The Shied Bashing in PvP is too strong!

Baconjedi · July 2015

So I just got back to doing Cyrodiil again after I want to say half a year from being away from it, and I still tend to get shield bashed in the face by someone and it deals more damage than I thought it should. I'm pretty sure there is a decent build somewhere in the game where you shield bash for days and do great damage, which is quite irritating.
I am also aware that I need to "git gud", but come on... how would you like it if someone was bashing your face in with a shield and you're just standing there like "WELL DAMN I'D LOVE TO HIT YOU BUT THAT SHIELD YOU HAVE THERE SEEMS TO BE SMACKING ME IN THE FACE."

leepalmer95 · July 2015

Block? , Dodge, do anything but stand there, shield bashing got nerfed didn't it?

Baconjedi · July 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Block? , Dodge, do anything but stand there, shield bashing got nerfed didn't it?

This certain dude I was dueling with in game had some sort of charge build going on with his class, and no matter how much I dodged and ran, he always had enough stamina to charge at me and break another tooth.
It did, but it's still outrageous I think.
One thing that I'm doing to fight back, is leveling my Bow skill-line since I get my skull bashed in when I'm in melee.
The joys of being a Aedric Spear Templar.

tordr86b16_ESO · July 2015

temps can pull 20k single target dps by spamming ONE ability.

Tolmos · July 2015

Go 2h... nothing beats 2h. =D

dodgehopper_ESO · July 2015

Shield Charge, Aedric Spear Charge, and Two hander Charge are all called gap closers and can hurt you if you try to run away. Running away uses stamina, their ability uses stamina only it hurts you. Bashing is the right mouse click button used to interrupt. The One Hand and Shield active ability called Power Bash / Reverberating Bash is an active skill and a debuff which lowers your healing and stuns you. Most people don't get bashed to death, but a Reverberating Bash is a good way to debuff someone before hitting them with something else.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · July 2015

Baconjedi wrote: »

So I just got back to doing Cyrodiil again after I want to say half a year from being away from it, and I still tend to get shield bashed in the face by someone and it deals more damage than I thought it should. I'm pretty sure there is a decent build somewhere in the game where you shield bash for days and do great damage, which is quite irritating.
I am also aware that I need to "git gud", but come on... how would you like it if someone was bashing your face in with a shield and you're just standing there like "WELL DAMN I'D LOVE TO HIT YOU BUT THAT SHIELD YOU HAVE THERE SEEMS TO BE SMACKING ME IN THE FACE."

Your opponent probably used a keyboard macro err animation cancellation exploit err attack weaving.
Cyrodiil is a fragfest mate. Forget about it. Nothing to do with slam, bash or shield attacks.

Animation cancelling, especially when you bind the whole attack weaving into a single mouse or keyboard key, has screwed the game. Those who use it, do not acknowledge the existence that is happening, while the others are talking about "skill".

Lets hope the rumours are correct and ZoS fixes this CANCER which is killing the game for over a year now, with the upcoming patches.

GaldorP · July 2015

Bashing is strong when it interrupts a spell. Otherwise it deals very little damage. One-hand and shield builds are very effective in 1v1 situations, in general. They have better defense than any other weapon skill line offers without losing too much offensive power (they can always use another weapon on the 2nd bar). I wouldn't recommend bows for duelling. They're more useful as support dps from a safe position in larger battles and of course can be used for ganking (20k+ damage from stealth with the right build and opener combo).

F7sus4 · July 2015

Baconjedi wrote: »

how would you like it if someone was bashing your face in with a shield and you're just standing there like "WELL DAMN I'D LOVE TO HIT YOU BUT THAT SHIELD YOU HAVE THERE SEEMS TO BE SMACKING ME IN THE FACE."

I'm sorry, but bashing is not allowed at the forums (Code of Conduct), therefore I need to report you.

duncan_cougarpreeb18_ESO · July 2015

GaldorP wrote: »

Bashing is strong when it interrupts a spell. Otherwise it deals very little damage.

You are _so_ wrong about that. Saw it myself how that someone killed several Cyro mages with 3 bashes alone one after another (without them even targeting him once) ... "little" damage this ain't.

Given that you can shield rush a ranged attacker, and bashing not only stuns but disorients in melee, as well as protects against magic attack, this way of fighting does not really have any valid general counter, except not fighting or dodging to oblivion or slow ground effects (none of which would be fatal to the basher)

Kronosphere · July 2015

duncan_cougarpreeb18_ESO wrote: »

GaldorP wrote: »

Bashing is strong when it interrupts a spell. Otherwise it deals very little damage.

You are _so_ wrong about that. Saw it myself how that someone killed several Cyro mages with 3 bashes alone one after another (without them even targeting him once) ... "little" damage this ain't.

Given that you can shield rush a ranged attacker, and bashing not only stuns but disorients in melee, as well as protects against magic attack, this way of fighting does not really have any valid general counter, except not fighting or dodging to oblivion or slow ground effects (none of which would be fatal to the basher)

orrr blocking till they run out of stam? or spamming multi hit abilities like twin shades or rapid strikes as they are blocking while bashing (this will rapidly drain stam) not to mention it does like 2k dps..... is this a forum from the distant past? cuz like... might as well be saying light attack is op? what? is this an alternate dimension??? so confused! curse you sheogorath!!!

tinythinker · July 2015

No joke, I was thinking of respeccing to a shield-bashing build. Maybe I should talk to the person who beat the OP's face in... I used to love the old bash last spring/summer before the nerfs, but there is Bashing Focus passive from the Champion System to reduce the cost of bashing attacks plus that Mighty passive to increase physical damage.