finding the guild stores is annoying!!

orangeberry4 · October 2014

im kinda happy they have something of a buying system with other players i.e guild stores, buts they are in the most random places for other character not in the guild to find. just have an open list of all the guild with stores and where they can be found.

nerevarine1138 · October 2014

Are you talking about finding where a particular guild has set up shop? Or finding the regional guild store location? Because the latter is always marked on the map.

For the former, if you're looking for a specific guild's store location, it's the responsibility of guild leaders to publicize that information on their sites.

orangeberry4 · October 2014

yea I guess I was talking about not being to find a specific guild store that's all I would love to have a menu that keeps track off all the stores that I visited or something to that nature.

nerevarine1138 · October 2014

orangeberry4 wrote: »

yea I guess I was talking about not being to find a specific guild store that's all I would love to have a menu that keeps track off all the stores that I visited or something to that nature.

I don't know that a list like that would be too helpful, since the stores you visit will change owners from week to week. I could see maybe changing the map icons to display guild names, but any other kind of list would be pretty hard to navigate.

orangeberry4 · October 2014

mmm yea maybe its no point then ugg sad face.

bedlom · October 2014

Na I am really starting to like what they have done here with the auction, I didn't get it at first but now I love em and think it's nice to see some originality.

Blooddancer · October 2014

I only go to guild stores in the areas where I park my characters which is where there is a wayshrine, bank and craft stations close together.

Be hand if they had somewhere central where you could access each of the guild stores instead of having to find them... oh wait that would be an Auction House... well I never.

Gillysan · October 2014

Doesn't take all that long to wayshrine around. However, I feel sorry for the traders not in the main cities. It gives the whole map a little atmosphere but it would have been better to put them all in the main city.

Rosveen · October 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

orangeberry4 wrote: »

yea I guess I was talking about not being to find a specific guild store that's all I would love to have a menu that keeps track off all the stores that I visited or something to that nature.

I don't know that a list like that would be too helpful, since the stores you visit will change owners from week to week. I could see maybe changing the map icons to display guild names, but any other kind of list would be pretty hard to navigate.

Not really. The list wouldn't track your own interactions with stores, but rather be a server-wide information about stores and their owners, automatically updating every week after winning bids. It would be long, but just sort it alphabetically and you could quickly find the name of the guild you're interested in.

Enodoc · October 2014

Gillysan wrote: »

Doesn't take all that long to wayshrine around. However, I feel sorry for the traders not in the main cities. It gives the whole map a little atmosphere but it would have been better to put them all in the main city.

Even then, most of the traders not in cities are quite near wayshrines anyway.

I think a central, server-wide list would work. You could have the option of sorting by "Guild Name", "Trader Name", or "Location", as well as filtering out by Zone or the guild's Alliance affiliation. Location would name the Guild Kiosk the trader is located at, as well as the Zone or Settlement the Kiosk is in.

Example, sorted by Guild Name [the default] (apologies to any guilds whose names I use at random):
[Alliance Icon] Guild Name -- Guild Trader -- Location
[AD] AwesomeGuild -- Fred the Trader -- Sentinel (Alik'r Desert), The Crown's Coster
[EP] Dragonstar Trading -- Nishani-la -- Coldharbour, Cart of Contempt
[EP] East Empire Company -- Melisi Tavrel -- Mournhold (Deshaan), Mourner's Market
[DC] Imperial Trades -- Walks-In-Leaves -- Elden Root (Grahtwood), Trunkshade Traders
[AD] Market Guild -- Panersewen -- Auridon, North Road Exchange
[EP] UESP -- Telvon Arobar -- Deshaan, Arobar's Arch
[DC] Vincimus Thronum -- Emuin -- Stormhold (Rivenspire), The Stormhold Exchange

Guild Kiosk names should also be put on the map, as all other vendor icons have store names on the map, instead of just calling them all "Guild Traders".

Rosveen · October 2014

Enodoc wrote: »

Gillysan wrote: »

Doesn't take all that long to wayshrine around. However, I feel sorry for the traders not in the main cities. It gives the whole map a little atmosphere but it would have been better to put them all in the main city.

I think a central, server-wide list would work. You could have the option of sorting by "Guild Name", "Trader Name", or "Location", as well as filtering out by Zone or the guild's Alliance affiliation. Location would name the Guild Kiosk the trader is located at, as well as the Zone or Settlement the Kiosk is in.

Looking at the guild store interface, I don't think ZOS can handle so many filters... Maybe let's just keep it at guild name and location to be safe.

eventide03b14a_ESO · October 2014

It's great that they have these vendors but I would gladly pay a premium to go to a single broker and buy what I want without traveling anywhere. I'm pretty sure there are others that agree with that.

Nestor · October 2014

The Guild Store locations are listed in the game, if you are a member of the Guild that has a Kiosk for that week. You can see it in the Guild Information window.

So, it could be compiled into a list somewhere and made available.

TehMagnus · October 2014

Agreed, pushing M to open map and then looking at it is so annoying and frustrating, we should have a minimap to do this more easily.

purple-magicb16_ESO · October 2014

Guild stores are usually located near wayshrines. If you're looking for a specific guild store, you're out of luck. They change locations from time to time as other guilds bid on prime locations. So you may find a guild store you like but then have it move on you. I agree that there should be an updated listing somewhere (maybe an option as you begin using the wayshrine) outlining what guilds are where.

SkinnyDG · June 2015

There are guild stores not in cities??

Akavir_Sentinel · June 2015

SkinnyDG wrote: »

There are guild stores not in cities??

Yes, there are guild vendors located out in the wild not even remotely close to a city.

Hagbard_OM · June 2015

Well, if you just want a listing of the kiosks and their locations, you can use this.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18GhyzmBbDl_h4IAweuxjrM04wF0DrvXSY-nS0sE3y1g/edit?usp=sharing

I do a weekly update of the guild locations (PC, NA server). If you're on a different server, you may still find it useful just as a location listing. Most zones have 5 traders spots in one town in the zone, 2 "outpost" spots near wilderness wayshrines, and 1 location inside of the Outlaw's Refuge for that zone. The Capital Cities (Elden Root, Mournhold, & Wayrest) have 7 trader spots instead of 5, and The Hollow City (for some reason) only has 4. Not counting Cyrodiil, there are 146 trader locales in the game.

The above document is discussed in the following thread (I also post updates there).

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/164068/guild-trader-information-na-server/p1

I hope it's helpful.

bertenburnyb16_ESO · June 2015

theres always a couple concentrated in towns, and they're marked on the map

coryevans_3b14_ESO · June 2015

orangeberry4 wrote: »

im kinda happy they have something of a buying system with other players i.e guild stores, buts they are in the most random places for other character not in the guild to find. just have an open list of all the guild with stores and where they can be found.

Your capital city has the most in one centralized location. The other is Craglorn. That is, the capital city for your faction.

Merkabeh · June 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

Gillysan wrote: »

Doesn't take all that long to wayshrine around. However, I feel sorry for the traders not in the main cities. It gives the whole map a little atmosphere but it would have been better to put them all in the main city.

Even then, most of the traders not in cities are quite near wayshrines anyway.

I think a central, server-wide list would work. You could have the option of sorting by "Guild Name", "Trader Name", or "Location", as well as filtering out by Zone or the guild's Alliance affiliation. Location would name the Guild Kiosk the trader is located at, as well as the Zone or Settlement the Kiosk is in.

Example, sorted by Guild Name [the default] (apologies to any guilds whose names I use at random):
[Alliance Icon] Guild Name -- Guild Trader -- Location
[AD] AwesomeGuild -- Fred the Trader -- Sentinel (Alik'r Desert), The Crown's Coster
[EP] Dragonstar Trading -- Nishani-la -- Coldharbour, Cart of Contempt
[EP] East Empire Company -- Melisi Tavrel -- Mournhold (Deshaan), Mourner's Market
[DC] Imperial Trades -- Walks-In-Leaves -- Elden Root (Grahtwood), Trunkshade Traders
[AD] Market Guild -- Panersewen -- Auridon, North Road Exchange
[EP] UESP -- Telvon Arobar -- Deshaan, Arobar's Arch
[DC] Vincimus Thronum -- Emuin -- Stormhold (Rivenspire), The Stormhold Exchange

Guild Kiosk names should also be put on the map, as all other vendor icons have store names on the map, instead of just calling them all "Guild Traders".

This makes way way way too much sense to actually make it into the game.

Not to mention you will be ruining someones 'mersion...

Enodoc · June 2015

Merkabeh wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Gillysan wrote: »

Doesn't take all that long to wayshrine around. However, I feel sorry for the traders not in the main cities. It gives the whole map a little atmosphere but it would have been better to put them all in the main city.

Even then, most of the traders not in cities are quite near wayshrines anyway.

I think a central, server-wide list would work. You could have the option of sorting by "Guild Name", "Trader Name", or "Location", as well as filtering out by Zone or the guild's Alliance affiliation. Location would name the Guild Kiosk the trader is located at, as well as the Zone or Settlement the Kiosk is in.

Example, sorted by Guild Name [the default] (apologies to any guilds whose names I use at random):
[Alliance Icon] Guild Name -- Guild Trader -- Location
[AD] AwesomeGuild -- Fred the Trader -- Sentinel (Alik'r Desert), The Crown's Coster
[EP] Dragonstar Trading -- Nishani-la -- Coldharbour, Cart of Contempt
[EP] East Empire Company -- Melisi Tavrel -- Mournhold (Deshaan), Mourner's Market
[DC] Imperial Trades -- Walks-In-Leaves -- Elden Root (Grahtwood), Trunkshade Traders
[AD] Market Guild -- Panersewen -- Auridon, North Road Exchange
[EP] UESP -- Telvon Arobar -- Deshaan, Arobar's Arch
[DC] Vincimus Thronum -- Emuin -- Stormhold (Rivenspire), The Stormhold Exchange

Guild Kiosk names should also be put on the map, as all other vendor icons have store names on the map, instead of just calling them all "Guild Traders".

This makes way way way too much sense to actually make it into the game.

Not to mention you will be ruining someones 'mersion...

You're throwing the immersion argument in now at a comment I made in October? If you must, I guess. Anyway, such a system could be introduced in a way that's entirely "immersive". All Guild Traders in the game are members of the same faction; I think it's the Gold Coast Trading Company. All you would need to do is put in the Company's manager as an NPC and ask to see his ledger for the week. Voila, a list of all Guild Traders in his employ, who they are hired out to, and where their Kiosk is located.

Drakk89815 · June 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

Merkabeh wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Gillysan wrote: »

Doesn't take all that long to wayshrine around. However, I feel sorry for the traders not in the main cities. It gives the whole map a little atmosphere but it would have been better to put them all in the main city.

Even then, most of the traders not in cities are quite near wayshrines anyway.

I think a central, server-wide list would work. You could have the option of sorting by "Guild Name", "Trader Name", or "Location", as well as filtering out by Zone or the guild's Alliance affiliation. Location would name the Guild Kiosk the trader is located at, as well as the Zone or Settlement the Kiosk is in.

Example, sorted by Guild Name [the default] (apologies to any guilds whose names I use at random):
[Alliance Icon] Guild Name -- Guild Trader -- Location
[AD] AwesomeGuild -- Fred the Trader -- Sentinel (Alik'r Desert), The Crown's Coster
[EP] Dragonstar Trading -- Nishani-la -- Coldharbour, Cart of Contempt
[EP] East Empire Company -- Melisi Tavrel -- Mournhold (Deshaan), Mourner's Market
[DC] Imperial Trades -- Walks-In-Leaves -- Elden Root (Grahtwood), Trunkshade Traders
[AD] Market Guild -- Panersewen -- Auridon, North Road Exchange
[EP] UESP -- Telvon Arobar -- Deshaan, Arobar's Arch
[DC] Vincimus Thronum -- Emuin -- Stormhold (Rivenspire), The Stormhold Exchange

Guild Kiosk names should also be put on the map, as all other vendor icons have store names on the map, instead of just calling them all "Guild Traders".

This makes way way way too much sense to actually make it into the game.

Not to mention you will be ruining someones 'mersion...

You're throwing the immersion argument in now at a comment I made in October? If you must, I guess. Anyway, such a system could be introduced in a way that's entirely "immersive". All Guild Traders in the game are members of the same faction; I think it's the Gold Coast Trading Company. All you would need to do is put in the Company's manager as an NPC and ask to see his ledger for the week. Voila, a list of all Guild Traders in his employ, who they are hired out to, and where their Kiosk is located.

I think he was being sarcastic.......

Enodoc · June 2015

Drakk89815 wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Merkabeh wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Gillysan wrote: »

Doesn't take all that long to wayshrine around. However, I feel sorry for the traders not in the main cities. It gives the whole map a little atmosphere but it would have been better to put them all in the main city.

Even then, most of the traders not in cities are quite near wayshrines anyway.

I think a central, server-wide list would work. You could have the option of sorting by "Guild Name", "Trader Name", or "Location", as well as filtering out by Zone or the guild's Alliance affiliation. Location would name the Guild Kiosk the trader is located at, as well as the Zone or Settlement the Kiosk is in.

Example, sorted by Guild Name [the default] (apologies to any guilds whose names I use at random):
[Alliance Icon] Guild Name -- Guild Trader -- Location
[AD] AwesomeGuild -- Fred the Trader -- Sentinel (Alik'r Desert), The Crown's Coster
[EP] Dragonstar Trading -- Nishani-la -- Coldharbour, Cart of Contempt
[EP] East Empire Company -- Melisi Tavrel -- Mournhold (Deshaan), Mourner's Market
[DC] Imperial Trades -- Walks-In-Leaves -- Elden Root (Grahtwood), Trunkshade Traders
[AD] Market Guild -- Panersewen -- Auridon, North Road Exchange
[EP] UESP -- Telvon Arobar -- Deshaan, Arobar's Arch
[DC] Vincimus Thronum -- Emuin -- Stormhold (Rivenspire), The Stormhold Exchange

Guild Kiosk names should also be put on the map, as all other vendor icons have store names on the map, instead of just calling them all "Guild Traders".

This makes way way way too much sense to actually make it into the game.

Not to mention you will be ruining someones 'mersion...

You're throwing the immersion argument in now at a comment I made in October? If you must, I guess. Anyway, such a system could be introduced in a way that's entirely "immersive". All Guild Traders in the game are members of the same faction; I think it's the Gold Coast Trading Company. All you would need to do is put in the Company's manager as an NPC and ask to see his ledger for the week. Voila, a list of all Guild Traders in his employ, who they are hired out to, and where their Kiosk is located.

I think he was being sarcastic.......

Maybe so, as that seems to be "the reason" players give every time for ZOS not doing something that would assist gameplay by adding to the UI. In this instance however, the immersion argument does not stand as it could easily be an in-world system. (Buff trackers, on the other hand, are harder to justify immersively.)

Merkabeh · June 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

Drakk89815 wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Merkabeh wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Gillysan wrote: »

Doesn't take all that long to wayshrine around. However, I feel sorry for the traders not in the main cities. It gives the whole map a little atmosphere but it would have been better to put them all in the main city.

Even then, most of the traders not in cities are quite near wayshrines anyway.

I think a central, server-wide list would work. You could have the option of sorting by "Guild Name", "Trader Name", or "Location", as well as filtering out by Zone or the guild's Alliance affiliation. Location would name the Guild Kiosk the trader is located at, as well as the Zone or Settlement the Kiosk is in.

Example, sorted by Guild Name [the default] (apologies to any guilds whose names I use at random):
[Alliance Icon] Guild Name -- Guild Trader -- Location
[AD] AwesomeGuild -- Fred the Trader -- Sentinel (Alik'r Desert), The Crown's Coster
[EP] Dragonstar Trading -- Nishani-la -- Coldharbour, Cart of Contempt
[EP] East Empire Company -- Melisi Tavrel -- Mournhold (Deshaan), Mourner's Market
[DC] Imperial Trades -- Walks-In-Leaves -- Elden Root (Grahtwood), Trunkshade Traders
[AD] Market Guild -- Panersewen -- Auridon, North Road Exchange
[EP] UESP -- Telvon Arobar -- Deshaan, Arobar's Arch
[DC] Vincimus Thronum -- Emuin -- Stormhold (Rivenspire), The Stormhold Exchange

Guild Kiosk names should also be put on the map, as all other vendor icons have store names on the map, instead of just calling them all "Guild Traders".

This makes way way way too much sense to actually make it into the game.

Not to mention you will be ruining someones 'mersion...

You're throwing the immersion argument in now at a comment I made in October? If you must, I guess. Anyway, such a system could be introduced in a way that's entirely "immersive". All Guild Traders in the game are members of the same faction; I think it's the Gold Coast Trading Company. All you would need to do is put in the Company's manager as an NPC and ask to see his ledger for the week. Voila, a list of all Guild Traders in his employ, who they are hired out to, and where their Kiosk is located.

I think he was being sarcastic.......

Maybe so, as that seems to be "the reason" players give every time for ZOS not doing something that would assist gameplay by adding to the UI. In this instance however, the immersion argument does not stand as it could easily be an in-world system. (Buff trackers, on the other hand, are harder to justify immersively.)

Please just read my signature...that should make it obvious...

Enodoc · June 2015

Merkabeh wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Drakk89815 wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Merkabeh wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Gillysan wrote: »

Doesn't take all that long to wayshrine around. However, I feel sorry for the traders not in the main cities. It gives the whole map a little atmosphere but it would have been better to put them all in the main city.

Even then, most of the traders not in cities are quite near wayshrines anyway.

I think a central, server-wide list would work. You could have the option of sorting by "Guild Name", "Trader Name", or "Location", as well as filtering out by Zone or the guild's Alliance affiliation. Location would name the Guild Kiosk the trader is located at, as well as the Zone or Settlement the Kiosk is in.

Example, sorted by Guild Name [the default] (apologies to any guilds whose names I use at random):
[Alliance Icon] Guild Name -- Guild Trader -- Location
[AD] AwesomeGuild -- Fred the Trader -- Sentinel (Alik'r Desert), The Crown's Coster
[EP] Dragonstar Trading -- Nishani-la -- Coldharbour, Cart of Contempt
[EP] East Empire Company -- Melisi Tavrel -- Mournhold (Deshaan), Mourner's Market
[DC] Imperial Trades -- Walks-In-Leaves -- Elden Root (Grahtwood), Trunkshade Traders
[AD] Market Guild -- Panersewen -- Auridon, North Road Exchange
[EP] UESP -- Telvon Arobar -- Deshaan, Arobar's Arch
[DC] Vincimus Thronum -- Emuin -- Stormhold (Rivenspire), The Stormhold Exchange

Guild Kiosk names should also be put on the map, as all other vendor icons have store names on the map, instead of just calling them all "Guild Traders".

This makes way way way too much sense to actually make it into the game.

Not to mention you will be ruining someones 'mersion...

You're throwing the immersion argument in now at a comment I made in October? If you must, I guess. Anyway, such a system could be introduced in a way that's entirely "immersive". All Guild Traders in the game are members of the same faction; I think it's the Gold Coast Trading Company. All you would need to do is put in the Company's manager as an NPC and ask to see his ledger for the week. Voila, a list of all Guild Traders in his employ, who they are hired out to, and where their Kiosk is located.

I think he was being sarcastic.......

Maybe so, as that seems to be "the reason" players give every time for ZOS not doing something that would assist gameplay by adding to the UI. In this instance however, the immersion argument does not stand as it could easily be an in-world system. (Buff trackers, on the other hand, are harder to justify immersively.)

Please just read my signature...that should make it obvious...

I did. And that argument really grates in the instances when it's entirely unfounded. But if someone came here with that sincere opinion, or if ZOS were looking for a way to implement it in an immersive way, I have given a suggestion.

Gandrhulf_Harbard · June 2015

And the chances are if you do find the guild store you want they'll not have what you want to buy.

I've tried over 50 times to use the guild kiosks to buy things; I have found what I was looking for just twice. And in both cases I had to travel half way around the world to find it.

The system is broken, its not fit for purpose, and the minority who defend it are the same minority who exclusively benefit from it.

All The Best

ADarklore · June 2015

Sadly too, those Guild Stores that are out in the middle of nowhere tend not to have anything worth buying anyway. Usually those in a city are where the most sales generate and tend to attract the most sellers. Thus I tend to browse my three Guild Traders and if they don't have what I want, being in the AD, I hit Skywatch and Elden Root... both have several GT's right next to each other- makes browsing much easier that way.

If they don't want to have an "Auction House", then it would be nice if they could at least have a centralized 'search' which would browse ALL GT's in your alliance and then tell you which one was selling the item you were looking for- so you didn't have to Wayshrine all over trying to find it. Like others, I too have gone all around looking for specific items only to never fine it; would have saved so much time to have had a global search tell me it just wasn't available.

Sausage · June 2015

They are meant to be surprise, you see GAH, you get excited and want to see whats in it, every GAH is different. Sure the game wasnt designed with GAH so it kinda lacks but I think thats one great reason why GAH are so awesome. You only need couple good trade guilds and you are good, people stress way too much over Auction houses etc, there isnt that much to buy honestly, one crafter who make you food and potions, one crafter who can craft some sets for you.

Cernow · June 2015

Personally I don't agree with the resistance to an Auction House. However, this is the design decision they've made and we have to work with it. But this doesn't mean that we have to accept the current guild vendor system 'as is' without seeking to improve it. The current system is broken and utterly tedious and frustrating to use.

At bare minimum there needs to be a centralised search service. I don't mind putting in the legwork to actually go and physically buy the item I want. But I totally resent the huge and pointless waste of my time trailing from vendor to vendor, hub to hub, entering the same search terms into every wretched vendor, usually without success. It's a truly horrible and tedious gameplay experience. I can't believe the devs can honestly put their hands on their hearts and say they are proud of the system as it currently stands, not unless their goal is to needlessly and pointlessly waste players time.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · June 2015

Guild stores are not auctions. Auctions you bid on things. These are stores where you buy things for a set price.