@Dradhok thanks to you for understnading my message. Why should I stay in an unhealthy mode for getting a title I dont care about to be.

@Sithisvoid : whta are you telling me about skills ? you can look on my trophy list. I dont have to prove that Im a good gamer with skills, but if you are such a skillfull player. tell me. whta is this emperor about. Be number one ok great. but to be reliant to your hole alliance beacuase they have to conquer the other catsles or whatever. where is the skill ? I dont get it. its pure luck to be not with a bunch of noobs dying everytime. Skills are when you can do it on your own and do it not with 300 other people you are counting on. So dont tell nothing about skills in this game.

@RobDaCool : thanks for your post. Right. No one cares that your are the emperor right now or maybe in 10 years. People who thin that way > thats no life level 100. "southpark mode ON"

@NDwarf : Internetgangster?

@Mighty_oakk yeah skyrim was so easy thats why I was sure TESO will be too. Of course I looked on the trophy list before. but when you read such things like Find all these, find all that chapter 1,2,3... i never thought such BS behind the Emperor. I knew there will be some PVP trophies of course. But first of all I thought that "online" stand for you can explore most of the time tamriel with your friends and so are the trophies. My mistake.

@Septimus_Magna what is this grand overlord trophy about ?

@dday3six you dont understand. This thread is not about getting the platinum as soon as possible. I dont care about time consuming trophies. i dont play such things like HM beacuase of fast trophies. thats not what my thoughts of trophy collector is about. I knew TESO will be a game for hundreds of ours. and thats okay but time consuming trophies ar doable after a long time.

@Paradox no but the name fits the theme perfectly thank

@Riko_Futatabi I was waiting for such a comment like yours really. What are you telling me about "comefort zone". just like I said I knew there will be PVP trophies in it. I do a lot of games hard enough to get the plat. It only depands how they create them. and sorry Emperor ist nothing what people really want. thats the truth. > best party of your comment < Im selfish You know my Intention why I wrote this thread yesterday? Beauce Im only thinking about me ? definitly not. Look on all my sites I posted in my comment. I did this beacuase there are so many people complaining and are dissapointing about this one. and I know no one will do something against it so I had to do it. Alone I could do nothing about it and yes that would be very selfish indeed. Put I have proofs that Im not alone with this so its my Inetention to do something. So dont tell me something about selfishness. Call it tropyh nonsense cause your a not a trophy hunter. If I were you I could say the same. Playing PVP for getting nothing in all these years. Nonsese indeed. There are two types of players. except it or not

First and foremost OP let's call this like it is. A real Trophy Hunter would research the trophies of a game, and if they didn't think they could get them all, they'd move on to the next game, because it's not the particular game experience they are after, but rather the trophies themselves.

You're after 100% for a particular game. This is how you ascertain your fun, however this is a self imposed construct. Neither ZOS or Sony are forcing you to do this. That's why people are calling you selfish. You are doing this to yourself and complaining as if others are doing it to you. So it doesn't matter how many people feel the same way as you, that will not make this endeavor any less selfish.

Perhaps if you actually played PVP you'd understand how to milk AP, and when the best time to chase Emperor was. Did you even bother trying or were you too busy complaining?

@Emperorslayer Grand Overlord is the highest pvp rank (pvp rank 49), it took the most dedicated pvpers over a year of constant pvp to obtain it. This takes a lot more efford to get then Emperor because you can get emp if you pvp constantly for the first couple days after a new camaign starts. The grand overlord rank can only be obtained after by getting insane amounts of AP. There is also an achievement for killing someone with the highest pvp rank.

@dday3six I have not the time compalinig since yesterday cause of study busniness. What are you sayin its not true cause im playing games without getting the trophies also, so its only depentds on which game Im playing and Im not always focus on Trophies. To correct some arguments about my personlaity here . Like I said if I was the only one compalinig I would do nothing about it. Why should I? I only give it a try that maybe ZOE do somethign when someone say somethign about this. Where is the problem? Maye its a little bit selfish because of the 100 but like I said my motivations because there are a lot of people wants this trophy to be remove. So we have a different few about selfishness but thats waht makes us human right ?
I admit I never played PVP before since TESO bu yes I tried. Complainig about something what I have no reason for makes no sense dont you think?

@Septimus_Magna that sound very time consumng to me. thats okay. maybe it will take 1 or 2 years maybe longer I will get it. thats not the problem. Killing someone with the highets PVP rank ? which trophy you mean ?

@r.jan_emailb_16_ESO: I was not sayin that everyone should get this trophy because they will make it so much easier only "more" doable. Remobe ord doable. not getting it easily

@Big_Boss_77 a lot of people have the same plan. wait a few years and then get the emperor beacue a lot of people will stop playing this game. Im not sure about this plan is going to work but I have the same thoughts I must say. A friend of mine told me that on the PC version there was an item or a list where everyone could wrot his name to become emperor one after another. is this still possoble on ps4 ? or maybe in a few years that people will do something like this ?

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

@Emperorslayer Grand Overlord is the highest pvp rank (pvp rank 49), it took the most dedicated pvpers over a year of constant pvp to obtain it. This takes a lot more efford to get then Emperor because you can get emp if you pvp constantly for the first couple days after a new camaign starts. The grand overlord rank can only be obtained after by getting insane amounts of AP. There is also an achievement for killing someone with the highest pvp rank.

Grand Overlord is an in-game achievement, but not a console trophy. Emperor and Master Angler are the only challenging console trophies, but Master Angler just takes time while Emperor requires skill, time and a bit of luck.

Looks like some stereotypes about console players have some sort of truth in them...



(Not even played, not even tried, not really knowing what it is all about, but already complaining that it is too hard/impossible/time-consuming, and considering people who achieved it as "no-lifers". Oh, and none of it is compulsory nor really relevant to gameplay anyway.... but still whining "unfair"... hard to believe, but there it is...)

Still, in case it might ease your sorrow, just know that on PC "former emperor" has become a fairly common title/trophy/achievement, of course not everybody has it but a fair number of players do have it since guilds got organized to have each of their members get to the top leaderboards and resign after a short time to make room for the next one. It's called "emperor farming", and there's no doubt that guilds on console will organize something similar once enough players get there.

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Dradhok wrote: »

I don't think his point is that he is unwilling to work for a trophy but rather trophies should be attainable without playing 300+ hours a month for a slight opportunity to get them. I listened to a certain blogger on YouTube say that you need to attune yourself to getting less sleep before you start your campaign to get emperor. That simply is not a healthy achievement that they've built into the game. Many people criticize online MMOs because they are too addictive and unhealthy, VOS should really take that seriously and make sure their achievements don't perpetuate that belief.

I honestly don't care about the trophy but knowing I will NEVER be able to get that dye really ticks me off. How many of you have read your medieval and renaissance history and know about sumptuary laws? For those of you who don't know, Wikipedia's entry is pretty good:

Sumptuary laws (from Latin sumptuariae leges) are laws that attempt to regulate permitted consumption. Black's Law Dictionary defines them as "Laws made for the purpose of restraining luxury or extravagance, particularly against inordinate expenditures in the matter of apparel, food, furniture, etc."[1] Traditionally, they were laws that regulated and reinforced social hierarchies and morals through restrictions, often depending upon a person's social rank, on permitted clothing, food, and luxury expenditures.

Throughout history, societies have used sumptuary laws for a variety of purposes. They attempted to regulate the balance of trade by limiting the market for expensive imported goods. They were also an easy way to identify social rank and privilege, and often were used for social discrimination.[2]

This frequently meant preventing commoners from imitating the appearance of aristocrats and sometimes also to stigmatize disfavored groups. In the Late Middle Ages, sumptuary laws were instituted as a way for the nobility to cap the conspicuous consumption of the prosperous bourgeoisie of medieval cities, and they continued to be used for these purposes well into the 17th century.[2]

Essentially, ZOS has set things up so that we are a world of "haves" and "have-nots" with the "aristocracy" comprised of people who will pretty much dedicate most of their waking hours to playing this game. Those who are NOT part of ESO's aristocracy are forbidden from wearing any clothing that might cause people to "mistake" them for members of the nobility. They have decided it's very important that the "peasants" always LOOK like peasants and be constantly reminded of their lower status which they have no hope of ever breaking free of. Lots of fun, right? Not so much ZoS.

Now I'm not advocating for a socialist utopia wherein ZOS simply gives everyone EVERYTHING so we can all be "equal." But I DO think it was an absolutely terrible idea to tie dyes to the achievements. Every single achievement in this game should have an associated trophy, from the silly to the sublime. They should be bound but sellable to vendors. Putting dyes in, in place of that, was an incredibly lazy move. I mean really, something like a dye is magically controlled and your character can never make or buy it? C'mon ZoS...be smart and make it a gold sink. Let people buy the dyes they want at the dye stations with in game gold. This way you still have to play the game to achieve them because you have to in order to make the gold in the first place. But then at least they are all achievable goals and people can use their time to get what they want.

And that armor you wear to fight Molly Balls? That should totally be a costume you get to keep that shows up on your costume tab after you do the fight.

What you're proposing is essentially to make the true "hardcore" achievements in the game have 0 value. Might as well go do a few quests rather than fight hundreds of players to become emperor. I'd say for everyone who's not an RP:er (which would be a massive majority) there must be a reward for it to be worth attaining.

You can live without that specific hue of that specific colour, I'm sure.

I could IF there were an achieveable hue CLOSE to it. There isn't. The only way this would make the "true "hardcore" achievements in the game have 0 value" is if there were no other reward for getting them. Dyes should have NEVER been that reward. Those really and truly hard achievements should have some AWESOME trophies that are actually TANGIBLE. COSTUMES would have been great. TITLES would have been great. A nice chest full of gold would have been great. In fact, for things like Emperor and then MORE difficult PvP and PvE end game achievements, all 3 should apply. ZOS gave us the begged for dye system...and then made all the best colors in it inaccessible to MOST players. How does that help the game again? I'm NOT saying difficult achievements should not have outstanding rewards. They totally SHOULD. I am saying that using DYES for those rewards was a TERRIBLE choice.

It's already easily accesible, all you need is time. No need to be good or anything.

This is something console players will have to get used to - in MMOs, not every achievement is attainable by your average Joe. That's how it is. And by achievement I mean actual title/reward/whatever for accomplishing a specific task. Sometimes they stuff some in there that are so ridiculous, so over the top difficult that only a handful of people will ever get it. BUT, that keeps people playing.

Emperor is one of those. That trophy isn't for people like me- it's for people with more free time, more interest and less ADD =D I won't sit here and say that if I had 16 hours a day I'd get Emperor... nope, I have too much of an "ooo Shiny!" complex. Anyone who does get it deserves that trophy, IMO, cause it seems like a pretty miserable task to get.

No. leave it as is.

want the Platinum, become Emperor. earn it.

If you really care that much about it then take a week vacation time at the start of a new campaign and no life it.

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You argue you have a life but complain about an "unachievable" trophy that holds no value in life.

Exactly what I was thinking. He cries about not being to get a trophy because he has a life, but he is crying about a trophy.

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Good luck with your quest man, but there never going to remove that trophy. This I one game I'd love to 100% but that trophy is a killer, simply because of the amount of time you have to put in and you have you beat the other really good players (who have come from PC with their Godly characters) but what can you do.. I guess I'll just enjoy the game until I either earn it or they remove it.

Yes lets make everyone happy by giving a trophy to all that participate!
Forget that stuff! They are Challenges/achievement that they reward you with a trophy for completing. If you can't put the effort in or are not good enough to obtain the achievement, challenge or trophy; then you DON'T deserve it!

Sorry to be blunt about it, but not everyone makes the big leagues and that doesn't mean we should make things easier for those that can't make the cut.

(not gonna lie I was about to drop some definitions. Until I saw someone already did lol)

They'll never remove it. Either you'll have to spend all your time racking up enough AP to hit #1 in your faction and then capture the six keeps, or just chalk it up as a lost cause. Not even worth the trouble.