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To the Developers...

BigBoi314
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Why was SO much favoritism shown towards the PC players compared to the console players? I mean, you guys cannot dent that it isn't true due to the fact that they received so much. Console players got their versions of ESO delayed while PC players received loyalty items for playing while we could not, PC players received that monkey pet (I forgot the name) for participating in the PC Beta while console players didn't receive anything and we couldn't at least keep our character data, PC players received all those Crowns for each month that they paid to play before ESO went free-to-play AND PC players were able to transfer their PC characters (along with all this rewards) to the consoles.

How is that fair?! The console players even helped the PC players by already paying to play online, which is why ESO went free-to-play!

The console players definitely got the short end on this one...

EDIT: This post has already been cleaned up by the mods, the original post was mostly just messing around. But I do want to know what you guys have to say to the devs while we have their attention.
Edited by BigBoi314 on July 15, 2015 6:56AM
  • Ace_of_Destiny
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    As a console player I must say...

    This person does NOT speak for us all.


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    Edited by Ace_of_Destiny on July 14, 2015 1:13PM
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  • BigBoi314
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    Ace-2112 wrote: »
    As a console player I must say...

    This person does NOT speak for us all.


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    I speak for a LOT though...
  • Kazzy56
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    Also a console player who will not associate herself with the OP in any way shape or form. :/
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  • DaveTheMinion
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    Ace-2112 wrote: »
    As a console player I must say...

    This person does NOT speak for us all.


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    I couldn't have put it better myself +1 for you......
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    BigBoi314 wrote: »
    Why was SO much favoritism shown towards the PC players compared to the console players? I mean, you guys cannot dent that it isn't true due to the fact that they received so much. Console players got their versions of ESO delayed while PC players received loyalty items for playing while we could not, PC players received that monkey pet (I forgot the name) for participating in the PC Beta while console players didn't receive anything and we couldn't at least keep our character data, PC players received all those Crowns for each month that they paid to play before ESO went free-to-play AND PC players were able to transfer their PC characters (along with all this rewards) to the consoles.

    How is that fair?! The console players even helped the PC players by already paying to play online, which is why ESO went free-to-play!

    The console players definitely got the short end on this one...

    Uhh... what? I literally cannot believe what I just read.

    ZOS and ZOS alone is to blame for console not being ready when PC launched. For the most part, PC players paid for console's development and for all of the bugs and balancing fixes you're now enjoying. You're playing the game on our dime, and a stupid monkey pet doesn't make up for that. ZOS decided to give 'rewards' to PC players that had subbed for so long to mitigate the backlash they'd receive when they went BTP after insisting for over a year that the game would never use any model other than sub. They milked PC players for their money, and then abandoned them and literally focused on console and only console release for over 6 months. It's hilarious because now console players are starting to encounter the same problems that PC players have been complaining about for 9+ months.

    Since you seem to live in bizarro-land where rational thought is pure ridiculousness, on behalf of PC players, you're welcome. You're welcome for paying for all of the development you now enjoy on console, minus all of the bugs and imbalances we paid-beta tested for you. Feel free to send us all thank you notes in the mail, or free monkey pets.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_ArtG on July 14, 2015 2:37PM
  • Teiji
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    ESO went "free to play"? I'm sorry but this isn't true.

    Expect a polite and concise mod edit due to rules on spreading misinformation and flame bait.

    There is no "favouritism" I'm sincerely sorry to very politely inform you, you may be able to convince yourself it exists, but that doesn't mean it's so.

    I could convince myself that the colour red is blue, but would this make it so?

    Neigh, neiiigh, neigh.
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  • Ace_of_Destiny
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    BigBoi314 wrote: »
    Ace-2112 wrote: »
    As a console player I must say...

    This person does NOT speak for us all.


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    I speak for a LOT though...

    No.

    You don't.

    If you think otherwise you are delusional.

    Nobody elected you "Console Spokesperson".

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  • bertenburnyb16_ESO
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    and because of console players we are still waiting for new content for more than a half year now, dont get me started bro
    atleast you didnt have to pay a year to be beta tester
    Edited by bertenburnyb16_ESO on July 14, 2015 1:24PM
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  • Thumbdunked
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    You realize the Pc players had a bug riddled bot filled game right? The pc players pretty much beta tested this game for a year for consoles with little to no content updates because most of zos's attention was on the console ports if any thing the pc players have been largely neglected. I applaud our PC brethren for sticking with this game.
  • DaveTheMinion
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    War has been declared! :o:'( I am just thankful the game was released on console, I couldn't get to grips with it on PC now age is against me :(;)
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  • BigBoi314
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    So let me get this straight, PC players use the defense of "we paid THEM to do the work their QA team wasn't good enough/too lazy to do." I thought PC was supposed to be superior to consoles...I guess that's just when it comes to the hardware and not the operator.
  • BBSooner
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    What a terrible thought. 2/10

    Please think through the next one.
    Edited by BBSooner on July 14, 2015 1:42PM
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    ... Is this .... Is this a real topic? Are we really here?
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  • Mighty_oakk
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    The game is buy-to-play. And it were PC Beta players, which goes back to 2013, were the ones who helped the Developers find bugs, provide feedback and whatnot - which in the end helped the consoles.

    You sir failed
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    I propose that we stop responding to the OP and start responding to the thread title instead. What would you say to, or ask of, the developers if you had their ears?
    Edited by Reverb on July 14, 2015 1:48PM
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    Reverb wrote: »
    236612d1306344352-got-wreck-today-27088d1258511571-lee-ermy-show-fragmentation-round-hijack-deniro.jpg

    I propose that we stop responding to the OP and start responding to the thread title instead. What would you say to, or ask of, the developers if you had their ears?

    If I had their ears it wouldn't matter what I said...they wouldn't be able to hear it.
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    Ace-2112 wrote: »
    Reverb wrote: »
    236612d1306344352-got-wreck-today-27088d1258511571-lee-ermy-show-fragmentation-round-hijack-deniro.jpg

    I propose that we stop responding to the OP and start responding to the thread title instead. What would you say to, or ask of, the developers if you had their ears?

    If I had their ears it wouldn't matter what I said...they wouldn't be able to hear it.

    That's cool, quibbling over semantics is still an improvement over the original topic.
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    I just want a good, stable game for all players - regardless of their platform.

    Also new content soon please.
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  • BigBoi314
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    Some of your responses did make it sound like they used you guys to do the work for them, though. I do want that monkey pet, which I'm surprised console players couldn't get even though we had a beta of our own.

    On a serious note, what do you guys want to say to the devs?

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_ArtG on July 14, 2015 2:42PM
  • DaveTheMinion
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    I just want a good, stable game for all players - regardless of their platform.

    Also new content soon please.

    I vote for most responsible answer :p +1
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    To the Developers:

    I'll keep it simple: please bring guild stores back to the Cyrodiil banker. I understand why you took it away, but even we meet your intention of claiming a keep or resource the functionality falls short of what we need. Because guilds are account-wide, and we can play toons from all three alliances in Cyrodiil, but we can only access guild banks for the alliance we are logged into. My best trading guild is AD, it's a drag to always have to leave the war zone to access the store on my DC and EP toons.


    Also - how many cp dp I need to unlock the "door opening" passsive in Cyrodiil? How about not being stuck "in combat" for 2-3 minutes after dying and respawning at a non combat location (like the gate or wayshrine, or an unflagged keep)?
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  • Thumbdunked
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    To the Developers.

    Can you please make a statement on your official forum about wether or not text chat is coming to consoles.
  • Thalmont
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    Ace-2112 wrote: »
    As a console player I must say...

    This person does NOT speak for us all.


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    I second this!

    The only thing that makes me envious of PC is the add-ons, but it's like that for every TES or Fallout game for me, but not in Fallout 4... Wahahaha! :lol:

    Seriously ZOS ask Bethesda to push MS and Sony to allow Add-ons for ESO. If they're allowing mods in Fallout4 why aren't we able to get Add-ons (mods) for ESO. Make it like a trial to see how it goes so the Fallout4 mod stuff can go smoother.
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    BigBoi314 wrote: »
    free-to-play!

    ?!?!?

    Its PAY to play when will ppl learn the difference
    Edited by BuggeX on July 14, 2015 2:18PM
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    Everyone had the choice to move to console in due course.
    Really all you had to do was wait for the mail from ZOS
    I know that many were waiting to transfer their Toons over.
    Obviously people were playing pre-console and there is not much that could be done.
    So yeah, there are people who have certain gifts/rewards that others don't.
    Lucky, that all it is.
    You just missed the boat slightly.

    Don't worry about these small items, they don't really enhance the game
    Unfortunately they will not release some of them, but then....
    Do you really want a pet Monkey?
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    Griping about the situation won't help.
    Forgoing these items means nothing.
    Obviously I sympathise, but what can you do?

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_ArtG on July 14, 2015 3:09PM
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    BigBoi314 wrote: »
    free-to-play!

    ?!?!?

    Its PAY to play when will ppl learn the difference

    It's actually buy-to-play (b2p). But, again, quibbling over semantics is still better than the original topic.
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  • OneBadHuskerFan
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    BigBoi314 wrote: »

    I speak for a LOT though...

    No, no you don't.

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