing with someone, without bothering to state why.
Disagree
Agree.
Disagree.
Agree to disagree!If you chase two rabbits, you will lose them both.
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Azurulia✭✭✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
My multiple "Disagree" posts demonstrated the absurdity of simply disagreeing with someone, without bothering to state why.
Disagree
Agree.
Disagree.
see?
It works great! We just stated a bunch of opinions with a single word.
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Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I disagree that this is worth a discussion...What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
Click HERE to discuss.
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Azurulia✭✭✭I disagree that this is worth a discussion...
I disagree.
It is important to be able to disagree, or agree to disagree.
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Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
My multiple "Disagree" posts demonstrated the absurdity of simply disagreeing with someone, without bothering to state why.
Disagree
Agree.
Disagree.
see?
It works great! We just stated a bunch of opinions with a single word.
Too bad you could not have expressed them with a button and cut down on clutter in this thread.
"If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
My multiple "Disagree" posts demonstrated the absurdity of simply disagreeing with someone, without bothering to state why.
And simply "agreeing" with somebody without articulating why you agree with them is better? Doing that just makes you a sheep.
Let's take a look at that in detail:
Poster A: I really enjoy ESO, and it has a lot to offer
Poster B: I agree, because ... well ... what you said.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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Zershar_Vemod✭✭✭✭✭Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »There used to be, but unfortunately we live in a pansy politically correct world where you might hurt someone's feelings, and it was removed.
^ This.
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✭Didn't we have someone going around and systematically lolling all of one specific poster's posts? Or am I remembering this from another forum. Anyway, downvotes, lols, disagrees and such do enable such infantile behaviour.Please stop making requests for game features. ZOS have enough bad ideas as it is!0 -
Azurulia✭✭✭Hmmm, folks are disagreeing with others and explaining why?
... and here I was, practicing for the inevitable return of the "disagree" button.
I'd be doing both personally. I fall udner the "If I feel storng enough I'm going to post anyway." category when it comes to this particular discussion. Others? Not so much. I'd just drop my opinion in a click of a button and go back to the rest of the forums.
My multiple "Disagree" posts demonstrated the absurdity of simply disagreeing with someone, without bothering to state why.
And simply "agreeing" with somebody without articulating why you agree with them is better? Doing that just makes you a sheep.
Let's take a look at that in detail:
Poster A: I really enjoy ESO, and it has a lot to offer
Poster B: I agree, because ... well ... what you said.
The same can be said for disagree.
Poster A: I really enjoy ESO, and it has a lot to offer
Poster B: I disagree, because ... well ... I don't agree with what you said.
Now you may ask why he disagrees? Then I'll just ask why the other agrees with poster A.
Edited by Azurulia on July 16, 2015 9:40PMCriminal Scum:
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