Gold seems to be hard to come by

TheShadowScout · June 2015

Gold is hard at first to make legally. Much easier with trading, or being a careful burglar...
At veteran ranks, you'll make a decent gold flow without even trying hard, just by quest rewards and selling loot. And much more if you do try...

And finally... the game doesn't have all that many gold sinks, backpack upgrades, bank upgrades, Horse and riding... once you have all those, you'll only spend on the occasional guild vendor purchase, but otherwise it'll start piling up (unless you pay for a guild vendor location bid, but those who have cause to do usually make more gold back then they spend - or stop selling stuff I suppose). If you're an altaholic, well, then at least packback and horse will be per character, but even so...

I wouldn't let the gold thing worry you. Just take it in stride, read all the helpful comments above if you care, and remember now and then that it will eventually be no problem even if you don't go for guild sales or stealing everything that's not nailed down (though latter is really good when it comes to finding crafting motivs, just sayin

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GreySix · June 2015

Early in the game (Levels 1 through 30), gold seems to be scarce, unless you're an accomplished guild trader.

I've never had a lot, but once I bought a horse (back when they still cost a lot), didn't really have much use for it, since I could craft just about anything I wanted.

Edit: As others stated, if you're an accomplished in-game crook, you can steal goods and make some decent coin.

Sandmanninja · June 2015

In the lower, early, starting levels, gold is hard to come by. I often give new players (COMPLETELY new, not just a new toon) 500-1000g and a set of white/green gear for their level and 4-5 levels above their current level (with Training - if I have time, I go to a hidden crafting station to give them a set bonus). However, the higher level you are, it seems the more gold and loot the mobs drop.

I keep about 2k on me at all times. In case I see something in zone chat for sale, or see something at a guild vendor, or need repairs.

I run a dungeon or do some quests (ALWAYS killing every mob I see while questing, and looting) and I usually dump 5k into the bank at the end of the day.

I vendor the white stuff, deconstruct greens and blues, and either auction or deconstruct the purples.

UrQuan · June 2015

Alphashado wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

kylerjalen wrote: »

d3nbark3r wrote: »

I have found this exact problem.

I could join a large guild but I don't see why I should be forced to join a guild with hundreds of people I don't even know in person, it weirds me out thinking for all I know these people could have been to prison for serious criminal charges for all I know and I wouldn't even know.

Wait... what?

lmao... omg that is funny stuff. I am still giggling 5 mins after I read it.

@d3nbark3r Just steer clear of any trading guilds with names like "Correctional Unit Trading Empire" or "Reformed Felons Market Plaza" and you should be ok.

lol

But "Association of Totally Legitimate Businessmen" is OK, right?

Yeah, you are correct. This game is loaded with rich, evil businessmen that have nothing better to do than run imaginary trading empires in an imaginary game, for imaginary gold. How could I have forgotten such an obvious fact.

/sarcasm off.

Go ahead and assume it's fair to think trading guilds are all a bunch of felons and criminals if it floats your boat though. Most of us know better. And I don't care enough anymore to argue about it because conspiracy theorists will never change their minds and they are only happy when someone else is to blame.

You know that was just a joke and a slightly obscured reference to this, right:
http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Legitimate_Businessman's_Social_Club

Alphashado · June 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

kylerjalen wrote: »

d3nbark3r wrote: »

I have found this exact problem.

I could join a large guild but I don't see why I should be forced to join a guild with hundreds of people I don't even know in person, it weirds me out thinking for all I know these people could have been to prison for serious criminal charges for all I know and I wouldn't even know.

Wait... what?

lmao... omg that is funny stuff. I am still giggling 5 mins after I read it.

@d3nbark3r Just steer clear of any trading guilds with names like "Correctional Unit Trading Empire" or "Reformed Felons Market Plaza" and you should be ok.

lol

But "Association of Totally Legitimate Businessmen" is OK, right?

Yeah, you are correct. This game is loaded with rich, evil businessmen that have nothing better to do than run imaginary trading empires in an imaginary game, for imaginary gold. How could I have forgotten such an obvious fact.

/sarcasm off.

Go ahead and assume it's fair to think trading guilds are all a bunch of felons and criminals if it floats your boat though. Most of us know better. And I don't care enough anymore to argue about it because conspiracy theorists will never change their minds and they are only happy when someone else is to blame.

You know that was just a joke and a slightly obscured reference to this, right:
http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Legitimate_Businessman's_Social_Club

lol sorry. I did not know it was a joke. I'm just getting so accustomed to defending all the friendly trading guilds out there that I jump the gun sometimes. My mistake

God-eater · June 2015

DenMoria wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

What is this "Justice System" I keep hearing about.

I'm going to go look that one up.

Got it, but, because I never play a thief it won't be very profitable. Murder and assassination on the other hand...

It will, promise. I keep an Alt parked in the Manor in Vulkhul Guard - plenty of trunks/cabinets/etc to loot - log in, run thru the building, by the time I'm back the containers have reset for a rinse & repeat. Made 20K in a couple of hours just by rotating thru alts until they hit the fencing limit.

For rookies and the guildless it's the best way to make fast cash - and you level Legerdemain while you're at it.

Makkir · June 2015

I flip guild stores now for an in game living. I've made over a million this month but I only get maybe 2 hours of playtime now a day. Gold really isn't hard to come by when you reach vr14. the harder part is spending it.

Lynx7386 · June 2015

Anyone who says gold is hard to come by is buying too much.

My first few characters on PC I leveled up to veteran rank, and they were always dirt poor... because I bought stuff.

I leveled a new dragonknight to 36, and by that level had accumulated over 40,000 gold. Never bought anything other than repairs, made myself gear (via one of those higher level alts, albeit) as I leveled, so on and so forth. That's not really even halfway through the leveling process.

What a lot of people, especially the newer players with console release, dont seem to understand is that gear does not make a huge impact in this game. Spending a thousand gold to upgrade from a level 14 sword to a level 16 sword is an absolute waste of money, the change in effectiveness is so negligible you wont even notice it.

NPC vendors in this game are experts at taking your money and giving you little to nothing in return. Never buy armor or weapons - if you cant get it through drops, collect material and either make it yourself or have it crafted by someone who wont charge you an arm and a leg for it. Dont buy a mount right off the bat, and if you do only get the 10,000g mount. The 45k mounts offer absolutely no advantage over that 10k mount in terms of effectiveness, only appearance differs. Better yet, if you have the cash, buy a mount from the crown store and save the ingame gold.

The next biggest culprit is respeccing: resetting your skill points at the shrine in your faction's capital city. Respeccing will almost never be worth doing at low levels, even if you think you really need to do it you probably dont. Wait until you get to higher levels and have enough points to actually make the respec worth the cost, and DO NOT respec every other day because you cant decide what you want to do with your character, figure it out first.

Sausage · June 2015

Many RPGs does it the same way, you need to pick up stuff and sell it. Its called GAMING.

Volkodav · June 2015

Ive tried selling stacks of mats on my guild,but only seem to get pennies back for the sell.I list one for,say 200 gold,and get 26 gold back.I never get much for the work. I dont know where else to sell them,or how to get an invite for another guild. And no,Im not a newbie.Just have never tried to get a different guild is all. :}

Robo_Hobo · June 2015

Those NPC merchants must make bank buying all the crud we sell for like 2-40 gold then turn around and sell it for 1k+

OzJohnD · June 2015

Gold earning was ruined in the latest patch .... I can't sell fake turkey legs anymore !

QuadroTony · June 2015

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Gold is hard at first to make legally. Much easier with trading, or being a careful burglar...

why burglar is illegal?

Corrupted_Soul · June 2015

1. Join a guild you can get store rights with
2. Sell every blue and green set item you get for reasonable prices (lower than you'd expect it to be worth.. you were only going to deconstruct it anyway)
3. Check nightstands/barrels/wardrobes as often as you can for recipes
4. Sell blue recipes/Motifs for 2.5k-10k each.

Corrupted_Soul · June 2015

QuadroTony wrote: »

actually gold is very easy to make if you farm auction house
ie buyout cheap items and re-sell it
example - 5m incom in one week

There's no Auction House on console. I assume that's what you're referring to. @DenMoria

QuadroTony · June 2015

Corrupted_Soul wrote: »

QuadroTony wrote: »

actually gold is very easy to make if you farm auction house
ie buyout cheap items and re-sell it
example - 5m incom in one week

There's no Auction House on console. I assume that's what you're referring to. @DenMoria

auction house = guilds and guild traders

on consoles the same features as on Pc
just without addons

TheShadowScout · June 2015

QuadroTony wrote: »

why burglar is illegal?

Because Justice!
...justice system, that is.
Which is what I meant... go burglar some inn or manor and earn good money, even at low levels... as long as you are careful not to get caught by the guards...

Milktray · June 2015

for DC, create a toon, go straight to Glenumbra, loot house you arrive in, steal everything from house across the street, goto bank steal everthing and deposit what you feel is useful into your bank space, goto fence, launder recipes, motif's etc .. sell rest to the fence.

Go back to bank, check out the guild stores, put recipes, motifs up for sale

Log out, make a cuppa, log in, do process again

ADarklore · June 2015

I still can't figure out how people are saying, "Early on, gold is hard to come by" when in fact, it is NOT... IF you put effort into earning it. The problem is, most players don't want to spend time in the game outside of questing, so they won't farm mats to sell at Guild Traders and thereby make tons of gold. Instead, they complain that gold is difficult because nobody is handing it to them... which is mainly because this is an MMO and grinding, including for currency, is expected.

I can earn thousands upon thousands of gold for just a few hours spent farming mats and selling them at one of the three Guild Traders I belong to. You just have to be diligent about finding a place that offers a variety of mats and develop a path to finding them. I did this exact thing in DCUO, farmed Exobits to sell to earn currency.

It is one thing for it to actually be difficult to earn in-game currency, and another for someone to say it is difficult, simply because they don't want to go through the efforts of doing it.

RoamingRiverElk · June 2015

Find out which plants are needed to make the most expensive potions in the game, then farm those plants and sell them, or level your Alchemy skill to 50 and farm and sell those potions.

GreySix · June 2015

ADarklore wrote: »

I still can't figure out how people are saying, "Early on, gold is hard to come by" when in fact, it is NOT... IF you put effort into earning it. The problem is, most players don't want to spend time in the game outside of questing, so they won't farm mats to sell at Guild Traders and thereby make tons of gold.

Covered that by stating, "Early in the game (Levels 1 through 30), gold seems to be scarce, unless you're an accomplished guild trader."

Milktray · June 2015

GreySix wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

I still can't figure out how people are saying, "Early on, gold is hard to come by" when in fact, it is NOT... IF you put effort into earning it. The problem is, most players don't want to spend time in the game outside of questing, so they won't farm mats to sell at Guild Traders and thereby make tons of gold.

Covered that by stating, "Early in the game (Levels 1 through 30), gold seems to be scarce, unless you're an accomplished guild trader."

It's dead simple, if they can be bothered to try

LIke i said, steal, launder, sell rest to fence
sell laundered goods on a guild store, not hard to do
Log out/in .. do again
Rinse & repeat, not best fun in the world but you make enough to keep yourself in bag/bank space etc easy

newtinmpls · June 2015

d3nbark3r wrote: »

I've already discussed this man, I have done this and got nothing from breaking down a legendary once already, wasn't going to risk it again. Would rather the 44 gold lol

Then sell it in a guild and someone who has leveled up the unravelling or metal extraction or wood extraction will pay more than 44 for it.

newtinmpls · June 2015

Corrupted_Soul wrote: »

4. Sell blue recipes/Motifs for 2.5k-10k each.

Blue recipies ... maybe. Blue motifs? I don't think that's likely. Highest I've seen was around 650 and it had been sitting there for 17 days.

400-500 is more likely (Oh. NA PC)

bertenburnyb16_ESO · June 2015

after a year I have over 2mill in gold and nothing to spend it on, and thats not even that much compared to other players
so no, gold is not hard to come by, it might seem so in the beginning only

DenMoria · June 2015

QuadroTony wrote: »

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Gold is hard at first to make legally. Much easier with trading, or being a careful burglar...

why burglar is illegal?

Uhm... because stealing is a crime? At least here it is. If it isn't where you're from, I'm moving.

DenMoria · June 2015

ADarklore wrote: »

I still can't figure out how people are saying, "Early on, gold is hard to come by" when in fact, it is NOT... IF you put effort into earning it. The problem is, most players don't want to spend time in the game outside of questing, so they won't farm mats to sell at Guild Traders and thereby make tons of gold. Instead, they complain that gold is difficult because nobody is handing it to them... which is mainly because this is an MMO and grinding, including for currency, is expected.

I can earn thousands upon thousands of gold for just a few hours spent farming mats and selling them at one of the three Guild Traders I belong to. You just have to be diligent about finding a place that offers a variety of mats and develop a path to finding them. I did this exact thing in DCUO, farmed Exobits to sell to earn currency.

It is one thing for it to actually be difficult to earn in-game currency, and another for someone to say it is difficult, simply because they don't want to go through the efforts of doing it.

As a newbie to this whole process, I find it very, very sad that, rather than play the game to enjoy the game, farming is obligatory? Where's the fun in that?

I agree that money is not terribly difficult to come buy (I actually meant large amounts). Since I won't be farming and I don't commit crimes (other than murder, of course - none of my characters ever steal), I'll just have to settle for being relatively poor. Fortunately, I'm not buying anything anyhow, so it's not a problem.

DenMoria · June 2015

Milktray wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

I still can't figure out how people are saying, "Early on, gold is hard to come by" when in fact, it is NOT... IF you put effort into earning it. The problem is, most players don't want to spend time in the game outside of questing, so they won't farm mats to sell at Guild Traders and thereby make tons of gold.

Covered that by stating, "Early in the game (Levels 1 through 30), gold seems to be scarce, unless you're an accomplished guild trader."

It's dead simple, if they can be bothered to try

LIke i said, steal, launder, sell rest to fence
sell laundered goods on a guild store, not hard to do
Log out/in .. do again
Rinse & repeat, not best fun in the world but you make enough to keep yourself in bag/bank space etc easy

Yes. Easy if you want to be a thief. Not gonna do it. I am not a thief. I've played RPG's for almost 20 years now and NEVER played a thief. Never. It's just me.

Illegal activities are a choice, not an obligation.

I'll just have to settle for being poor.

Robbmrp · June 2015

DenMoria wrote: »

Milktray wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

I still can't figure out how people are saying, "Early on, gold is hard to come by" when in fact, it is NOT... IF you put effort into earning it. The problem is, most players don't want to spend time in the game outside of questing, so they won't farm mats to sell at Guild Traders and thereby make tons of gold.

Covered that by stating, "Early in the game (Levels 1 through 30), gold seems to be scarce, unless you're an accomplished guild trader."

It's dead simple, if they can be bothered to try

LIke i said, steal, launder, sell rest to fence
sell laundered goods on a guild store, not hard to do
Log out/in .. do again
Rinse & repeat, not best fun in the world but you make enough to keep yourself in bag/bank space etc easy

Yes. Easy if you want to be a thief. Not gonna do it. I am not a thief. I've played RPG's for almost 20 years now and NEVER played a thief. Never. It's just me.

Illegal activities are a choice, not an obligation.

I'll just have to settle for being poor.

Making gold in this game is a choice. You can choose to be poor or you can choose to use the advice that many people have provided for you here in which case you'll be fine. Your running around doing quests so you might as well gather resources while your there. Pick up everything and sell it. You seriously won't be poor, unless your just lazy.......

Nestor · June 2015

DenMoria wrote: »

Sheesh guys. Maybe I'll just settle for being poor and not being able to carry anything. It seems like so much work to be rich! That's so unAmerican! At least, once I build this one up, my alt will be a legacy and start off with lotsa mula and stuff.

I will tell you that my first two characters were broke. Not broke in that they could not afford the basics, but none of the good stuff. They were deconning every thing, learning traits and spending skill points on crafting, building up the bank and personal bag space and leveling a horse. They never had much money, I think I amassed about 20K after all was said and done and they became proficient crafters (max level, 6 traits known at the time, now they know 8 going on 9).

However the two characters that came after? They were rolling in the dough as all they had to was vendor stuff. My crafters made them gear that made them deadly. I mean, you put a set of Blues on a L4, nothing in the game is going to stay alive at that level.

So, think of your first character or two as the parents who immigrated to this country, worked hard, skimped and saved so their children could go to college and get a good paying job. Then think of your second, third and so on characters as the children who benifit from parents hard work.