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Hope499✭✭✭✭Why was SO much favoritism shown towards the PC players compared to the console players? I mean, you guys cannot dent that it isn't true due to the fact that they received so much. Console players got their versions of ESO delayed while PC players received loyalty items for playing while we could not, PC players received that monkey pet (I forgot the name) for participating in the PC Beta while console players didn't receive anything and we couldn't at least keep our character data, PC players received all those Crowns for each month that they paid to play before ESO went free-to-play AND PC players were able to transfer their PC characters (along with all this rewards) to the consoles.
How is that fair?! The console players even helped the PC players by already paying to play online, which is why ESO went free-to-play!
The console players definitely got the short end on this one...
Man, as a console player I can honestly say I am glad I have no come across you in game. I can only imagine the whining and complaining you must do, if this is actually a issue for you...
Be glad we got it, and thank the PC players for their time to get it working better for us.
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DirtySmeegs33✭✭✭Why was SO much favoritism shown towards the PC players compared to the console players? I mean, you guys cannot dent that it isn't true due to the fact that they received so much. Console players got their versions of ESO delayed while PC players received loyalty items for playing while we could not, PC players received that monkey pet (I forgot the name) for participating in the PC Beta while console players didn't receive anything and we couldn't at least keep our character data, PC players received all those Crowns for each month that they paid to play before ESO went free-to-play AND PC players were able to transfer their PC characters (along with all this rewards) to the consoles.
How is that fair?! The console players even helped the PC players by already paying to play online, which is why ESO went free-to-play!
The console players definitely got the short end on this one...
Man, as a console player I can honestly say I am glad I have no come across you in game. I can only imagine the whining and complaining you must do, if this is actually a issue for you...
Be glad we got it, and thank the PC players for their time to get it working better for us.
Exactly. OP you are way off the mark in my opinion as well.1 -
Gorthax✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why was SO much favoritism shown towards the PC players compared to the console players? I mean, you guys cannot dent that it isn't true due to the fact that they received so much. Console players got their versions of ESO delayed while PC players received loyalty items for playing while we could not, PC players received that monkey pet (I forgot the name) for participating in the PC Beta while console players didn't receive anything and we couldn't at least keep our character data, PC players received all those Crowns for each month that they paid to play before ESO went free-to-play AND PC players were able to transfer their PC characters (along with all this rewards) to the consoles.
How is that fair?! The console players even helped the PC players by already paying to play online, which is why ESO went free-to-play!
The console players definitely got the short end on this one...
Man, as a console player I can honestly say I am glad I have no come across you in game. I can only imagine the whining and complaining you must do, if this is actually a issue for you...
Be glad we got it, and thank the PC players for their time to get it working better for us.
This person gets it! Thank you for understanding what us PC players have dealt with to make your experience better. Our bitterness is not without reasonEdited by Gorthax on July 14, 2015 4:26PM1 -
King Bozo✭✭✭While the voice of this thread does not speak for all console players...I would like to add one thing. Add text chat to console will improve most players experience for the good. We all will be able to group for the 4 man dungeons and trials. The game would be more complete with this simple feature and MOST console players would agree.1 -
dsalter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Why was SO much favoritism shown towards the PC players compared to the console players? I mean, you guys cannot dent that it isn't true due to the fact that they received so much. Console players got their versions of ESO delayed while PC players received loyalty items for playing while we could not, PC players received that monkey pet (I forgot the name) for participating in the PC Beta while console players didn't receive anything and we couldn't at least keep our character data, PC players received all those Crowns for each month that they paid to play before ESO went free-to-play AND PC players were able to transfer their PC characters (along with all this rewards) to the consoles.
How is that fair?! The console players even helped the PC players by already paying to play online, which is why ESO went free-to-play!
The console players definitely got the short end on this one...
we suffered with so many broken features so you get a moderatly working game.PLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
EU - [Arch Mage Dave] Altmer Sorcerer
Fight back at the crates and boxes, together we can change things.1 -
J2JMC✭✭✭✭✭Be glad we got it, and thank the PC players for their time to get it working better for us.
I don't agree with OP either but please come up for air sometimes.
Knee Jerk, L2P, Obtuse, Casual, Entitled, All The Best, unnecessary mention of CoD
Battle leveling for pve content defeats the idea of progression. Remove CP
"Apparently the players are more informed than we are"-Richard Lambert0 -
haukke✭✭I played beta for 8 months and the pc release for 14 months and I now play the console version exclusively. no one here thankfully speaks for me. I have had a blast with the game since pc release and with the larger population on console I am even having more fun. anyone from pc that thinks they "beta tested" this game for console players need to think just how stupid that sounds when you say it out loud. no one forced you to play. I played because I loved the game and still do. the game is great no matter the platform.0 -
Bromburak✭✭✭✭✭Imo any opinion is welcome but please speak for yourself and don't hide behind "We".
A self made ambassador attitude is very immature.
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Vyle_Byte✭✭✭✭✭
✭Favoritism? LOL Yeah okay, so we've been lied to a hundred times, have been put on the back burner for consoles and YES beta tested this game (many of us didn't mind but that's not the point) but yet ZOS has shown PC favoritism? Man, you are one funny dude. Gimme a break man, go play your game and stop tryin to start a war between the two.
Ya know, alot of the PC community feels jaded so a thread such as this is gonna invoke a sheet storm. Should just /thread.Edited by Vyle_Byte on July 14, 2015 5:01PMMember of the Old GuardMother of the Byte FamilyVyle Byte||Ivana Byte||Vyible Byte||Hakate Vampler Former EMPRESS BWB||Haan Zolo {Retired} (He swung first)||Lunari ||Wardyn Chalyk Tahno||Dirti Dianah||Bonnie||
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Psychobunni✭✭✭✭✭
✭Favoritism? LOL Yeah okay, so we've been lied to a hundred times, have been put on the back burner for consoles and YES beta tested this game (many of us didn't mind but that's not the point) but yet ZOS has shown PC favoritism? Man, you are one funny dude. Gimme a break man, go play your game and stop tryin to start a war between the two.
Ya know, alot of the PC community feels jaded so a thread such as this is gonna invoke a sheet storm. Should just /thread.
Yeah, I read this OP and tbh was shocked it was still up with ZOS even in the thread because it is in no way "constructive".
After consoles, after consoles, after consoles(the ZOS mantra on doing anything).......and who has "favoritism?"
OP- You can have all of my pets, every last one of them. Screenshot this and mail it to ZOS. They are simply junk dragging down server juice and contributing to lag and you are welcome to have them transfer mine to you. I had trashed them but they added them back in the stupid collection tab. Have a
too while we are at it. If options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!5 -
psicorpb16_ESO✭✭✭While I don't wholeheartedly agree that pc gamers 'beta tested' the game, (nobody held us at gunpoint) we did kinda help along the development while paying quite alot over the last year or so, I myself would guess that it's it the region of £200-£300 and that is not a a small amount for a game. IMO
However I wish that the money we all spent was/is being put to a future that pc and console players can enjoy, ie: text chat (for consoles) and working group functions for all.
But (yes I know you shouldn't start a sentence with 'but'). BUT , we need more content and more importantly an idea what the future holds or even I will give up , and I Love this game.
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Curtischoy✭✭I am on Xbox NA server and I am happy that I never had to pay a monthly fee and that tons of bugs have been fixed before it was even released for console. There are still lots of bugs, but there are dramatically fewer.
I feel like PC players got the shaft, not us.1 -
haukke✭✭Favoritism? LOL Yeah okay, so we've been lied to a hundred times, have been put on the back burner for consoles and YES beta tested this game (many of us didn't mind but that's not the point) but yet ZOS has shown PC favoritism? Man, you are one funny dude. Gimme a break man, go play your game and stop tryin to start a war between the two.
Ya know, alot of the PC community feels jaded so a thread such as this is gonna invoke a sheet storm. Should just /thread.
by bringing up the fact that you beta tested this game for console players means it does bother you. if you feel that way then it is your own fault for playing. I played almost 2 years and never felt I was beta testing except when I was actually beta testing. there is a thread "for pc players only" I don't see the difference between this and that. the fact that most pc players would have liked this game to fail then have it released on console is simply stupid.0 -
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by bringing up the fact that you beta tested this game for console players means it does bother you. if you feel that way then it is your own fault for playing. I played almost 2 years and never felt I was beta testing except when I was actually beta testing. there is a thread "for pc players only" I don't see the difference between this and that. the fact that most pc players would have liked this game to fail then have it released on console is simply stupid.
The only reason I brought that up was because people in the thread were saying it wasn't. I am not bothered by that fact. I didn't HAVE to play, I wanted to play so therefore I did and I didn't mind the whole 15 bucks a month, so go throw your judgements elsewhere.
And I don't participate in the pc only thread, because I see no reason to 'separate' ourselves in that way. I also don't believe that most pc players wanted the game to fail rather than have it released on console. That's friggin ludicrous. Just didn't appreciate being put on the back burner.
The fact is this thread has no point other than to start crap between the two. It is not constructive in any way whatsoever, absolutely nothing good will come from it, just more bickering.Member of the Old GuardMother of the Byte FamilyVyle Byte||Ivana Byte||Vyible Byte||Hakate Vampler Former EMPRESS BWB||Haan Zolo {Retired} (He swung first)||Lunari ||Wardyn Chalyk Tahno||Dirti Dianah||Bonnie||
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UglyTriangle✭✭✭Guess this topic was bound to come up sooner or later.
Hi, scumbag PC-to-console player here who has the monkey and a few other goodies from playing on PC. I originally wanted to play on console, but decided to stick with PC in the meantime since I wanted to play ESO. I'm pretty sure they said those who purchased a particular edition of the game would be able to transfer their characters at a later date when the console version was finally ready to launch. I don't see how it's favoritism. It's the way things panned out and IMHO, it turned out for the better since they had time to tune the game (not that it's perfect yet).Bobo the Cowardly | Warden | Healer/MagDPS
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Gorthax✭✭✭✭✭
✭Favoritism? LOL Yeah okay, so we've been lied to a hundred times, have been put on the back burner for consoles and YES beta tested this game (many of us didn't mind but that's not the point) but yet ZOS has shown PC favoritism? Man, you are one funny dude. Gimme a break man, go play your game and stop tryin to start a war between the two.
Ya know, alot of the PC community feels jaded so a thread such as this is gonna invoke a sheet storm. Should just /thread.
by bringing up the fact that you beta tested this game for console players means it does bother you. if you feel that way then it is your own fault for playing. I played almost 2 years and never felt I was beta testing except when I was actually beta testing. there is a thread "for pc players only" I don't see the difference between this and that. the fact that most pc players would have liked this game to fail then have it released on console is simply stupid.
I LOVED paying to beta test this for console. L.O.V.E.D! That's only because I liked what the game was doing......then we got put on hold until they finalized the consoles. I still pay (pretty sure that's a rare thing now) the monthly fee. Though everyday I question why lately. Does it bother me? Not one bit. So you honestly can't say just cuz we (I in this case) brought it up we must be angry/bothered. The only thing I am bothered by is that this company let pc fall to crap to make way for a console version which was botched in some ways (no text chat ROFL). Other than that ZOS has till the end of this year to before I pull the plug on my support.
I say that because I'm sick of being dragged around by their indecisiveness on releasing info, their refusal to ban OBVIOUS exploiters, their laughable moderation on these forums, their complete lack of communication, no new content, but hey don't worry we are making all kinds of crown store items! THAT is why I will eventually pull the plug on my support for the game. Not cuz of console, cuz of ZOS logic....Edited by Gorthax on July 14, 2015 6:19PM5 -
MornaBaine✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I was absolutely sure the OP was pure parody and I was like, "Ha! Good one!" Then I started reading the comments. This dude is actually... serious? /faintsPAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!1 -
GreySix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well this has just degenerated into a PC vs. Console session.
Can't see this ending well.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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MornaBaine✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Favoritism? LOL Yeah okay, so we've been lied to a hundred times, have been put on the back burner for consoles and YES beta tested this game (many of us didn't mind but that's not the point) but yet ZOS has shown PC favoritism? Man, you are one funny dude. Gimme a break man, go play your game and stop tryin to start a war between the two.
Ya know, alot of the PC community feels jaded so a thread such as this is gonna invoke a sheet storm. Should just /thread.
by bringing up the fact that you beta tested this game for console players means it does bother you. if you feel that way then it is your own fault for playing. I played almost 2 years and never felt I was beta testing except when I was actually beta testing. there is a thread "for pc players only" I don't see the difference between this and that. the fact that most pc players would have liked this game to fail then have it released on console is simply stupid.
I LOVED paying to beta test this for console. L.O.V.E.D! That's only because I liked what the game was doing......then we got put on hold until they finalized the consoles. I still pay (pretty sure that's a rare thing now) the monthly fee. Though everyday I question why lately. Does it bother me? Not one bit. So you honestly can't say just cuz we (I in this case) brought it up we must be angry/bothered. The only thing I am bothered by is that this company let pc fall to crap to make way for a console version which was botched in some ways (no text chat ROFL). Other than that ZOS has till the end of this year to before I pull the plug on my support.
I say that because I'm sick of being dragged around by their indecisiveness on releasing info, their refusal to ban OBVIOUS exploitera, their laughable moderation on these forums, their complete lack of communication, no new content, but hey don't worry we are making all kinds of crown store items! THAT is why I will eventually pull the plug on my support for the game. Not cuz of console, cuz of ZOS logic....
I totally could have written this post. I'm one of the still paying fools since launch and ZoS has until Xmas to wow me for that to continue to be the case.PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!2 -
ShedsHisTail✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why was SO much favoritism shown towards the PC players compared to the console players? I mean, you guys cannot dent that it isn't true due to the fact that they received so much. Console players got their versions of ESO delayed while PC players received loyalty items for playing while we could not, PC players received that monkey pet (I forgot the name) for participating in the PC Beta while console players didn't receive anything and we couldn't at least keep our character data, PC players received all those Crowns for each month that they paid to play before ESO went free-to-play AND PC players were able to transfer their PC characters (along with all this rewards) to the consoles.
How is that fair?! The console players even helped the PC players by already paying to play online, which is why ESO went free-to-play!
The console players definitely got the short end on this one...
Probably has something to do with PC players doing the beta testing, putting up with the glitches and bugs and crashes, and then when it went live, paying a monthly subscription for 18 months in order to fund your fre-to-play gaming experience. Also, there was no retroactive Crown reward for the year plus I paid to play.
One of the biggest hiccups with the consoles, as I understand, wasn't even related to game play but rather sorting out a billing/server structure which was compatible with Sony and Microsoft."As an online discussion of Tamrielic Lore grows longer, the probability of someone blaming a Dragon Break approaches 1." -- Sheds' Law
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EQBallzz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why was SO much favoritism shown towards the PC players compared to the console players? I mean, you guys cannot dent that it isn't true due to the fact that they received so much. Console players got their versions of ESO delayed while PC players received loyalty items for playing while we could not, PC players received that monkey pet (I forgot the name) for participating in the PC Beta while console players didn't receive anything and we couldn't at least keep our character data, PC players received all those Crowns for each month that they paid to play before ESO went free-to-play AND PC players were able to transfer their PC characters (along with all this rewards) to the consoles.
How is that fair?! The console players even helped the PC players by already paying to play online, which is why ESO went free-to-play!
The console players definitely got the short end on this one...
You are right about one thing...as a console player it is your fault that ESO went B2P so I guess I now have a name to blame for the sorry state of affairs this game is in. Thanks BigBoi314.Edited by EQBallzz on July 14, 2015 8:22PM1 -
grumlins✭✭✭From what I've seen any rewards that were left out were either too trivial to think about or are on their way (like the bug preventing what people paid for in their purchased game for the console) so this argument doesn't hold much water.
Second I agree with most here about the console thing, consoles have a very specific time frame for updates because not only do the game publishers have to work around their own schedules they have to work around the console developer's update schedule so there is going to always be a delay.
Finally, this MMO compared to others (laughing to myself right now of the absurdity that is the Neverwinter Online title right now with all of the content they left out just to race to the console) has been the closest to the final pc version on console release that I've seen thus far and probably the closest we'll actually see on the console for a long time to come.
For me as a pc player who converted to the console directly due to the terrible policies out there that developers tend to use on their pc playerbase and the attitude that the pc playerbase seems to have to allow these policies to continue, this particular game was handled correctly EVEN with the launch being as unfortunate is it was. It was still handled with care and with dedication from what I've experienced for years now.
So seeing these complaints really baffles the mind.
I challenge those who come here to complain about how ZOS has handled things to look back at how other titles out there were handled most recently in fact, and see just how bad it's gotten and then come back here and realize just how wrong you were.
Titles like SWTOR, GW2, NWO, STO, the original launch of Diablo III on PC, Archeage, the draconian changes to Defiance, and the controversies that occurred with each one (some of which that are still occurring to this day.) should be examined by these complainers at length.1 -
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✭To the developers ,
Please stop making requests for game features. ZOS have enough bad ideas as it is!1 -
The only thing I will agree with in the OP is the fact pc players should have never been given the option to transfer characters.
Honestly Zen screwed up majorly with that. PVP wouldn't be as bad if PC players with hundreds of champion points weren't running around being all OP and whatnot.
But that is the only thing I will agree with. So no you don't speak for me.1 -
BigBoi314✭✭Apparently no one reads all the comments because people are still taking the original post 100% serious. So I made an edit note in the original post.0
