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ZOS's Master Plan
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Step 1. Announce the Increase in Veteran Rank without any content to support the increase.
Step 2. Ignore the community feedback, cook up lame excuses for the increase.
Step 3. Launch new exp potion.
Step 4. Increase the VR cap to 16.
Step 5. Sell Exp boost potions for real money.
Profit $$$
Nick"konkle" and dime your fans that's how you keep your player base "playing".
Step 2. Ignore the community feedback, cook up lame excuses for the increase.
Step 3. Launch new exp potion.
Step 4. Increase the VR cap to 16.
Step 5. Sell Exp boost potions for real money.
Profit $$$
Nick"konkle" and dime your fans that's how you keep your player base "playing".
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✭I stopped reading at step 1. There will be content to support the increase to VR16.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The ranks are coming with the next large update.
The next large update has Imperial City. New content.Sweetrolls for all!
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Don't mistake that for me saying new ranks is a good thing. But op stated no new content for them and new content is coming with them.
The thing is though people will not be happy with it as it is grouping content like Craglorn, and that did not go down well.
Sweetrolls for all!
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Don't mistake that for me saying new ranks is a good thing. But op stated no new content for them and new content is coming with them.
The thing is though people will not be happy with it as it is grouping content like Craglorn, and that did not go down well.
I was under the impression no new content was coming with the increase from a few forum-goers. Doesn't matter tho, people have voiced their disgust with VR ranks since it got upped from 10 to 12 and onwards. There is absolutely no need to add new ranks for the new content. Just admit it ZOS, you just want to cash out on the EXP potions.
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New content hinging entirely on PvP and often locked out when your alliance doesn't control the keeps. Good plan.The ranks are coming with the next large update.
The next large update has Imperial City. New content.
Edited by Rosveen on July 3, 2015 12:58AM2 -
Mitchblue✭✭✭✭Anyone who buys potion for real money is just dumb and have no one to blame but themselves.Anyone else rooting for Molag Bal?0
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it does matter as it is mis information like a lot of your posts around this subject if you cant get your fact straight before spewing bile and foaming at the mouth at least keep it off the forumstordr86b16_ESO wrote: »
Don't mistake that for me saying new ranks is a good thing. But op stated no new content for them and new content is coming with them.
The thing is though people will not be happy with it as it is grouping content like Craglorn, and that did not go down well.
I was under the impression no new content was coming with the increase from a few forum-goers. Doesn't matter tho, people have voiced their disgust with VR ranks since it got upped from 10 to 12 and onwards. There is absolutely no need to add new ranks for the new content. Just admit it ZOS, you just want to cash out on the EXP potions.
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MrTtheDK✭✭✭WTF Zenimax...Why is there a needed increase to vet ranks? There is a champion system for a reason.Main:
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it does matter as it is mis information like a lot of your posts around this subject if you cant get your fact straight before spewing bile and foaming at the mouth at least keep it off the forumstordr86b16_ESO wrote: »
Don't mistake that for me saying new ranks is a good thing. But op stated no new content for them and new content is coming with them.
The thing is though people will not be happy with it as it is grouping content like Craglorn, and that did not go down well.
I was under the impression no new content was coming with the increase from a few forum-goers. Doesn't matter tho, people have voiced their disgust with VR ranks since it got upped from 10 to 12 and onwards. There is absolutely no need to add new ranks for the new content. Just admit it ZOS, you just want to cash out on the EXP potions.
You got it backwards. I was misinformed, big difference.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Gear power is currently bound to rank. Want powerful new gear for new challenges/rewards for completing new content? It comes with new veteran ranks until the VR system can be fully replaced. This was explained in the interview, regardless of whether one likes it or not.❤Experienced, new, returner?❤ Help keep ESO's community strong ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ -- share what you love about the game, offer constructive feedback, and make friends.ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ
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✭tinythinker wrote: »Gear power is currently bound to rank. Want powerful new gear for new challenges/rewards for completing new content? It comes with new veteran ranks until the VR system can be fully replaced. This was explained in the interview, regardless of whether one likes it or not.
It doesn't sound like they have any plans on removing thexX_BLUDWULF_Xx wrote: »
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Except for the repeated confirmation that they are working on it.tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »tinythinker wrote: »Gear power is currently bound to rank. Want powerful new gear for new challenges/rewards for completing new content? It comes with new veteran ranks until the VR system can be fully replaced. This was explained in the interview, regardless of whether one likes it or not.
It doesn't sound like they have any plans on removing the
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✭Veteran Rank System
We’ve been listening to your feedback about ESO’s Veteran Rank content. Some of the issues are that it’s too much of a departure from the 1-50 experience, it’s much more “grindy,” it can be too difficult, and the rewards don’t match the effort you have to put in to progress. I’m very happy to say that we’ll be making a series of announcements (starting at QuakeCon) that will address problems with the Veteran System in ESO, leading to a much more compelling high-level PvE experience for everyone.
In the interim, we’ve implemented some balance changes to content in post-50 zones that will make it much more like the content from levels 1-50. Our goal is to remove the feeling of “I have just hit a wall of difficulty” that many of you have commented on—you’ll be able to solo much more easily.
One of the guiding principles of our Veteran gameplay was to encourage people (not force them) to group. We wanted people to be able to solo to max level, but still wanted you to participate in group content. This principle was the reason we made our post-50 zones more difficult; we wanted you to get together with others and take on tougher challenges. But this hasn’t been well-received. Many of you love the game you played from 1-50, and the Veteran-level zones are too much of a departure from that experience. We know you want the ability to continue participating in solo content as you progress through Veteran Ranks. This will occur over time, but the first few phases look like this:
Phase 1: Make sure the difficulty in Veteran zones ramps up slowly and rarely exceeds what a good player can do on their own. This change came to the live servers on July 7th. By the time you read this, you should be able to play Veteran content the same way you played from 1-50.
Phase 2: Remove the Veteran Points system and have normal experience gains direct the growth of the Veteran System. Also, we’ll increase the amount of XP granted in PvP. This will happen at some point over the summer as we transition to the new system.
Phase 3: Introduce a completely new Veteran System based on new character customization and growth mechanics. We’ll talk more about this in the near future—especially during Quakecon—but for now, be aware that we’re going to make some much-needed changes to post-50 PvE gameplay.
The primary reason for making these changes is to ensure that you have meaningful choices in the post-50 PvE game experience that reinforce the design idea that you can play the way you want to play.
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So, basically, you are arguing that they have no plan to remove the veteran rank system, then link to and quote their plan to remove the veteran system, including Phases One and Two which have already been completed. The Championship System seems to be a part of Phase Three. Of all the things they said they were going to do this time last year, like Wrothgar, Murkmire, Spellcrafting, Imperial City, etc, this is one of the things they have delivered most quickly and concretely despite the complexity and labor involved.tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Many of you love the game you played from 1-50, and the Veteran-level zones are too much of a departure from that experience. We know you want the ability to continue participating in solo content as you progress through Veteran Ranks. This will occur over time, but the first few phases look like this:
Phase 1: Make sure the difficulty in Veteran zones ramps up slowly and rarely exceeds what a good player can do on their own. This change came to the live servers on July 7th. By the time you read this, you should be able to play Veteran content the same way you played from 1-50.
Phase 2: Remove the Veteran Points system and have normal experience gains direct the growth of the Veteran System. Also, we’ll increase the amount of XP granted in PvP. This will happen at some point over the summer as we transition to the new system.
Phase 3: Introduce a completely new Veteran System based on new character customization and growth mechanics. We’ll talk more about this in the near future—especially during Quakecon—but for now, be aware that we’re going to make some much-needed changes to post-50 PvE gameplay.
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2014/07/08/the-road-ahead---july-8
You are free to believe what you want and to decide whether ZOS can be trusted when talking about future plans for ESO, and many people have good reason to be skeptical. But there is actual evidence in-game -- right now -- that they have taken steps to move away from the VR system. Maybe they will eventually change their minds with a new creative director in charge, but their actions so far support their claim that they remain committed to making this change.
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✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »
it does matter as it is mis information like a lot of your posts around this subject if you cant get your fact straight before spewing bile and foaming at the mouth at least keep it off the forumstordr86b16_ESO wrote: »
Don't mistake that for me saying new ranks is a good thing. But op stated no new content for them and new content is coming with them.
The thing is though people will not be happy with it as it is grouping content like Craglorn, and that did not go down well.
I was under the impression no new content was coming with the increase from a few forum-goers. Doesn't matter tho, people have voiced their disgust with VR ranks since it got upped from 10 to 12 and onwards. There is absolutely no need to add new ranks for the new content. Just admit it ZOS, you just want to cash out on the EXP potions.
You got it backwards. I was misinformed, big difference.
not when after its pointed out its still right there in your op1 -
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Kronosphere✭✭✭✭GUYS, i heard they were removing the exp needed to rank up to 850k per vet rank... 1million x 14 is 14 million exp for v14.
16 x 850k = 13.6million its actually less of a grind you idiots. assuming my intel on the 850 was right ofc
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✭Kronosphere wrote: »GUYS, i heard they were removing the exp needed to rank up to 850k per vet rank... 1million x 14 is 14 million exp for v14.
16 x 850k = 13.6million its actually less of a grind you idiots. assuming my intel on the 850 was right ofc
It was easier before they introduced the new system since grinding was the most effective way, it's less effective now except for a very few locations which is prolly going to get nerfed. For a person with 6 or more hours to throw at the game grinding, the increase in vr rank wont be an issue... but for more casual players, the increase will just further increase the gap.
Also, with the new cap... all the gear we have upgraded will be null and void again. If this was a huge expansion with a slew of new content then I could understand the increase, but not the way it's been executed in ESO.Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on July 3, 2015 2:42AM0 -
Sithisvoid✭✭✭✭✭New ranks are good it gets people off sitting on the same old stale builds and forces them out of their comfort zone allowing them to live a little and learn new things. Plenty of new sets and gear coming tooEdited by Sithisvoid on July 3, 2015 3:00AM0 -
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✭Sithisvoid wrote: »New ranks are good it gets people off sitting on the same old stale builds and forces them out of their comfort zone allowing them to live a little and learn new things. Plenty of new sets and gear coming too
You don't need to increase the level cap to achieve this effect. All they have to do is add new skills (hint spellcrafting), change game mechanics, new content with new game mechanics requiring new builds so on and so forth... But why should we bother suggesting optional SOLUTIONS when they can take shortcuts instead like increasing the cap, adding exp boosting potions on the cash shop so we can get through the incredibly boring vr grind.Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on July 3, 2015 3:08AM0 -
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✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Nick"konkle" and dime your fans that's how you keep your player base "playing".
You won't see me sticking up for many current or former representatives of ZOS but Nick K had a great philosophy regarding game development and he explained it in one of his interviews with The Quest Gaming Network. I'll let you explore that episode but in short your assumption of Nick and his contributions to the game are wrong. You'd probably feel pretty bad too because he was very player friendly and just nice.
Chances are the nickle and dimers are still around because why would they leave? After seeing Bethesda's E3 presser it's going to get a lot worse than it already is. They made it very obvious that they intend to publish multiple knock offs of the single player RPG that many hold sacred. One knock off being Elder Hearth Scrolls. Oops! I meant Elder Scrolls Legends but really what's the difference beyond name? The art style even looks the same.
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✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »Nick"konkle" and dime your fans that's how you keep your player base "playing".
You won't see me sticking up for many current or former representatives of ZOS but Nick K had a great philosophy regarding game development and he explained it in one of his interviews with The Quest Gaming Network. I'll let you explore that episode but in short your assumption of Nick and his contributions to the game are wrong. You'd probably feel pretty bad too.
Chances are the nickle and dimers are still around because why would they leave?
It was a phun ^^ Konk was a fun guy. I like him because he went outside the box instead of repeating everything that's already been done in other mmorpg's which is what this industry badly need, new ideas so we can move from this stagnation.Edited by tordr86b16_ESO on July 3, 2015 3:17AM0 -
venomsky✭✭✭new vr means new armor ,new monster sets,new pvp boxes , start everything from beginning who wants that?0
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