Alphashado wrote: »They changed more than those two, they also raised the neckline on many of the outfits.
Also it is great you have your vision of what attractive is, others differ and this game could easily accommodate more than just your vision without making it a burlesque, why is that such an outlandish request?
This is a US based game. I don't think people in this country realize just how Puritan our society really is. The rest of the world does... lol
We aren't Puritan. We are terrified of lawsuits. There are two Lawyers in this country for every one person that might be "offended".
ZOS doesn't want to get sued and/or they don't want to deal with any one of the thousand special interest groups that exist in this country that will boycot their product at the slightest whim.
Whether you agree or disagree, I really think its that simple.
Personally, I think it's kinda sad.
Alphashado wrote: »They changed more than those two, they also raised the neckline on many of the outfits.
Also it is great you have your vision of what attractive is, others differ and this game could easily accommodate more than just your vision without making it a burlesque, why is that such an outlandish request?
This is a US based game. I don't think people in this country realize just how Puritan our society really is. The rest of the world does... lol
We aren't Puritan. We are terrified of lawsuits. There are two Lawyers in this country for every one person that might be "offended".
ZOS doesn't want to get sued and/or they don't want to deal with any one of the thousand special interest groups that exist in this country that will boycot their product at the slightest whim.
Whether you agree or disagree, I really think its that simple.
Personally, I think it's kinda sad.
BurtFreeman wrote: »BurtFreeman wrote: »if you like bobs, *** and bottoms is better you play a modded single player tes.
i would not like to play a game with nude wonders womans: i mean i could really hurt them with my javellin!
if you like a sexy game play a sexy game, but once in combat it do not really help have uncover bobs and bottoms.
thought a sexy inns content will be appreciated a lot.
The #1 lesson MMO forums have taught me: All women should be covered from head to toe at all times. Anything less is indecent and could lead to impure, lustful thoughts!
infidel!
this is merchandizing choice, to have almost a big audience of potential customer.
it we turn the game in sexy content they may not be able to sell the product in some country. that's it.
Unfortunately I find it very unlikely the choice was a capitalist one, as evidence for my skepticism see this respectful lady's comment.slipHAZARD wrote: »
I miss this armor set and the few disguises that were like it. I am a female player and I wish they would bring them back. Even if they were disguises/costumes only that we could wear and see instead of our armor. It would really liven things up, at least for me instead of seeing the same boring thing all the time.
I am pretty confident in stating the choice was not one based on market sales but instead based on current cultural politically correct busy bodies.
ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »Honestly, I think the ridiculous armor is the giant tank-suits that you can't move around in, can't swim with etc. Gladiators had the right of it- less is more.
We're adventurers. We're not knights riding on horseback after being painstakingly placed in our saddles by squires who armored us up beforehand; we run, we jump, we climb mountains, swim, etc etc. The most realistic armor we could have is to either go all medium (no light or heavy armor at all) or to go with a sports-bra style breastplate with a bikini-like plate bottom to protect the vital parts. This is for both women AND men. Wear whatever else you want with it- a shirt and pants or whatever, but any more metal than that and your adventuring is going to, quite frankly, suck.
So to me, as far as I'm concerned, the "scantily clad" armor is infinitely more realistic than most of the heavy armor choices we have right now.
When you die of sepsis because a dagger nicked your stomach and spilled your entire intestinal tract... I will be the one laughing over your dying body and taking all of your stuff.
Right, because sepsis exists in ESO, as does looting the corpse of another player.Kind of a nonsense statement. Moreover, sepsis would take a while to kill, whereas you are speaking of someone being disemboweled. That's the best argument you could come up with?
Its not the disembowlement that kills you... it is sepsis.
And I was being slightly overdramatic.... but the point remains... you do not want to go into combat wearing a sports bra breastblate....
@ch.ris317b14_ESO
Right, and the point is that this is a GAME and a FANTASY game at that! What people on earth actually did, or do plays only the smallest part, which is just to make it familiar enough to us as players to recognize. ESO is not a Mediaval Earth Warfare Reenactment Simulation. It is a FANTASY GAME! Give us some fantasy beyond the magic!
Suspension of disbelief only goes so far... especially when a game models characters in incredible detail, and has a much more 'realistic' combat model than most mmos....
you want dark elf fantasy sex, go play wow.
ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »BurtFreeman wrote: »BurtFreeman wrote: »if you like bobs, *** and bottoms is better you play a modded single player tes.
i would not like to play a game with nude wonders womans: i mean i could really hurt them with my javellin!
if you like a sexy game play a sexy game, but once in combat it do not really help have uncover bobs and bottoms.
thought a sexy inns content will be appreciated a lot.
The #1 lesson MMO forums have taught me: All women should be covered from head to toe at all times. Anything less is indecent and could lead to impure, lustful thoughts!
infidel!
this is merchandizing choice, to have almost a big audience of potential customer.
it we turn the game in sexy content they may not be able to sell the product in some country. that's it.
Unfortunately I find it very unlikely the choice was a capitalist one, as evidence for my skepticism see this respectful lady's comment.slipHAZARD wrote: »
I miss this armor set and the few disguises that were like it. I am a female player and I wish they would bring them back. Even if they were disguises/costumes only that we could wear and see instead of our armor. It would really liven things up, at least for me instead of seeing the same boring thing all the time.
I am pretty confident in stating the choice was not one based on market sales but instead based on current cultural politically correct busy bodies.
I hate political correctness but come on..... thing were getting pretty ridiculous...(gaming as a whole, not ESO specifically) with the dudes too.... spikes sticking out of everywhere making it onviously more dangerous to the wearer than what theyd be fighting.
Why not have some realism with armor?
Honestly, I'm waiting for somebody to finally implement a full anatomical model into an MMO combat system... it'd be awesome to cut somebody's arm off, slide a dagger into the visor hole, or bludgeon a gaping dent into the chest. .... or see the body actually burn alive, see the armor melt from the fireball, or skin melt from the toxic cloud.... just because its fantasy doesn't mean feeling and looking real is not better and more immersive
ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »Honestly, I think the ridiculous armor is the giant tank-suits that you can't move around in, can't swim with etc. Gladiators had the right of it- less is more.
We're adventurers. We're not knights riding on horseback after being painstakingly placed in our saddles by squires who armored us up beforehand; we run, we jump, we climb mountains, swim, etc etc. The most realistic armor we could have is to either go all medium (no light or heavy armor at all) or to go with a sports-bra style breastplate with a bikini-like plate bottom to protect the vital parts. This is for both women AND men. Wear whatever else you want with it- a shirt and pants or whatever, but any more metal than that and your adventuring is going to, quite frankly, suck.
So to me, as far as I'm concerned, the "scantily clad" armor is infinitely more realistic than most of the heavy armor choices we have right now.
When you die of sepsis because a dagger nicked your stomach and spilled your entire intestinal tract... I will be the one laughing over your dying body and taking all of your stuff.
Right, because sepsis exists in ESO, as does looting the corpse of another player.Kind of a nonsense statement. Moreover, sepsis would take a while to kill, whereas you are speaking of someone being disemboweled. That's the best argument you could come up with?
Its not the disembowlement that kills you... it is sepsis.
And I was being slightly overdramatic.... but the point remains... you do not want to go into combat wearing a sports bra breastblate....
@ch.ris317b14_ESO
Right, and the point is that this is a GAME and a FANTASY game at that! What people on earth actually did, or do plays only the smallest part, which is just to make it familiar enough to us as players to recognize. ESO is not a Mediaval Earth Warfare Reenactment Simulation. It is a FANTASY GAME! Give us some fantasy beyond the magic!
Suspension of disbelief only goes so far... especially when a game models characters in incredible detail, and has a much more 'realistic' combat model than most mmos....
you want dark elf fantasy sex, go play wow.
I'm sorry you have such a limited imagination.
ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »Honestly, I think the ridiculous armor is the giant tank-suits that you can't move around in, can't swim with etc. Gladiators had the right of it- less is more.
We're adventurers. We're not knights riding on horseback after being painstakingly placed in our saddles by squires who armored us up beforehand; we run, we jump, we climb mountains, swim, etc etc. The most realistic armor we could have is to either go all medium (no light or heavy armor at all) or to go with a sports-bra style breastplate with a bikini-like plate bottom to protect the vital parts. This is for both women AND men. Wear whatever else you want with it- a shirt and pants or whatever, but any more metal than that and your adventuring is going to, quite frankly, suck.
So to me, as far as I'm concerned, the "scantily clad" armor is infinitely more realistic than most of the heavy armor choices we have right now.
When you die of sepsis because a dagger nicked your stomach and spilled your entire intestinal tract... I will be the one laughing over your dying body and taking all of your stuff.
Right, because sepsis exists in ESO, as does looting the corpse of another player.Kind of a nonsense statement. Moreover, sepsis would take a while to kill, whereas you are speaking of someone being disemboweled. That's the best argument you could come up with?
Its not the disembowlement that kills you... it is sepsis.
And I was being slightly overdramatic.... but the point remains... you do not want to go into combat wearing a sports bra breastblate....
@ch.ris317b14_ESO
Right, and the point is that this is a GAME and a FANTASY game at that! What people on earth actually did, or do plays only the smallest part, which is just to make it familiar enough to us as players to recognize. ESO is not a Mediaval Earth Warfare Reenactment Simulation. It is a FANTASY GAME! Give us some fantasy beyond the magic!
Suspension of disbelief only goes so far... especially when a game models characters in incredible detail, and has a much more 'realistic' combat model than most mmos....
you want dark elf fantasy sex, go play wow.
I'm sorry you have such a limited imagination.
I have an imagination you wouldn't beleive... but that does not mean I do not thoroughly enjoy more realism up to a point in my games.
Like I said... anatomical modeling would be amazing in a fantasy setting with fireballs, ice spears, toxic clouds, and giant bugs everywhere.... just like it is in the movies.
The cinematic presentation of Lord of the Rings is probably the perfect mix between handcrafted artistry and historical authenticity.... and there is a lot of similarities between their style and a lot of the ESO armors.
ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »
Honestly, I'm waiting for somebody to finally implement a full anatomical model into an MMO combat system... it'd be awesome to cut somebody's arm off, slide a dagger into the visor hole, or bludgeon a gaping dent into the chest. .... or see the body actually burn alive, see the armor melt from the fireball, or skin melt from the toxic cloud.... just because its fantasy doesn't mean feeling and looking real is not better and more immersive
ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »
Honestly, I'm waiting for somebody to finally implement a full anatomical model into an MMO combat system... it'd be awesome to cut somebody's arm off, slide a dagger into the visor hole, or bludgeon a gaping dent into the chest. .... or see the body actually burn alive, see the armor melt from the fireball, or skin melt from the toxic cloud.... just because its fantasy doesn't mean feeling and looking real is not better and more immersive
That sounds really horrific.
I'll just take the loincloths and chainmail bikinis :-P Non-realism sounds more fun lol
ch.ris317b14_ESO wrote: »
Honestly, I'm waiting for somebody to finally implement a full anatomical model into an MMO combat system... it'd be awesome to cut somebody's arm off, slide a dagger into the visor hole, or bludgeon a gaping dent into the chest. .... or see the body actually burn alive, see the armor melt from the fireball, or skin melt from the toxic cloud.... just because its fantasy doesn't mean feeling and looking real is not better and more immersive
That sounds really horrific.
I'll just take the loincloths and chainmail bikinis :-P Non-realism sounds more fun lol
Exactly. The game is supposed to be fun, not bring on a PTSD episode.
Don't worry. The next Carl of daddy game or whatever the stupid fps game comes out, they'll be gone.
I hate dealing with snot nosed children and teens too. Best thing right now is to block them.
Sorry you're having this problem.
BurtFreeman wrote: »i don think sexual content is the point of puritanism or bigotry diatribe at this moment:
we live in a multi-racial and multi-religious society, and what is make a nice co-existence is the respect,
respect of the minority, respect of the culture, respect of ideology, respect of religion, and so on...
so few of us will like to see sexy content in eso, well, as this game is an mmo, i'm thinking if my pleasure is going to be a treat for someone, because, may be my neighbour, are not going to be happy with this stuff.
BurtFreeman wrote: »i don think sexual content is the point of puritanism or bigotry diatribe at this moment:
we live in a multi-racial and multi-religious society, and what is make a nice co-existence is the respect,
respect of the minority, respect of the culture, respect of ideology, respect of religion, and so on...
so few of us will like to see sexy content in eso, well, as this game is an mmo, i'm thinking if my pleasure is going to be a treat for someone, because, may be my neighbour, are not going to be happy with this stuff.
BurtFreeman wrote: »i don think sexual content is the point of puritanism or bigotry diatribe at this moment:
we live in a multi-racial and multi-religious society, and what is make a nice co-existence is the respect,
respect of the minority, respect of the culture, respect of ideology, respect of religion, and so on...
so few of us will like to see sexy content in eso, well, as this game is an mmo, i'm thinking if my pleasure is going to be a treat for someone, because, may be my neighbour, are not going to be happy with this stuff.
The first part of your statement is in conflict with the last part.
It IS a very diverse game, with a diverse group of people. These people will want different things, come from different cultures and consider different things to be "inappropriate". Not every society is as puritan as ours, and even among our society there are those who do not consider the human body (male or female) to be some evil taboo that needs to be covered, head to toe, in shivering shame. Some folks just look at clothing as a way to A) Express themselves B ) not get arrested for indecent exposure.
That's where the diversity thing comes into play. Not everyone wants to see people running around in loincloths, but not everyone wants to be limited to being an Amish Knight. There should be options for everyone. And if you run into a player who you find to be "unsavory" and who offends your sensibilities with their loose demeanor and clothing... walk the other way!
BurtFreeman wrote: »i don think sexual content is the point of puritanism or bigotry diatribe at this moment:
we live in a multi-racial and multi-religious society, and what is make a nice co-existence is the respect,
respect of the minority, respect of the culture, respect of ideology, respect of religion, and so on...
so few of us will like to see sexy content in eso, well, as this game is an mmo, i'm thinking if my pleasure is going to be a treat for someone, because, may be my neighbour, are not going to be happy with this stuff.
I understand you can't please everyone, and you also do not want to offend anyone, but it's an "M" rated game. "M" for "Mature" as in, "Adult" as in, the equivalent of an R rated movie. If you're offended by R rated movies, don't see them. If you're offended by an M rated game, don't play it. Simple, from my perspective. It's an M rated fantasy game, that sort of touches on drug and alcohol use ... like an after school special.
You like this ?
As far as revealing armor in game, I say sure, so long as it's relegated to cloth armor only. That way it makes a bit of sense for it to be relatively unprotected; and before you go clamoring that's it's magically protected that's not how magic works in the ESO universe. Only jewelry can be enchanted to provide protection here.
As far as revealing armor in game, I say sure, so long as it's relegated to cloth armor only. That way it makes a bit of sense for it to be relatively unprotected; and before you go clamoring that's it's magically protected that's not how magic works in the ESO universe. Only jewelry can be enchanted to provide protection here.
As far as revealing armor in game, I say sure, so long as it's relegated to cloth armor only. That way it makes a bit of sense for it to be relatively unprotected; and before you go clamoring that's it's magically protected that's not how magic works in the ESO universe. Only jewelry can be enchanted to provide protection here.
slipHAZARD wrote: »
I miss this armor set and the few disguises that were like it. I am a female player and I wish they would bring them back. Even if they were disguises/costumes only that we could wear and see instead of our armor. It would really liven things up, at least for me instead of seeing the same boring thing all the time.